Community vs. Parks & Recreation

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Which is better?

Community
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47%
Parks & Recreation
24
53%
 
Total votes: 45
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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Cuttooth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:34 am

jiggles wrote:
Zilnad wrote:Just watched the paintball episode of Community. And people think Parks is better?! How?!


Community’s gimmick episodes are their best.

It’s a shame the D&D episode has been scrubbed, because that was also one of the greats. Felt a little harsh to me. Chang, a character already established as intolerant, plays as a dark elf, and paints every inch of his skin jet black, other characters comment “are we just going to ignore this hate crime?”, he is killed within seconds and storms off annoyed at all the time wasted. Removing the whole episode for that brief moment, while it is actively acknowledging that the character has done something racist during it, just felt like an overcorrection, to me.

But of course as a white guy, it’s not my call to say what is or is not going too far with respect to blackface.

This is how I remembered the episode but watching it last night as I steam through the second season I don't think it holds up. It's not really played as Chang being deliberately insensitive, since he's actually trying to do a nice thing, and they just move past the shock humour to have him present in the room for way longer than I remembered. His death and leaving the game are also met mostly with sympathy. Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:

Community is a much more bitter show than I remember it being at the time. Quite a few jokes and premises seem to be set around being annoyed that competing sitcoms and shows are more successful than Community. Like the mockumentary episode seems less an homage and more a "strawberry float you Modern Family for being successful, look anyone can pull this style off". Still mostly funny though, although it'll be interesting to finally go past the third season.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Christopher » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:45 am

Cuttooth wrote: Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:



You can see why Chase was not happy with the direction his character took from season 2. In the first season and the first half of season 2 he was just an out of time guy with out dated views, but with a good heart underneath. Then they just turn him into an absolute psycho :dread:

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Tomous » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:49 am

Cuttooth wrote:although it'll be interesting to finally go past the third season.



Spoilers: it won't

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Moggy » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:50 am

Christopher wrote:
Cuttooth wrote: Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:



You can see why Chase was not happy with the direction his character took from season 2. In the first season and the first half of season 2 he was just an out of time guy with out dated views, but with a good heart underneath. Then they just turn him into an absolute psycho :dread:


So they just turned Pierce into real life Chevy Chase?

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Christopher » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:52 am

Moggy wrote:
Christopher wrote:
Cuttooth wrote: Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:



You can see why Chase was not happy with the direction his character took from season 2. In the first season and the first half of season 2 he was just an out of time guy with out dated views, but with a good heart underneath. Then they just turn him into an absolute psycho :dread:


So they just turned Pierce into real life Chevy Chase?


Is he a nut in real life then?

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Cuttooth » Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:58 am

Christopher wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Christopher wrote:
Cuttooth wrote: Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:



You can see why Chase was not happy with the direction his character took from season 2. In the first season and the first half of season 2 he was just an out of time guy with out dated views, but with a good heart underneath. Then they just turn him into an absolute psycho :dread:


So they just turned Pierce into real life Chevy Chase?


Is he a nut in real life then?

The rest of the cast will have absolutely nothing to do with him. I think he's meant to have said something racist to Donald Glover at one point.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by SandyCoin » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:02 am

Cuttooth wrote:
Christopher wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Christopher wrote:
Cuttooth wrote: Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:



You can see why Chase was not happy with the direction his character took from season 2. In the first season and the first half of season 2 he was just an out of time guy with out dated views, but with a good heart underneath. Then they just turn him into an absolute psycho :dread:


So they just turned Pierce into real life Chevy Chase?


Is he a nut in real life then?

The rest of the cast will have absolutely nothing to do with him. I think he's meant to have said something racist to Donald Glover at one point.



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I think Chevy has always been a dick, and difficult on set.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Christopher » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:03 am

Oh dear Chevy :dread:

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Victor Mildew » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:30 am

More like Chevy Race amirite :dread:

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Jenuall » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:52 am

Chevy was a dick and the showrunner Dan Harmon is a dick as well - they really rubbed each other the wrong way at it was massively to the shows detriment. It is a real shame because as noted the Pierce character actually had something flawed but real going for him in the first season that they really failed to tap into as it went on. It really was a chicken and egg type scenario with the Chevy/Pierce deterioration - he acted up more as they made the character more of a prick, and they made the character more of a prick because he was acting up.

