Coronavirus & stuff

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by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:21 am

Some places have gone mad in this world.
Hong Kong are culling pet hamsters and urging people to hand their infected hamsters.

https://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/articl ... rules.html

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:28 pm

I won't be wearing a mask from next Thursday pretty much anywhere (maybe taxis/transport if required), for what is now a mild cold to the majority of people. Everyone who can, has been offered the vaccine, the huge majority of the population has antibodies, there are booster jabs available etc etc. I have no issue with anyone doing whatever they wish themselves, if it makes them feel safer.

We don't expect people to have any restrictions due to flu every year that kills thousands of people. If anyone is expecting people not to go to work due to having a cold, then that is just not going to happen in many cases, many jobs don't have sick pay, and many people who are able to function with a cold will just carry on and function with a cold, and rightfully go to work to earn money and pay their bills.


These twats are so close to realising how strawberry floating stupid our system is.

They are right that we don't wear masks for flu. They are right that people don't get sick pay and so go to work with a cold.

But they never stop to think "maybe we should take some simple measures to cut flu deaths" or "maybe people should get proper sick pay and not be forced to work sick and infect others".

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Victor Mildew » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:37 pm

I though that was a N1FFF quote at first

Hexx wrote:Ad7 is older and balder than I thought.
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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:05 pm

twitter.com/TomBrada1991/status/1484879097524539396


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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Squinty » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:52 pm

:dread:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:55 pm

I'm full of twitter news today.

twitter.com/SubjectAccesss/status/1484907250821046273


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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by No:1 Final Fantasy Fan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:01 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:I though that was a N1FFF quote at first

I'm not antimask or anti vaccine lol. I quite enjoy wearing a mask tbh.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Grumpy David » Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:05 am

https://archive.ph/3BYEN

Antiviral Covid pills to keep us out of hospital

Vulnerable patients are trialling oral medicines, similar to HIV therapies, that will eventually allow us to be treated at home

So far the focus has been on treating patients who have been infected. But perhaps the most exciting potential use of antivirals is as a prophylaxis, a preventive treatment given to people before they test positive.

Paxlovid and molnupiravir work in slightly different ways, but both aim to stop the virus replicating once it has infected human cells. If given after someone has contracted the virus, this stops the viral load rising to a level at which they become severely ill. They might suffer mild symptoms, but it will hopefully stop them needing hospital care.

If given before the virus reaches the body, however, antivirals can stop it taking hold. This preventive approach is being trialled simultaneously by Pfizer, MSD and the NIHR, with uninfected adult family members given the drug as soon as their relatives test positive.

No results have yet been produced but there is strong precedent for the use of drugs in this way. HIV treatment has been revolutionised in the past decade by the use of antivirals as pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP), with those who take these drugs receiving 99 per cent protection from sexual transmission. Some at-risk people, including some gay and bisexual men, take the drug every day to prevent risk of contracting the virus: the “pre- exposure” approach. Others take a “post-exposure” course if they believe they have had unprotected sex with someone who has HIV.

Covid, of course, is not HIV. But a similar approach could be taken for future coronavirus outbreaks. One route — the “post-exposure” route — would be to give the treatment to close contacts of those who test positive, as is being trialled for family members. Another approach — the “pre-exposure” route — would be to give the treatment to those in high-risk settings.

In the future, if an outbreak were to hit a care home, for example, all residents and staff could be given the drug. If a bigger wave arrived, all elderly and vulnerable people in the country could receive a prescription.

Daria Hazuda, vice-president of infectious disease and vaccine discovery at MSD, said: “Using these kinds of drugs as prophylaxis in high-risk individuals and high-risk settings will be very impactful at saving lives.” The scientist, who worked on HIV in the late 1980s and early 1990s, added: “For HIV we still don’t know how to make a good vaccine despite decades of trying.” Antivirals have filled the gap, providing almost 100 per cent protection as a preventive measure.

Antivirals are also attractive for another reason. If a catastrophic variant arrived that bypassed our vaccines, scientists are confident antivirals would remain effective. Annaliesa Anderson, chief scientist at Pfizer’s antivirals unit, said the way the drugs work mean they are unlikely to be affected by any future variants, pointing to data published last week showing paxlovid is completely unaffected by Omicron.

“Variants of concern are driven by changes in the spike protein, which is the target of the vaccine,” Anderson said. But antivirals do not interact with the spike protein. Paxlovid instead attacks the main protease, an enzyme the virus uses to replicate.

“The main protease is very well conserved within Sars-Cov-2,” Anderson said. Not only does this remain unchanged between Covid variants, but also between other coronaviruses, such as Sars-1 and Mers. “It is very encouraging: if we see another emerging coronavirus it gives us an opportunity for a very rapid treatment,” she said.

Molnupiravir works in a different way, inserting itself into viral RNA — the genetic material at the heart of the virus — and causing errors that stop it replicating. But this mechanism is also unaffected by variants. Hazuda said: “It will be very challenging for the virus to evolve resistance.” Molnupiravir, like paxlovid, seems to work across different coronaviruses, but studies suggest it will also work against influenza — including the avian flu strains that scientists view as the biggest threat of a future pandemic.

The Covid wave is receding. Restrictions are being eased. But the virus itself has not gone away. There will be future outbreaks and future waves. Combined with vaccines, however, antivirals promise to help ensure that Covid never again causes the kind of death and disruption we have seen during the past two years. And if another virus rears its head, these drugs provide the starting point for a new pandemic defence.


All sounds very promising! Science. :datass:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Outrunner » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:12 am

FFS, my mum has it now. If I'm being honest, through this whole thing it's my parents health that has worried me more than my own. Fortunately she's been vaccinated and had the booster so hopefully she shouldn't be too badly affected.

Please do not post this in the "No Context" thread
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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Robbo-92 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:25 am

The state of those anti-vaxxers trying to arrest NHS staff and Police :dread:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Hexx » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:57 pm

twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1484944075337912321


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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Squinty » Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:27 pm

Oh god, don't normalise this gooseberry fool any further.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by kerr9000 » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:03 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1484944075337912321




Sounds like a great idea get loads of people who are unvaccinated and in some cases probably don't believe it exists or ever test to meet up and be around each other, I cant see any issues here at all.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by rinks » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:05 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1484944075337912321


Anybody with the sense to have the vaccine won’t volunteer to go into a studio deliberately populated with unvaccinated people, so it’s going to be a pretty unbalanced crowd.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Moggy » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:34 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1484944075337912321



Question Time will be in Chichester on Feb 10th and we're seeking those who have joined neo-Nazi organisations to share their views.

You can apply to be in the audience here: bbc.co.uk/send/u39697902 #bbcqt

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Zilnad » Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:53 pm

Think that Chichester link is broken, Moggy. I can't seem to get on it.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Tomous » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:20 pm

Says a lot that I can't tell if Moggy's post is a joke or not

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by hamm sandwich » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:58 pm

Isn’t one of the main reasons these people are refusing the vaccine the perception that the bbc spreads misinformation about the virus? Expecting a fully compliant and polite question time audience. With hat wearing status at a high percentage level.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by <]:^D » Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:27 pm

Zilnad wrote:Think that Chichester link is broken, Moggy. I can't seem to get on it.


worked for me; what are the exact steps youre doing?

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Zilnad » Sun Jan 23, 2022 7:07 pm

<]:^D wrote:
Zilnad wrote:Think that Chichester link is broken, Moggy. I can't seem to get on it.


worked for me; what are the exact steps youre doing?


Goose, I guess.


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