Coronavirus & stuff

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by Victor Mildew » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:11 pm

Mafro wrote:Surprised the April 12th step wasn't two weeks earlier so they could have the Great British Beer Gardens™ open for the Easter weekend.


AN ENGLISH PUBTRY GARDEN
BOJO UNVEILS AMBITIOUS PLANS FOR A BARMY SUMMER BOOZE UP! "We we we we, MUST, get the the er, ECONOMY going by having a safe, measured pint at our local. It's time to forget the troubles behind us, and look forward to to to the er hangovers in front, of er, us"

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Jenuall » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:12 pm

Considering how much effort they apparently put into getting strong the gyms seem to be the place to go if you're looking for snowflakes these days!

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Grumpy David » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:18 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
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Corazon de Leon wrote:Hosting the Euros would be offensively stupid. Ridiculous suggestion.


What's the alternative for UEFA? Keep it spread out all over Europe? With fans (what percentage of the tickets have to be held back to deal with social distancing) / without fans? With tickets only available to people living in the host country? Cancel it?

I have no doubt that UEFA are doing Continuity Planning for it and if we can continue vaccinating at the current rate (and likely ramp up as the Modena, Novavax and Johnson & Johnson vaccines become available) then the UK does become a viable option if UEFA decide they'd like to try a somewhat normal event. And it being outdoors in June and July does make it lower risk than something like an indoor concert.

The target of all adults to have been offered a 1st dose by 31st July seems very easy. If this target is actually reached 3 weeks before the start of the Euros would you have a different view?


No, I wouldn't (and my understanding is that Euro 2020 is scheduled to begin on 11 June, way before the 31 July deadline). It is genuine madness to hold an international football tournament(or indoor concert, or open-air concert for that matter) in the UK this year before we have time to fully vaccinate the majority of the population with both of the required doses. I'm all for letting fans back into stadiums as soon as possible, but not before we can be absolutely sure there are no major risks, and certainly not in large numbers at first.

There are so many questions that we don't take into account as well - this is an international tournament, and that throws up a whole load of problems. The UK is only scheduled to host seven or eight games of Euro 2020(off the top of my head), ramping that up would require a massive effort in a short amount of time. Given that the government, and presumably the FA, are looking for fans to be in stadiums, whose fans will be allowed in? Are we going to allow limited numbers(or unlimited numbers) of foreign fans to travel from quite far afield to support their respective countries?

How do we police all of that, given that different countries will have different rates of vaccination? Do we not do that, but let England/Scotland/Wales supporters travel around the country to support their team(or, for example, if I win a ticket to Wembley in the ballot, can I attend it given that I live in Scotland?)? If we decide not to allow foreign fans into the country, how are tickets allocated out, where are matches played, etc? Do the countries that aren't England, Scotland and Wales accept that those three teams will have a massive home-field advantage while the other 21 have no support?

FWIW, the government have officially quashed the Euros rumour regardless. Though I wouldn't necessarily take Matt Hancock's word for that. :lol: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/matt-hancock-euro-2020-england-wembley-b1805271.html

EDIT: Should be clear here that I'm objecting to the tournament being held here with fans in the stadiums, not the tournament being held here behind closed doors.


Don't know why I thought it started closer to the end of June rather than the start!

I still think 31st July is way too easy as a target based on current vaccination rates which are likely to get faster (and especially if Johnson & Johnson gets approved as it's a 1 dose vaccine) so my thinking is that essentially every adult who wants a vaccine will have had at least a single dose by that stage.

And a large amount of games will take place from 21st June onwards which sounds like we may have more or less finished social distancing since even night clubs will be allowed to reopen. Before then up to 10,000 are allowed.

The TIFO video on the previous page deals with what other European countries could take on the logistics of a last minute change and the 2 obvious options of France and Germany having recently hosted it and will host the next one means neither shows much enthusiasm for this particular one.

The home advantage issue is a non issue for Wales and Scotland but not an unsolvable issue for England.

