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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:21 pm

Moggy wrote:It makes me laugh when I see people complaining about this being like living under a dictatorship. Even at its height it was the most relaxed and easiest to abuse lockdown possible and idiots think it's like the Third Reich just because the pub was shut and they had to wear a mask in a shop.


Prime Minister unlawfully suspends parliament: "..."

Government mandates mask usage in public during a deadly pandemic: "It's like living in a dictatorship!"

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Hypes » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:23 pm

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Hexx wrote:In some ways I’m happy I’m immune suppressed Introvert and a coward

I basically never left full lockdown - easier then trying to navigate Ever changing rules


I never left full lockdown either. I've only actually left my house 3 times in the last 6 months to go anywhere other than out to the bins which I do every few days. :lol:

Seriously? I'd have gone mad

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:28 pm

Godzilla wrote:Does anyone else think it's odd that the government is having to fight/negotiate with local leaders over local lockdown?

I understand Scotland and Wales are self governing but Manchester should surely have to do what the UK government tells them?


We are not in a dictatorship and the government cannot rule without the consent of the people.

If the local government of Manchester fights back, there's not much the government can do in the short term.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Rocsteady » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:34 pm

They're closing gyms in Poland :cry:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Drumstick » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:40 pm

Godzilla wrote:Does anyone else think it's odd that the government is having to fight/negotiate with local leaders over local lockdown?

I understand Scotland and Wales are self governing but Manchester should surely have to do what the UK government tells them?

Why should they when the same rules don't appear to apply to government officials?

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Victor Mildew » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:45 pm

I'd imagine local governments have had enough of the clearly inept main people's collective bullshit and have wisely decided to take matters in to their own hands.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Jenuall » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:50 pm

I would have liked to see much more proactive action from local councils etc. to take matters into their own hands to overcome the government's lack of control over the pandemic and to put restrictions in place to protect their citizens.

Sadly the power lies very much in Westminster and the local areas simply don't have the funding and support to implement their own controls and funding schemes to protect jobs through any lockdown

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Tafdolphin » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:50 pm

Wife just got the nod she's a contact case: colleague she had lunch with last week has it.

Wuh-oh etc

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Qikz » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm

Hypes wrote:
Qikz wrote:
Hexx wrote:In some ways I’m happy I’m immune suppressed Introvert and a coward

I basically never left full lockdown - easier then trying to navigate Ever changing rules


I never left full lockdown either. I've only actually left my house 3 times in the last 6 months to go anywhere other than out to the bins which I do every few days. :lol:

Seriously? I'd have gone mad


I was a carer for nearly 8 years for my Mum, during that period I rarely went anywhere either. I think I just prefer being inside on my own. I'm not sure if that's why but I find myself more anxious when I go out for any reason and coronavirus upped that to 11. The amount of twats I see going by without masks and gooseberry fool it kinda made me feel better about being inside.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Hexx » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:38 pm

19k cases again today

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Tomous » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Qikz wrote:
Hypes wrote:
Qikz wrote:
Hexx wrote:In some ways I’m happy I’m immune suppressed Introvert and a coward

I basically never left full lockdown - easier then trying to navigate Ever changing rules


I never left full lockdown either. I've only actually left my house 3 times in the last 6 months to go anywhere other than out to the bins which I do every few days. :lol:

Seriously? I'd have gone mad


I was a carer for nearly 8 years for my Mum, during that period I rarely went anywhere either. I think I just prefer being inside on my own. I'm not sure if that's why but I find myself more anxious when I go out for any reason and coronavirus upped that to 11. The amount of twats I see going by without masks and gooseberry fool it kinda made me feel better about being inside.


If your mental health is better with you doing your own thing inside then great. The only thing I'd be careful of is the physical impact and vitamin deficiencies etc. A walk a day even just for 10-20 minutes would make a big difference.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by captain red dog » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:09 pm

Moggy wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Does anyone else think it's odd that the government is having to fight/negotiate with local leaders over local lockdown?

I understand Scotland and Wales are self governing but Manchester should surely have to do what the UK government tells them?


We are not in a dictatorship and the government cannot rule without the consent of the people.

If the local government of Manchester fights back, there's not much the government can do in the short term.

Any law brought in by Parliament cannot be vetoed by local authorities can it?

On a minor point, the emergency laws granted to the government do allow them to rule without consent as measures are not tied to votes in Parliament as far as I'm aware?

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:20 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Godzilla wrote:Does anyone else think it's odd that the government is having to fight/negotiate with local leaders over local lockdown?

I understand Scotland and Wales are self governing but Manchester should surely have to do what the UK government tells them?


We are not in a dictatorship and the government cannot rule without the consent of the people.

If the local government of Manchester fights back, there's not much the government can do in the short term.

Any law brought in by Parliament cannot be vetoed by local authorities can it?

On a minor point, the emergency laws granted to the government do allow them to rule without consent as measures are not tied to votes in Parliament as far as I'm aware?


I didn't say they legally needed the consent of the people.

But in reality, there isn't much the government can do if vast swathes of the country ignore them. A dictatorship would send in the army to shoot people who don't comply, what can our government do? Especially when Cummings and the SNP MP have set a precedent that fines are meaningless.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Dowbocop » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:44 pm

Knoyleo wrote:I suppose feeding children is just what you get when you vote for socialists. :roll:


Absolutely Jacob, they should stick with self-serving crony-capitalist charlatans who would never even dream of creating a hard border between constituent UK nations. Well, not for the benefit of the public anyway...

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Tomous » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:05 pm

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Godzilla wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-54546058

Margaret Ferrier: Met Police to take no further action against Covid MP

Public getting fined, MPs get let off, keeps her job and pension.


And people wonder why so many people are ignoring the rules.

Cummings destroyed the original lockdown, this decision (as well as Stanley Johnson) will stop people following any further lockdowns.


Believe they've referred the case to the Scotland Police for their consideration.

Absolutely shocking she is still in a job

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by <]:^D » Thu Oct 15, 2020 9:13 pm

PatSharpsMullet wrote:
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At this rate Marcus Rashford will have a knighthood in the New Year’s honours for twice shaming the government into feeding children during a pandemic.

Boris Johnson doesn't give a gooseberry fool about the majority of his own kids, so why would he care about anyone else's?


the easy reply to this would be "yeah, its the governments job actually. oh wait..."

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Victor Mildew » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:13 am

LIVING UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS FROM TOMORROW!

Oh no, what does this mean?! :dread: :dread: :dread:

"You cant go in someone else's house and you have to buy food at the pub"

OH NO IT'S LIKE LIVING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP WHEN WILLL THE OPRESSION END

Pathetic.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:40 am

Victor Mildew wrote:LIVING UNDER NEW RESTRICTIONS FROM TOMORROW!

Oh no, what does this mean?! :dread: :dread: :dread:

"You cant go in someone else's house and you have to buy food at the pub"

OH NO IT'S LIKE LIVING IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP WHEN WILLL THE OPRESSION END

Pathetic.


It's weird but the same people I see saying things like that are the same people who were most vocal about clapping for the NHS a few months ago.....

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Zilnad » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:08 am

We could hear our neighbour coughing through the wall all night last night and she's just invited a podiatrist into her home for her monthly foot thing. I just can't believe how selfish people are.

And again, this is the woman who patrolled the street to check which houses weren't clapping for the NHS.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Errkal » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:13 am

I mean it could just be a cold, if it isn't a dry cough then it isn't a symptom so you would go for a test.

You are hearing a cough through the wall it seems a bit excessive to jump to their are selfish people.


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