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Re: Space! An infinite universe of possibilities

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 5:48 pm
by Sprouty
Carlos wrote:
Ironhide wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:There has to be life clinging to a rock going round one of those stars, just has to be.


Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.


If there's other life out there, which I'm assuming there is given the incomprehensible number of stars in one galaxy alone, the odds of any two civilizations advanced enough to develop interstellar travel meeting each other are almost non existent.

I imagine most miss each other by millions of years.


The other option is the galaxy is teeming with life, uses a much more efficient way of communicating than radio and has Earth segregated off in some sort of planetary preserve like the the tribes in the Amazon because we are deemed both primitive and stupid.

Crop circles are just some sort of extraterrestrial NTV where we wonder what they are and the aliens are all peeing themselves with laughter at the sight.


Radio waves travel at the speed of light, so we may never find a more efficient technology for it's purpose. Effectively, we need technology which disproves E = MC squared to do any better, or find a different solution of traveling from A to B through space.

If I were to place a bet, if a solition is possible, it would be through use of quantum entanglement.

Re: Space! An infinite universe of possibilities

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:01 pm
by SEP
Sprouty wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Ironhide wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:There has to be life clinging to a rock going round one of those stars, just has to be.


Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.


If there's other life out there, which I'm assuming there is given the incomprehensible number of stars in one galaxy alone, the odds of any two civilizations advanced enough to develop interstellar travel meeting each other are almost non existent.

I imagine most miss each other by millions of years.


The other option is the galaxy is teeming with life, uses a much more efficient way of communicating than radio and has Earth segregated off in some sort of planetary preserve like the the tribes in the Amazon because we are deemed both primitive and stupid.

Crop circles are just some sort of extraterrestrial NTV where we wonder what they are and the aliens are all peeing themselves with laughter at the sight.


Radio waves travel at the speed of light, so we may never find a more efficient technology for it's purpose. Effectively, we need technology which disproves E = MC squared to do any better, or find a different solution of traveling from A to B through space.

If I were to place a bet, if a solition is possible, it would be through use of quantum entanglement.


It's all about that subspace.

Re: Space! An infinite universe of possibilities

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:09 pm
by Imrahil
Sprouty wrote:Radio waves travel at the speed of light, so we may never find a more efficient technology for it's purpose. Effectively, we need technology which disproves E = MC squared to do any better, or find a different solution of traveling from A to B through space.

If I were to place a bet, if a solition is possible, it would be through use of quantum entanglement.

I think there's so much we don't know about the fabric of the universe. Plus we still see things from a purely physical point of view ('getting from A to B'). For all we know, advanced beings can propel their consciousnesses through means that are beyond our comprehension - so there would be no need to travel from one side of the universe to the other, since they're already there.

Perhaps physical beings from different civilisations are never meant to meet each other inside a universe. It could be they meet and learn from each other after they've moved beyond that stage.

Re: Space! An infinite universe of possibilities

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2023 6:12 pm
by Moggy
Sprouty wrote:
Carlos wrote:
Ironhide wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Preezy wrote:There has to be life clinging to a rock going round one of those stars, just has to be.


Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.


If there's other life out there, which I'm assuming there is given the incomprehensible number of stars in one galaxy alone, the odds of any two civilizations advanced enough to develop interstellar travel meeting each other are almost non existent.

I imagine most miss each other by millions of years.


The other option is the galaxy is teeming with life, uses a much more efficient way of communicating than radio and has Earth segregated off in some sort of planetary preserve like the the tribes in the Amazon because we are deemed both primitive and stupid.

Crop circles are just some sort of extraterrestrial NTV where we wonder what they are and the aliens are all peeing themselves with laughter at the sight.


Radio waves travel at the speed of light, so we may never find a more efficient technology for it's purpose. Effectively, we need technology which disproves E = MC squared to do any better, or find a different solution of traveling from A to B through space.

If I were to place a bet, if a solition is possible, it would be through use of quantum entanglement.


We'll probably never break the speed of light. But I'm sure the most intelligent people around in the year 1023 would have said travelling at 1,000mph was impossible.

Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:19 pm
by rinks
Huge collective sigh of relief as Voyager 2 is back under control.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-66408851

Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 12:54 pm
by Jenuall
site23 wrote:Sorry for taking a joke post too seriously. But if there were aliens advanced enough to observe us, and empathetic enough to want to observe us, then I don't think they would find our situation funny. I think they would recognise that this planet has eight billion ordinary people living on it who bear no direct responsibility for the terrible decisions being made by corporations and governments, yet have to bear the suffering those decisions entail.