Agreed that Hancock saying its not happened means it's probably more likely that it will happen. :lol:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by DML » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:51 pm

I just cannot see how anyone can be in a nightclub in June. How is that ever going to happen?

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by <]:^D » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:51 pm

Mafro wrote:So many people getting a personality again on April 12th..



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Sandy » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:00 pm

blackoutHERO wrote:The hatred for gym goers in here is outstanding :lol: :lol: :lol:


It's because you're trying to kill Zilnad's wife.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Karl_ » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:24 pm

Cuttooth wrote:"Gyms open April 12th we need weights."

"I know"

*gets to the gym and only one bro is there*

"Where is he??"

"Who do you think gave us the weights?"

like if u cry evrytime

:(

Oh my God :lol:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Hexx » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:12 pm

The CRG aren't happy.

twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1363924847705919491


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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Drumstick » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:24 pm

Can't wait to see what new media personalities Chris Whitty and Jono Van Tam are going to be up to after this. Probably get given some TV show.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by captain red dog » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:31 pm

Hexx wrote:The CRG aren't happy.

twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1363924847705919491


The thing is, let's pretend he is right and the modelling is over cautious. We get to the end of April and excess death is normal, hospitals admittance is normal, R is comfortably below 1.

Do the CRG really believe that in those circumstances the govt wouldn't bring plans forward?

Nobody, generally, will complain if the plans speed up due to the effectiveness of the vaccine, but they would scream if the end date was in April and slipped. The target has to surely be to get to normal levels of hospital demand and death and to keep it there.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Rex Kramer » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:34 pm

Can someone just give Steve Baker a job to do so he stops creating "research groups" in order to fuel his own importance.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:35 pm

Drumstick wrote:Can't wait to see what new media personalities Chris Whitty and Jono Van Tam are going to be up to after this. Probably get given some TV show.


They'll be in Australia eating kangaroo bollocks at the end of the year.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Dual » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:02 pm

My barber has just texted me to say they're taking bookings for April 12th

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Zilnad » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:12 pm

Sandy wrote:
blackoutHERO wrote:The hatred for gym goers in here is outstanding :lol: :lol: :lol:


It's because you're trying to kill Zilnad's wife.


Are you taking a personal dig or is that just a friendly joke? I'm not feeling well today so not sure how to take it.

I've just been reading the government roadmap doc and I'm relieved to see that WFH will still be encouraged until at least June 21st.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Jenuall » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:28 pm

twitter.com/Zubhaque/status/1363939263956611072



Nothing has changed, schools are no safer than they were in January or last September. And as we've increasingly discovered (as if it were in any strawberry floating doubt) they weren't safe in first place.

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:30 pm

Double post ignore

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:57 pm

I haven't been back to my flat in London since before Christmas and stayed in Liverpool instead. But my flatmate in London is planning on letting her boyfriend visit her this weekend from Newcastle. Im not sure what to do? Remind her of the lockdown rules and that her bf shouldn't be driving hundreds of miles from Newcastle to London?

What should I do?

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Neo Cortex » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:08 pm

Go to France?

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Dual » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:27 pm

No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:I haven't been back to my flat in London since before Christmas and stayed in Liverpool instead. But my flatmate in London is planning on letting her boyfriend visit her this weekend from Newcastle. Im not sure what to do? Remind her of the lockdown rules and that her bf shouldn't be driving hundreds of miles from Newcastle to London?

What should I do?


If you're in Liverpool I wouldn't start anything.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Tomous » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:29 pm

Dual wrote:
No:1 Final Fantasy Fan wrote:I haven't been back to my flat in London since before Christmas and stayed in Liverpool instead. But my flatmate in London is planning on letting her boyfriend visit her this weekend from Newcastle. Im not sure what to do? Remind her of the lockdown rules and that her bf shouldn't be driving hundreds of miles from Newcastle to London?

What should I do?


If you're in Liverpool I wouldn't start anything.



Solid advice for anyone in Liverpool really.

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