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Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

I saw some woman on tv this morning being asked what she thinks of a second lockdown.

"I couldn't do it, I just literally couldn't do it"

Well, you're going to have to, I don't understand these people who think they can just decided its not something they want to do.

Hexx wrote:Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

Was just about to mention this. Utterly stupid to be suggesting that right now, when it's not even clear what the situation will be in September. Also the fine system needs to be scrapped. In normal times it is basically a tax on poor parents that can't afford family holidays during school holidays.

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

Was just about to mention this. Utterly stupid to be suggesting that right now, when it's not even clear what the situation will be in September. Also the fine system needs to be scrapped. In normal times it is basically a tax on poor parents that can't afford family holidays during school holidays.

Makes complete sense if you look at it from the point of view of Cummings' herd immunity plan.

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

Was just about to mention this. Utterly stupid to be suggesting that right now, when it's not even clear what the situation will be in September. Also the fine system needs to be scrapped. In normal times it is basically a tax on poor parents that can't afford family holidays during school holidays.

Makes complete sense if you look at it from the point of view of Cummings' herd immunity plan.

You really think that's what they are going for now? With the current rate of infection, wouldn't that make herd immunity almost impossible?

There will be a return of full class sizes for primary and secondary schools in September in England, five days a week, the education secretary has confirmed.

Speaking on BBC Breakfast, Gavin Williamson said existing class bubbles of 15 would be expanded to 30 once schools return in September.

But Williamson said it would be “more complex within secondary schools”.

The education secretary also said there would be a “different approach” to social distancing within schools to the approach taken in pubs or retail settings.

The government’s full plan would be set out later this week, he said, but the approach would be “really careful, really cautious”.

Williamson told LBC Radio that parents could be fined if they did not send their children back to school in September.

"It is going to be compulsory for children to return back to school unless there's a very good reason, or a local spike where there have had to be local lockdowns."

There is a very good reason already, that the government, with hundreds of new infections each day, has misled and lied to the country during the course of this pandemic and consequently their advice is not to be trusted.

captain red dog wrote:

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

Was just about to mention this. Utterly stupid to be suggesting that right now, when it's not even clear what the situation will be in September. Also the fine system needs to be scrapped. In normal times it is basically a tax on poor parents that can't afford family holidays during school holidays.

Makes complete sense if you look at it from the point of view of Cummings' herd immunity plan.

You really think that's what they are going for now? With the current rate of infection, wouldn't that make herd immunity almost impossible?

We've already established Dominic Cummings is an idiot.

Drumstick wrote:

There will be a return of full class sizes for primary and secondary schools in September in England, five days a week, the education secretary has confirmed.

Speaking on BBC Breakfast, Gavin Williamson said existing class bubbles of 15 would be expanded to 30 once schools return in September.

But Williamson said it would be “more complex within secondary schools”.

The education secretary also said there would be a “different approach” to social distancing within schools to the approach taken in pubs or retail settings.

The government’s full plan would be set out later this week, he said, but the approach would be “really careful, really cautious”.

Williamson told LBC Radio that parents could be fined if they did not send their children back to school in September.

"It is going to be compulsory for children to return back to school unless there's a very good reason, or a local spike where there have had to be local lockdowns."

There is a very good reason already, that the government, with hundreds of new infections each day, has misled and lied to the country during the course of this pandemic and consequently their advice is not to be trusted.

Unless there has been a miraculous change in the next two months there there is no strawberry floating way I'm sending my kids back to a full school in September.

DML wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Moggy wrote:

captain red dog wrote:

Hexx wrote:Parents to be fined if kids don’t go to school in September!

Was just about to mention this. Utterly stupid to be suggesting that right now, when it's not even clear what the situation will be in September. Also the fine system needs to be scrapped. In normal times it is basically a tax on poor parents that can't afford family holidays during school holidays.

Makes complete sense if you look at it from the point of view of Cummings' herd immunity plan.

You really think that's what they are going for now? With the current rate of infection, wouldn't that make herd immunity almost impossible?

We've already established Dominic Cummings is an idiot.

Yes but I attribute these stupid policies to pure idiocy, I don't think herd immunity is still the policy now as the infection rate isn't anywhere near high enough to do it.

Herd infection was undoubtedly the policy in the early weeks which has led to the disastrous situation we are going through.

