Children and Religion

Falsey wrote:Ill state again, Im finding this deeply offensive.

Rise above mate. Those banana splits are going to hell in a hand cart and MCN will be pushing it. All aboard the Agnostic Express!

Falsey wrote:

MCN wrote:

Falsey wrote:Ill state again, Im finding this deeply offensive.

Then I pity you.

And I pity your lack of tolerance or compassion for other peoples beliefs.

If you want to believe in a big magic man who creates worlds out of nothing in 6 days, then all power to you. Don't me to take you seriously though. Because it's strawberry floating bullshit.

I bet Heaven is cold in winter. Hell won't seem that bad then, will it?

MCN wrote:

Falsey wrote:

MCN wrote:

Falsey wrote:Ill state again, Im finding this deeply offensive.

Then I pity you.

And I pity your lack of tolerance or compassion for other peoples beliefs.

If you want to believe in a big magic man who creates worlds out of nothing in 6 days, then all power to you. Don't me to take you seriously though. Because it's strawberry floating bullshit.

Such a religi-troll.

Vesp wrote:I bet Heaven is cold in winter. Hell won't seem that bad then, will it?

No it's like that perfect temperature all year round. About 24 degrees with a nice breeze.

I'll support you in most things, Neil, but on this occasion you are actually being needlessly harsh and beligerant. Stop it, please?

Red Devil wrote:

Vesp wrote:I bet Heaven is cold in winter. Hell won't seem that bad then, will it?

No it's like that perfect temperature all year round. About 24 degrees with a nice breeze.

Good job it isn't real

MCN wrote:

Falsey wrote:

MCN wrote:

Falsey wrote:Ill state again, Im finding this deeply offensive.

Then I pity you.

And I pity your lack of tolerance or compassion for other peoples beliefs.

If you want to believe in a big magic man who creates worlds out of nothing in 6 days, then all power to you. Don't me to take you seriously though. Because it's strawberry floating bullshit.

Honestly, I didnt think I was a believer, But apparantly I am.

Firstly, I dont believe there is a magic man. I believe there may be something bigger than me at work out there.

I dont believe he creates worlds out of nothing in 6 days.

And I pray for your sake that it isnt bullshit. So that perhaps, one day, you get to meet you maker and realise what a dick you are.

I don't see what's offensive about this...

...honestly.

You need thicker skin.

The problem with telling children these kind of things is that they are very gullible and also they are very trusting of people who they have either grown up with or see as in a position of authority, for example a teacher or even a priest. A child sees that lots of people are listening to someone old speak for a long time and they will naturally believe that every word he says is true.

Falsey wrote:And I pray for your sake that it isnt bullshit. So that perhaps, one day, you get to meet you maker and realise what a dick you are.

I'm afraid moaning that people are hurting your feelings by disrespecting a laughable ceremony held in church and then saying this kind of thing completely discredits you. Get over yourself and realise that people have opinions that will offend you and you have no right to silence them.

You know what bro, I dont need thicker skin.

I think its pretty unfair that such a major moment in my life is being belittled and ridiculed.

Falsey wrote:You know what bro, I dont need thicker skin.

I think its pretty unfair that such a major moment in my life is being belittled and ridiculed.

Are you catholic?

Trinity wrote:

Falsey wrote:You know what bro, I dont need thicker skin.

I think its pretty unfair that such a major moment in my life is being belittled and ridiculed.

Are you catholic?

Christian.

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

Memento Mori wrote:

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

I think you're the first person ever to imply that I'm not quite militant enough.

Memento Mori wrote:

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

But its not a fact, There is nothing, anywhere, that proves this.

Falsey wrote:

Memento Mori wrote:

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

But its not a fact, There is nothing, anywhere, that proves this.

Is there any proof unicorns exist? As there isn't I think it's safe to assume they don't.

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

That's all well and good, but when you're 6 year old kid comes up to you and asks where everything came from, are you really going to say 'well son, there are two schools of thought; one says that God made everything. Christians, Jews and Muslims believe this. The other says that the universe resulted from a giant explosion, and over billions of years the Earth and everything on it got to the point it's at now through a process known as evolution.

Feel free to believe which ever one you want.'

No, you wouldn't do that to a 6 year old child. [Okay, edit time. You being MCN, you'll probably say that you would, just to be argumentative. Whatever.]

I was brought up in a Jewish house, albeit not a very strict one in recent years.. I was circumcised, I had a bar mitzvah. I went to Jewish sunday school for a few years as well, but we started celebrating Christmas instead of Hanukkah when I got to about 10 years old.. I think it was so I didn't left out at Christmas time. What I do with my kids will entirely depend on who I have them with. I'll make sure my children are made aware of their Jewish heritage and what they've endured, but considering I'm not particularly observant myself, I don't think I could enforce it on them.

Also, strawberry float you Vesp, ya schmuck.

Falsey wrote:

Memento Mori wrote:

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

But its not a fact, There is nothing, anywhere, that proves this.

That works the other way around, too.

There are very few actual facts in science. There are a load of theories (but beware of the terminology here, as it means a very different thing in a scientific context) that are constantly revised as more evidence for and against comes to light.

To that end, there is a hell of a lot of evidence against the biblical version of events, and pretty much nothing for it. Until more evidence comes to light, then the accepted scientific theory (NOT hypothesis, which is what people often think theory means) is that God does not exist, and certainly not in any form described in religious texts.

Memento Mori wrote:

Falsey wrote:

Memento Mori wrote:

MCN wrote:The way I see it,if I were to force my children down the atheism route, then I would be as bad as those who force their children into religion. For me, it is all about the freedom of choice.

I disagree. If my kid asks me do unicorns exist I'm going to say no, same with god. You're not forcing kids to be atheist, just stating the facts.

But its not a fact, There is nothing, anywhere, that proves this.

Is there any proof unicorns exist? As there isn't I think it's safe to assume they don't.

So you can say to the child 'I dont think Unicorns exist' and 'I dont think god exists'