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Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:09 pm
by Skarjo
You realise there's a difference between coming from a muslim and coming from Islam right?

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:10 pm
by Dblock
Starjo wrote:
Dblock wrote:It is common fact most science came from the Quran .


This is not a fact. Common or otherwise.


It is a fact. The Quran describes that the world was not flat but that world was Ostrich shaped egg. Yet all the scientist at the time dismissed it and laughed at the theory of the Quran.

Also Falsey http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html

There read a bit, I like you, and I want you to be smarter then the sheep around you.

Thanks.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:10 pm
by Moggy
Dblock wrote:For Moggy saying how anyone in their right mind could believe in god is beyond him and he thinks it's lack of education. I hope he knows these people that came up with most university materials are muslims. Algebra anyone?


Not quite what I said. I said I can understand people in the past believing in religion. I can also understand uneducated people nowadays believing.

A Muslim might come up with a brilliant idea or invention, that doesn't mean there is a God, just that there was a clever Muslim.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:10 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Algebra's history can be traced back to the Babylonians, who weren't Muslims.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:11 pm
by False
Dblock wrote:But let's all pretend only the uneducated believe in god. L O L


I dont think its only the uneducated. Some of the greatest scientific minds of years past were religious.

There are many reasons for it. Cultural indoctrination, closed mindedness, fear of upsetting a vengeful god. Etc etc.

And though I havent read the Quran, I did study various fundements and tenets of the faith before I decided it really wasnt the one for me. The fanatics did little to sway me either, tbh.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:12 pm
by Dblock
Pontius Pilate wrote:Most science came from the Quran. :lol:


I'm not the one talking gooseberry fool.


IT IS A FACT!

The Quran is older then 1,400 . Half of the gooseberry fool science discovered less then 500 years ago when the Quran has explained it in details.

You don't know gooseberry fool and stop assuming gooseberry fool. Go play around high fives

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:12 pm
by Pontius Pilate
miraclesofthequran

:fp:

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:13 pm
by Dblock
Alvin Flummux wrote:Algebra's history can be traced back to the Babylonians, who weren't Muslims.


Yeah Bullshit. Fat people can be tracked to be liars LOL

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:13 pm
by Skarjo
Dblock wrote:
Starjo wrote:
Dblock wrote:It is common fact most science came from the Quran .


This is not a fact. Common or otherwise.


It is a fact. The Quran describes that the world was not flat but that world was Ostrich shaped egg. Yet all the scientist at the time dismissed it and laughed at the theory of the Quran.

Also Falsey http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html

There read a bit, I like you, and I want you to be smarter then the sheep around you.

Thanks.


Would that be the discovery that the world was round, and it's circumference calculated, that was made by Eratosthenes the ancient greek mathmetician in 236BC, or about 1000 years before Islam was founded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

Got any more?

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:13 pm
by False
Dblock wrote:
Starjo wrote:
Dblock wrote:It is common fact most science came from the Quran .


This is not a fact. Common or otherwise.


It is a fact. The Quran describes that the world was not flat but that world was Ostrich shaped egg. Yet all the scientist at the time dismissed it and laughed at the theory of the Quran.

Also Falsey http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html

There read a bit, I like you, and I want you to be smarter then the sheep around you.

Thanks.


Im not sure I can beat the sheep by becoming a sheep of a larger herd, but I will take a look at that link after work.

Though I worry for what level of neutrality and objectivity I can expect from a site called miracles of the quran.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:13 pm
by Xeno
Hey chuckle strawberry float stop derailing the thread (this is to the mong formally know as Derek).

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:14 pm
by Moggy
Dblock wrote:It is a fact. The Quran describes that the world was not flat but that world was Ostrich shaped egg. Yet all the scientist at the time dismissed it and laughed at the theory of the Quran.


You do know that it is a myth that people thought the world was flat? The Quran proved nothing that the Greeks didn't already know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

Edit:

Damn you Skarjo, stop typing quicker than me!

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:15 pm
by Dblock
Egg Noggy wrote:
Dblock wrote:For Moggy saying how anyone in their right mind could believe in god is beyond him and he thinks it's lack of education. I hope he knows these people that came up with most university materials are muslims. Algebra anyone?


Not quite what I said. I said I can understand people in the past believing in religion. I can also understand uneducated people nowadays believing.

A Muslim might come up with a brilliant idea or invention, that doesn't mean there is a God, just that there was a clever Muslim.


Yet the most converts are scientist . Moggy try again harder please.

Don't believe me? Google it.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:16 pm
by Cal
Egg Noggy wrote:I can see how hundreds/thousands of years ago people thought that everything was created. They had no way of knowing how vast the universe was or how small atoms are. They saw the wonders of the world and the stars in the sky and the only realistic explanation was that there was a being that created it all.


Then imagine just how terrifying something like a total eclipse must have been for those ancient peoples. Absolutely terrifying. :dread:

Like the sun being put out, their world being plunged into near darkness... Total eclipses still evoke awe, wonder, and we now know why they happen. I've seen one in my lifetime to date and the effect of it has stayed with me ever since.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:16 pm
by Moggy
Dblock wrote:
Egg Noggy wrote:
Dblock wrote:For Moggy saying how anyone in their right mind could believe in god is beyond him and he thinks it's lack of education. I hope he knows these people that came up with most university materials are muslims. Algebra anyone?


Not quite what I said. I said I can understand people in the past believing in religion. I can also understand uneducated people nowadays believing.

A Muslim might come up with a brilliant idea or invention, that doesn't mean there is a God, just that there was a clever Muslim.


Yet the most converts are scientist . Moggy try again harder please.

Don't believe me? Google it.


https://www.google.co.uk/#q=most+conver ... scientist+

:?

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:16 pm
by False
Xeno wrote:Hey chuckle strawberry float stop derailing the thread (this is to the mong formally know as Derek).


Just an fyi, there is already a (religion free) general science thread

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=31844

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:18 pm
by Moggy
Cal wrote:
Egg Noggy wrote:I can see how hundreds/thousands of years ago people thought that everything was created. They had no way of knowing how vast the universe was or how small atoms are. They saw the wonders of the world and the stars in the sky and the only realistic explanation was that there was a being that created it all.


Then imagine just how terrifying something like a total eclipse must have been for those ancient peoples. Absolutely terrifying. :dread:

Like the sun being put out, their world being plunged into near darkness... Total eclipses still evoke awe, wonder, and we now know why they happen. I've seen one in my lifetime to date and the effect of it has stayed with me ever since.


I agree with that! Other things like volcanos and earthquakes would also convince you that you were doing wrong and the Gods didn't like it.

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:18 pm
by Dblock
Starjo wrote:
Dblock wrote:
Starjo wrote:
Dblock wrote:It is common fact most science came from the Quran .


This is not a fact. Common or otherwise.


It is a fact. The Quran describes that the world was not flat but that world was Ostrich shaped egg. Yet all the scientist at the time dismissed it and laughed at the theory of the Quran.

Also Falsey http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/scientific_112.html

There read a bit, I like you, and I want you to be smarter then the sheep around you.

Thanks.


Would that be the discovery that the world was round, and it's circumference calculated, that was made by Eratosthenes the ancient greek mathmetician in 236BC, or about 1000 years before Islam was founded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes

Got any more?


Using Wikipedia for history lessons :dread:

Skarjo you full of it and you know it :lol:

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:20 pm
by False
I guess wikipedia is run by unbelievers with an anti religion agenda?

Re: Space

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:21 pm
by Skarjo
Well, it's no 'miraclesofthequran.com' but I'd reckon I'd probably believe it when it tells me that the ancient greeks predated the Quran.