To me, this government is handling things in a typical old school Tory way. They make stupid decisions or want unachievable policies with the only guidence being to "just get it done". I've come across so many managers like that in work and it always led to disaster and failure. Thankfully my company are trying to get rid of that management style, but sadly we now have a government hell bent on it.

FWIW I don't think they will start dishing out fines right off the bat unless they really, really want to haemorrhage the support of parents nationwide.

"Send your kids to school, or else" is not a reasonable approach in the slightest.

Drumstick wrote:FWIW I don't think they will start dishing out fines right off the bat unless they really, really want to haemorrhage the support of parents nationwide.

"Send your kids to school, or else" is not a reasonable approach in the slightest.

Unless there is very hard pressure from rebel Tories and the opposition, I actually think they really would force that through.

It might sound weird but I have been persuading my daughter who is 18 and just finished her A levels to go back to education for another year, I just think she will be safer in an education enviroment as apposed to being in a work one, in retail or hospitality for example its hard to keep your distance from people, and its not exactly a good time to find work so I feel they can treat you as bad as they want or break whatever rules as someone else will jump up to take your place. She has just been accepted on to a one year course to learn plumbing not something I thought shed do but I feel better about that than her signing on and then going for loads of interviews in a crowded job market.

kerr9000 wrote:It might sound weird but I have been persuading my daughter who is 18 and just finished her A levels to go back to education for another year, I just think she will be safer in an education enviroment as apposed to being in a work one, in retail or hospitality for example its hard to keep your distance from people, and its not exactly a good time to find work so I feel they can treat you as bad as they want or break whatever rules as someone else will jump up to take your place. She has just been accepted on to a one year course to learn plumbing not something I thought shed do but I feel better about that than her signing on and then going for loads of interviews in a crowded job market.

My opinion on the matter is hardly educated, but I'm lead to believe that if any time is a good time to take yourself out of the job market and focus on eduction, it's probably a recession.

Plumbers are on great paper - learn the trade during the inevitable recession, become qualified, sorted. It would mean working in people’s homes but with a decent mask or whatever, shouldn’t be too bad.

I think she will end up going to uni to follow something connected to her A levels after but not sure, it just seems better to tread water and learn a trade than enter the job market right now, and she doesnt seem keen on going to uni when you get in debt and yet wont be able to get the real uni experiance as everythings so messed up, she also wanted to lean to something practical for a bit as she says she feels wiped out on theorising and such.... Its a weird time to be around to be fair and I feel sorry for her, we didnt get to do anything much of note for her 18th Birthday as it was basically just as lockdown started. A big meal with friends and family and all sorts of other plans just kept getting downgraded until it was just a takeaway, we had talked for years about how cool it would be when she hit 18 and how we would have a drink and go see an 18 in the cinema and everything and this really snookerd her birthday.

I cant wait to see what her A level grades end up being with all this crazyness, she was doing English Literature/Language combined, Sociology and Film Studies... it sounds bad but im hoping theyll be helped by her being on the college council and being the student president and such as there seems to be a sort of what they think of you element going in to the scoring.

Work has just said that we are going full time at the end of July. Didn't think I'd have more time off so this is good gooseberry fool.

The rate that the number of confirmed cases is increasing in the US is now essentially mirroring their initial outbreak back in March:



If the rate these translate into deaths starts to do the same then they are going to be even more monumentally strawberry floated than they already are.

Jenuall wrote:The rate that the number of confirmed cases is increasing in the US is now essentially mirroring their initial outbreak back in March:



If the rate these translate into deaths starts to do the same then they are going to be even more monumentally strawberry floated than they already are.

I'm surprised we haven't seen a similar trend.

Hime wrote:

Jenuall wrote:The rate that the number of confirmed cases is increasing in the US is now essentially mirroring their initial outbreak back in March:



If the rate these translate into deaths starts to do the same then they are going to be even more monumentally strawberry floated than they already are.

I'm surprised we haven't seen a similar trend.

I'm pretty sure we're about to in a few weeks. America started opening up first.

Victor Mildew wrote:I saw some woman on tv this morning being asked what she thinks of a second lockdown.

"I couldn't do it, I just literally couldn't do it"

Well, you're going to have to, I don't understand these people who think they can just decided its not something they want to do.

Because the governments already came out and said they wouldn’t do it again haven’t they? Aside form local lockdowns.

Aside from that I’d say the general populations done with it - I can’t imagine the compliance being as high as before sadly