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by captain red dog » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:50 pm

I did get thinking though, in the event of a quarantine like in Italy, people aren't allowed out of their house for 2 weeks correct? How many people actually have two weeks worth of food in the house?

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by Preezy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:52 pm

captain red dog wrote:I did get thinking though, in the event of a quarantine like in Italy, people aren't allowed out of their house for 2 weeks correct? How many people actually have two weeks worth of food in the house?

It's a good point - I think on our next weekly shop I'll be getting less perishable stuff and more tins and staples, just in case. Need to get a chainsaw as well in case I have to attach it to my arm stump to fight off the hordes.

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by captain red dog » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:54 pm

I'm thinking I could maybe stretch it to a week with everything in the freezer and tin cupboard. But I have a little kid and if he doesn't get a decent pudding on an evening I'll be getting an absolute rollicking from him. :lol:

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by VlaSoul » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:15 pm

captain red dog wrote:I did get thinking though, in the event of a quarantine like in Italy, people aren't allowed out of their house for 2 weeks correct? How many people actually have two weeks worth of food in the house?

I reckon I could make it, but it's a lot easier for one person than for a family

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by poshrule_uk » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:25 pm

Jenuall wrote:Most people should be eligible for Statutory Sick Pay, but that doesn't really cover you for much in terms of the financial side of things. I think the 14 day self isolation is a sensible precaution from a medial perspective but it is definitely easier said that done.

We've had a guy at work who is in to his second week of it now after he travelled out to Thailand recently. Pretty sure he's basically just been at home watching gooseberry fool loads of Netflix. :lol:


I have people at work telling me not to go and saying I need self isolate when I get home which is fine but I don't need people stressing me out when it's already stressing me out internally!!!

The food is a.good point, I feel work places need to. Issue guidance ahead of holidays

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PostRe: Corona? I hardly know her! Coronavirus Reaches UK
by OrangeRKN » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:27 pm

I'd have thought most people would have enough tins/pasta/rice/freezer food to last two weeks if they had to.

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by Bunni » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:29 pm

captain red dog wrote:I did get thinking though, in the event of a quarantine like in Italy, people aren't allowed out of their house for 2 weeks correct? How many people actually have two weeks worth of food in the house?


I grew up poor and have a fear about going hungry. My cupboards are always bursting so I should be good for about two months. Which is good cuz I'm still feeling quite dire and might have to do the isolation thing. After I've boarded my second flight of the day :lol:

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by Moggy » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:32 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:I'd have thought most people would have enough tins/pasta/rice/freezer food to last two weeks if they had to.


Can Uber Eats deliver that stuff?

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by sawyerpip » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:37 pm

I'm pretty sure the self-isolation guidelines say it's fine to get stuff delivered to your house, so you can just do an online grocery shop if needed.

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by Parksey » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:15 am

The Japanese Prime Minister has just requested all elementary, junior high and high schools to shut from March 2nd right the way through to the end of the spring break (usually ends around the 8th April).

Might need to go out and buy those finger condoms Skarjo was on about.

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by captain red dog » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:27 am

Interesting development. Not sure if we are either well prepped here, or just being very negligent of the risks. A guy in work is out in Italy, and company policy is that he has to self isolate when he gets back. His wife is pregnant, presumably he will have to isolate from her.

Lots and lots of different scenarios are occurring. I hope it's under control, but with Boris in charge....

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by Knoyleo » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:43 am

Jenuall wrote:Most people should be eligible for Statutory Sick Pay, but that doesn't really cover you for much in terms of the financial side of things. I think the 14 day self isolation is a sensible precaution from a medial perspective but it is definitely easier said that done.

We've had a guy at work who is in to his second week of it now after he travelled out to Thailand recently. Pretty sure he's basically just been at home watching gooseberry fool loads of Netflix. :lol:

But most people will only qualify for this if they're actually ill. They won't be covered if they're self isolating as a precaution, and turn out to be fine. They'll get docked two weeks pay at best, potentially lose their jobs at worst. So you'll have people who keep going into work until they display symptoms, even though they've maybe been contagious for a week beforehand, because they're not covered until they're actually visibly ill.