Harmon trying to get in one of the female writers pants for most of the 2nd and 3rd season didn't help either.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Jenuall » Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:57 am

Cuttooth wrote:Community is a much more bitter show than I remember it being at the time. Quite a few jokes and premises seem to be set around being annoyed that competing sitcoms and shows are more successful than Community. Like the mockumentary episode seems less an homage and more a "strawberry float you Modern Family for being successful, look anyone can pull this style off". Still mostly funny though, although it'll be interesting to finally go past the third season.


I never really saw this as a bitter aspect of the show, and the comments they make about the documentary style being like "shooting fish in a barrel" when it comes to how you can chop things together to make something artificially work without the same effort of doing it "in narrarive" is valid!

Ironically the writer for those Community episodes actually went on to write for Modern Family! :lol:

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:53 am

Jenuall wrote:Chevy was a dick and the showrunner Dan Harmon is a dick as well - they really rubbed each other the wrong way at it was massively to the shows detriment. It is a real shame because as noted the Pierce character actually had something flawed but real going for him in the first season that they really failed to tap into as it went on. It really was a chicken and egg type scenario with the Chevy/Pierce deterioration - he acted up more as they made the character more of a prick, and they made the character more of a prick because he was acting up.

Harmon trying to get in one of the female writers pants for most of the 2nd and 3rd season didn't help either.


Yeah neither of them have come out of Community looking good, Harmon is a sleazeball and Chase is just awful.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by jiggles » Thu Mar 18, 2021 12:37 pm

Cuttooth wrote:
jiggles wrote:
Zilnad wrote:Just watched the paintball episode of Community. And people think Parks is better?! How?!


Community’s gimmick episodes are their best.

It’s a shame the D&D episode has been scrubbed, because that was also one of the greats. Felt a little harsh to me. Chang, a character already established as intolerant, plays as a dark elf, and paints every inch of his skin jet black, other characters comment “are we just going to ignore this hate crime?”, he is killed within seconds and storms off annoyed at all the time wasted. Removing the whole episode for that brief moment, while it is actively acknowledging that the character has done something racist during it, just felt like an overcorrection, to me.

But of course as a white guy, it’s not my call to say what is or is not going too far with respect to blackface.

This is how I remembered the episode but watching it last night as I steam through the second season I don't think it holds up. It's not really played as Chang being deliberately insensitive, since he's actually trying to do a nice thing, and they just move past the shock humour to have him present in the room for way longer than I remembered. His death and leaving the game are also met mostly with sympathy. Pierce in the rest of the episode though, holy gooseberry fool I don't remember his character sinking to that kind of low. :dread:

Community is a much more bitter show than I remember it being at the time. Quite a few jokes and premises seem to be set around being annoyed that competing sitcoms and shows are more successful than Community. Like the mockumentary episode seems less an homage and more a "strawberry float you Modern Family for being successful, look anyone can pull this style off". Still mostly funny though, although it'll be interesting to finally go past the third season.


Yeah, I also watched it again since I posted this and I did misremember it a bit. He was in it for longer than I thought before dying, and it wasn’t played as a joke on him putting on all that makeup for a second of use. But one of the characters also called him Al Jolson, that I didn’t remember, so I guess they doubled down on “the other characters know this is wrong” in that respect.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Robbo-92 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:20 pm

Skarjo wrote:Has anyone been watching Superstore on Netflix?

That's been surprisingly consistent and they're wrapping up after the current sixth season so they'll be going on a high.


Is series 6 on there? When I watched it they only had the 5 series on there? I do agree it’s great though, they’ve nailed the feel of the retail setting.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Zilnad » Sun Apr 04, 2021 6:22 am

Had a dream that I was dating Britta :datass:

Shirley and Annie were all excited and supportive but then Abed just had to be all Abed about it and explain that I was only dreaming. Then when Jeff got wind that it was all a dream, he just had to rub my face in it.

Troy was just playing it cool and Pierce didn't feature.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Squinty » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:15 am

I'm on S3 of Community and so far this show kicks the living gooseberry fool out of Parks and Rec.

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PostRe: Community vs. Parks & Recreation
by Corazon de Leon » Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:35 am

Robbo-92 wrote:
Skarjo wrote:Has anyone been watching Superstore on Netflix?

That's been surprisingly consistent and they're wrapping up after the current sixth season so they'll be going on a high.


Is series 6 on there? When I watched it they only had the 5 series on there? I do agree it’s great though, they’ve nailed the feel of the retail setting.


Watched a couple of episodes, hated it, watched a couple more, and now actually really like it. The mrs is on her second consecutive viewing. :lol:

And yeah, they've managed to get a surprisingly accurate representation of what it's like to work in a supermarket/big shop very well. :lol:

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