Coronavirus & stuff

speedboatchase wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:Hosting the Euros would be offensively stupid. Ridiculous suggestion.

What's the alternative for UEFA? Keep it spread out all over Europe? With fans (what percentage of the tickets have to be held back to deal with social distancing) / without fans? With tickets only available to people living in the host country? Cancel it?

I have no doubt that UEFA are doing Continuity Planning for it and if we can continue vaccinating at the current rate (and likely ramp up as the Modena, Novavax and Johnson & Johnson vaccines become available) then the UK does become a viable option if UEFA decide they'd like to try a somewhat normal event. And it being outdoors in June and July does make it lower risk than something like an indoor concert.

The target of all adults to have been offered a 1st dose by 31st July seems very easy. If this target is actually reached 3 weeks before the start of the Euros would you have a different view?

Best case scenario I can imagine would be it being held in one country with drastically reduced stadium fan capacity and some kind of air travel plan with x number of fans from each country, all required to be ticket holders and having undergone airport Covid testing.

More likely is that it will be held in one country with no fans. Or cancelled altogether. The latter would at least give the Tokyo Olympics organisers a little push before they inevitably cancel their event.

Grumpy David wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:Hosting the Euros would be offensively stupid. Ridiculous suggestion.

What's the alternative for UEFA? Keep it spread out all over Europe? With fans (what percentage of the tickets have to be held back to deal with social distancing) / without fans? With tickets only available to people living in the host country? Cancel it?

I have no doubt that UEFA are doing Continuity Planning for it and if we can continue vaccinating at the current rate (and likely ramp up as the Modena, Novavax and Johnson & Johnson vaccines become available) then the UK does become a viable option if UEFA decide they'd like to try a somewhat normal event. And it being outdoors in June and July does make it lower risk than something like an indoor concert.

The target of all adults to have been offered a 1st dose by 31st July seems very easy. If this target is actually reached 3 weeks before the start of the Euros would you have a different view?

Moggy wrote:

speedboatchase wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:

Corazon de Leon wrote:Hosting the Euros would be offensively stupid. Ridiculous suggestion.

What's the alternative for UEFA? Keep it spread out all over Europe? With fans (what percentage of the tickets have to be held back to deal with social distancing) / without fans? With tickets only available to people living in the host country? Cancel it?

I have no doubt that UEFA are doing Continuity Planning for it and if we can continue vaccinating at the current rate (and likely ramp up as the Modena, Novavax and Johnson & Johnson vaccines become available) then the UK does become a viable option if UEFA decide they'd like to try a somewhat normal event. And it being outdoors in June and July does make it lower risk than something like an indoor concert.

The target of all adults to have been offered a 1st dose by 31st July seems very easy. If this target is actually reached 3 weeks before the start of the Euros would you have a different view?

Best case scenario I can imagine would be it being held in one country with drastically reduced stadium fan capacity and some kind of air travel plan with x number of fans from each country, all required to be ticket holders and having undergone airport Covid testing.

More likely is that it will be held in one country with no fans. Or cancelled altogether. The latter would at least give the Tokyo Olympics organisers a little push before they inevitably cancel their event.

Yeah I think one country with no fans would be the solution. If the UK has vaccinated the vast majority of the population then we'd look like a good bet to be hosts.

Football hasn't stopped during the latest lockdown and so it doesn't seem ridiculous that the Euros could be held here.

twitter.com/MattSingh_/status/1363756546128248833

From BBC NEWS


From 8 March - All schools will open with outdoor after-school sports and activities allowed. Recreation in an outdoor public spaces - such as a park - will be allowed between two people, meaning they would be allowed to sit down for a coffee, drink or picnic

From 29 March - Outdoor gatherings of either six people or two households will be allowed. It is understood this will include gatherings in private gardens. Outdoor sports facilities such as tennis or basketball courts will reopen and organised adult and children's sport, such as grassroots football, will also return

Secondary school pupils will be required to wear face coverings in classrooms and shared spaces like corridors.

The second step comes from 12 April would see major parts of the economy permitted to reopen:

Non-essential retail opens, hairdressers and public buildings like libraries and museums
Outdoor settings like alcohol takeaways, beer gardens, zoos and theme parks
Indoor leisure like swimming pools and gyms
Self-contained holiday accommodation, such as self-catering and camp sites
But wider social contact rules will continue to apply in all settings - meaning no indoor mixing between different households will be allowed.

Funerals continue with up to 30 people, and weddings with up to 15 guests.

The third step will come from 17 May - if the data allows - and will see the "rule of six" abolished for outdoor gatherings, replaced with a limit of 30 people:

Two households can mix indoors - with the rule of six applied in hospitality settings like pubs
Cinemas, hotels, performances and sporting events reopen - though social distancing remains
Up to 10,000 spectators can attend the very largest outdoor seated venues like football stadiums
Up to 30 people will be able to attend weddings, receptions, funerals and wakes.

The fourth step from 21 June will potentially see all legal limits on social contact removed, with the final closed sectors of the economy reopened - such as nightclubs.

The government hopes that - from this date - restrictions on weddings and funerals will also be abolished.

The four conditions that must be met at each phase of lockdown easing are:

The coronavirus vaccine programme continues to go to plan

Evidence shows vaccines are sufficiently reducing the number of people dying with the virus or needing hospital treatment

Infection rates do not risk a surge in hospital admissions
New variants of the virus do not fundamentally change the risk of lifting restrictions

Benzin wrote:See the announcement is leaking through to see what the public opinion would be.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:12 April for gyms better than expected.

Benzin wrote:See the announcement is leaking through to see what the public opinion would be.

Huh? He started formally delivering it in the HoC 20 minutes ago.

Godzilla wrote:I can't see anything about restaurants?

Rex Kramer wrote:

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:12 April for gyms better than expected.

Benzin wrote:See the announcement is leaking through to see what the public opinion would be.

Huh? He started formally delivering it in the HoC 20 minutes ago.

It's been widely reported since first thing this morning via the usual routes (whatsapp to Laura K).