Also, I don't think it's right to describe tribal peoples living in Amazon reserves as "primitive and stupid". They are not worse people than us, they just have a different culture.

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Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:43 pm
by Vermilion
Jenuall wrote:
site23 wrote:Sorry for taking a joke post too seriously. But if there were aliens advanced enough to observe us, and empathetic enough to want to observe us, then I don't think they would find our situation funny. I think they would recognise that this planet has eight billion ordinary people living on it who bear no direct responsibility for the terrible decisions being made by corporations and governments, yet have to bear the suffering those decisions entail.

Also, I don't think it's right to describe tribal peoples living in Amazon reserves as "primitive and stupid". They are not worse people than us, they just have a different culture.

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So what you're saying Jen, is that you're an intergalactic puss filled cold sore?

Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 10:27 am
by Jenuall
Vermilion wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
site23 wrote:Sorry for taking a joke post too seriously. But if there were aliens advanced enough to observe us, and empathetic enough to want to observe us, then I don't think they would find our situation funny. I think they would recognise that this planet has eight billion ordinary people living on it who bear no direct responsibility for the terrible decisions being made by corporations and governments, yet have to bear the suffering those decisions entail.

Also, I don't think it's right to describe tribal peoples living in Amazon reserves as "primitive and stupid". They are not worse people than us, they just have a different culture.

Image


So what you're saying Jen, is that you're an intergalactic puss filled cold sore?

At last Vermi we agree on something!

Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:24 pm
by Moggy

twitter.com/natgeo/status/1689339511212314624



I think aliens knew we'd be looking that way and decided to ask us "what the strawberry float are you idiots doing?"

Re: Space! NASA announce loss of Voyager 2

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:44 am
by Octoroc
It would be depressing if the aliens started using emoticons.

Re: Space! Giant red question mark spotted by JW Telescope

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:42 pm
by Sprouty
That image is incredible! Seems likely it's two galaxies colliding, but its fun to ask questions.

Re: Space! Giant red question mark spotted by JW Telescope

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:04 pm
by Preezy
It's the great reset button, we'll get there eventually.

Re: Space! Giant red question mark spotted by JW Telescope

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:44 pm
by Knoyleo
Universal help tooltip

Re: Space! Giant red question mark spotted by JW Telescope

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:39 am
by rinks
Russia continues to use every opportunity to be a twat.


Russia's Luna-25 spacecraft has crashed into the Moon after spinning out of control, officials say.

The unmanned craft was due to make a soft landing on the Moon's south pole, but failed after encountering problems as it moved into its pre-landing orbit.

It was Russia's first Moon mission in almost 50 years.

The spacecraft was scheduled to land on Monday to explore a part of the Moon which scientists think could hold frozen water and precious elements.

Roscosmos, Russia's state space corporation, said on Sunday morning that it had lost contact with the Luna-25 shortly after 14:57pm (11:57 GMT) on Saturday.

"The apparatus moved into an unpredictable orbit and ceased to exist as a result of a collision with the surface of the Moon," it said in a statement.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66562629

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 10:41 am
by Sprouty
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... dApp_Other

Russia’s Luna-25 space craft has crashed into the moon after it spun into uncontrolled orbit, Russia’s space corporation Roskosmos said.

Roskosmos earlier said an “abnormal situation” had occurred as mission control tried to move the craft into a pre-landing orbit at 11:10 GMT on Saturday, ahead of a planned touchdown slated for Monday.

The failure of Russia’s first moon mission in 47 years underscore the decline of Russia’s space power since the glory days of Cold War competition, when Moscow was the first to launch a satellite to orbit the Earth– Sputnik 1, in 1957 – and Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin became the first man to travel into space in 1961.


Edit: beat me to it, rinks!

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:08 am
by Alvin Flummux
UN should fine them for littering.

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:39 am
by Mommy Christmas
You'd think landing on the moon would be a doddle after 50 years of technological progression...

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:44 am
by Moggy
Mommy wrote:You'd think landing on the moon would be a doddle after 50 years of technological progression...


We've had aeroplanes for 120 years, but they still crash occasionally.

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:31 pm
by rinks
India having a go now. Live coverage of moon landing attempt:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-a ... a-66576580

Re: Space! Luna 25 crashes into the moon

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 1:32 pm
by rinks
Currently at 150m altitude.