Coronavirus & stuff
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Jenuall
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Oh yeah I don't have a problem with one, it's just the concern around the logistics of it, how many we need to deliver, whether we will be done with the initial rollout in time to switch to boosters etc. We give about 15 million flu jabs on average per year, if we have to do that number of covid boosters then it's going to be easy enough to achieve, but if we're looking at a situation where we have to give 2x that number out (plus giving the annual flu jabs as well, and potentially being pro-active around any variant outbreaks) then it's going to be more of a challenge.
Biggest concern is public perception/reaction - so many people are "done with lockdown!" now and will similarly be thinking "what the strawberry float!? why do we have to have another jab I thought it was strawberry floating done!?"
Biggest concern is public perception/reaction - so many people are "done with lockdown!" now and will similarly be thinking "what the strawberry float!? why do we have to have another jab I thought it was strawberry floating done!?"
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Grumpy David
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The 1st doses first policy has been entirely vindicated as the optimum strategy when allocating vaccines in short supply. It's not like the 1st dose is only half the total protection, it's actually the majority of the protection. It was controversial at the time but you basically can't find anyone arguing against the policy anymore.
In the case of the Oxford vaccine it actually improves the efficacy too.
Apart from the USA and Israel (neither of which are having supply issues), pretty much every major country has copied the UK on delaying 2nd doses to ensure people get their 1st dose much earlier.
What that table doesn't show is the percentage uptake, the fear was something like 20% of people would refuse the vaccine but at least in the age groups that make up the overwhelming majority of hospitalisations, ICU admissions and deaths, the percentage is 5% who have yet to get the vaccine (this is more like 15% in London).
The USA will overtake the UK whilst supply remains the bottleneck but partly why they keep expanding the eligible age groups is because they have a much lower percentage uptake. Their roll out speed will soon not be limited by supply, but by demand which is what Israel has faced for over a month now.
In terms of annual boosters, I'm very confident that most countries will be able to roll these out faster than 2021 roll out purely because the supply chain is constantly being increased and the vaccines available are increasing too. Who would have thought a year ago that we'd have started vaccinating in December and will shortly have 4 approved vaccines? With probably a further 3 in a few months time (Novavax, Valneva and Curevac).
In the case of the Oxford vaccine it actually improves the efficacy too.
Apart from the USA and Israel (neither of which are having supply issues), pretty much every major country has copied the UK on delaying 2nd doses to ensure people get their 1st dose much earlier.
What that table doesn't show is the percentage uptake, the fear was something like 20% of people would refuse the vaccine but at least in the age groups that make up the overwhelming majority of hospitalisations, ICU admissions and deaths, the percentage is 5% who have yet to get the vaccine (this is more like 15% in London).
The USA will overtake the UK whilst supply remains the bottleneck but partly why they keep expanding the eligible age groups is because they have a much lower percentage uptake. Their roll out speed will soon not be limited by supply, but by demand which is what Israel has faced for over a month now.
In terms of annual boosters, I'm very confident that most countries will be able to roll these out faster than 2021 roll out purely because the supply chain is constantly being increased and the vaccines available are increasing too. Who would have thought a year ago that we'd have started vaccinating in December and will shortly have 4 approved vaccines? With probably a further 3 in a few months time (Novavax, Valneva and Curevac).
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Victor Mildew
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Jag booked for Saturday at 9:30am 
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Return_of_the_STAR
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Alvin Flummux wrote:Got the first Moderna shot a week and a half ago. Injection site ached like a mummy strawberry floater for a day and a half, and had a decent immune response that made me feel lightly flu-like, but I was good by the end of the second day.
Second dose scheduled for the 7th.
Sounds similar to how I felt after the moderna one as well.
I also still haven’t been able to book a second one yet, the NHS still can’t solve the moderna booking issue
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Jenuall
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Just saw that the global death toll recently passed 3 million people. 
The global picture is still truly frightening, something which is easy to lose sight of in our bubble of countries that are progressing with relatively successful lockdowns and vaccination programs.
The global picture is still truly frightening, something which is easy to lose sight of in our bubble of countries that are progressing with relatively successful lockdowns and vaccination programs.
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