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by Albert » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:45 am

I work for a pretty big company and We've just been asked to present DR/BCP plans to the exec board tomorrow regarding shutting down of the main offices.

I wonder if other company boards have been advised to do the same from the government or something.

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by Prototype » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:54 am

Parksey wrote:The Japanese Prime Minister has just requested all elementary, junior high and high schools to shut from March 2nd right the way through to the end of the spring break (usually ends around the 8th April).

Might need to go out and buy those finger condoms Skarjo was on about.


I think you should separate these two sentences a bit more. :dread:

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by Jenuall » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:07 am

Knoyleo wrote:
Jenuall wrote:Most people should be eligible for Statutory Sick Pay, but that doesn't really cover you for much in terms of the financial side of things. I think the 14 day self isolation is a sensible precaution from a medial perspective but it is definitely easier said that done.

We've had a guy at work who is in to his second week of it now after he travelled out to Thailand recently. Pretty sure he's basically just been at home watching gooseberry fool loads of Netflix. :lol:

But most people will only qualify for this if they're actually ill. They won't be covered if they're self isolating as a precaution, and turn out to be fine. They'll get docked two weeks pay at best, potentially lose their jobs at worst. So you'll have people who keep going into work until they display symptoms, even though they've maybe been contagious for a week beforehand, because they're not covered until they're actually visibly ill.

Yeah I don't think it's as simple as it should be. There was an article about this very thing on the BBC yesterday: Coronavirus: Will I get paid if I self-isolate?

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has sent guidance to UK employers telling them staff who have been asked to self-isolate are entitled to take the time as sick leave.

Acas, the independent arbitration service agrees and has also published advice for staff and employers

But senior adviser Michele Piertney told the BBC: "If a medical expert says we are putting you into quarantine then you... won't get sick leave as a matter of course."

If you can work from home, you may be able to carry on as normal, says Sarah Evans, employment law partner at JMW Solicitors. But shop and factory workers probably won't have that option.

Acas, says it's "good practice" for your employer to treat it as sick leave or agree for the time to be taken as holiday.

"Otherwise there's a risk the employee will come to work because they want to get paid," it says.

The Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development goes a step further and says "there's also a strong moral responsibility to ensure that employees feel safe and secure in their employment", and that firms should make home working easier and be flexible with time off.

But this is only advice and not the law if it is you who decides to self-isolate, rather than your boss who asks you to.

"There is no statutory right to pay if you aren't sick," says Ms Evans. Although some contracts may be more generous than others.

A spokeswoman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: "People who are prevented from working because of a risk to public health are able to claim universal credit."

She said they may also be entitled to contributory employment and support allowance, which helps with living costs for people who cannot work because of a health condition.


So yeah, clear as mud basically! :lol:

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PostRe: Corona? I hardly know her! Coronavirus Reaches UK
by Hexx » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:12 pm

I'm on immune suppressants. If the UK is hit hard I'm basically dead aren't I? :(

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by Cuttooth » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:33 pm

Hexx wrote:I'm on immune suppressants. If the UK is hit hard I'm basically dead aren't I? :(

Has anyone got in touch with you about that because they sure as gooseberry fool haven't with me.

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by poshrule_uk » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:42 pm

My work will pay sick pay if you have to isolate which is pretty cool

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by Mafro » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:00 pm

poshrule_uk wrote:My work will pay sick pay if you have to isolate which is pretty cool

Same. 2 week sick pay which I'm surprised about given how banana splitish they can be.

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PostRe: Corona? I hardly know her! Coronavirus Reaches UK
by captain red dog » Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:06 pm

Fortunately I can work from home. Government advice is that it should be treated as sick leave, but "should" doesn't fill me with confidence if the worst comes to the worst.


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