Coronavirus & stuff

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by DML » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:57 am

Sending love to you JJ. :wub:

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by Outrunner » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:12 pm

A kid in my nephews class has it so the whole class is learning from home. My niece has symptoms and has been for a test. My brother, who works for the school, as been told to stay at home. And my Aunt, who is in hospital after having had a heart attack, has tested positive. She was going to be sent to a home to help with her recovery but that has been postponed. She's been put on a different ward while she recovers.

This is why I find my work friends infuriating right now. We're essentially closed to the public (they can phone up for books then come in to collect them but not access the rest of the building) so everyone has decided not to wear their masks at work and they treat social distancing as a suggestion rather than a rule. I feel so unsafe I've used up some of my leave to avoid going in during lockdown. I hate slating them because they are my friends and usually very sensible but when it comes to covid they're being very complacent.

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by Grumpy David » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:13 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-now-95-effective-and-will-be-submitted-for-authorisation-within-days-12135473

COVID-19: Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine now 95% effective and will be submitted for authorisation 'within days'

Efficacy analysis also showed the jab is 94% effective at protecting over-65s from the virus.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine has now proved 95% effective in preventing coronavirus and has met the safety criteria needed for emergency authorisation, the firms have said.

Pfizer and BioNTech say they plan to submit the COVID-19 vaccine to the US regulator for emergency use approval "within days" before sharing with others around the world.

The UK regulator, the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), is poised to fast-track authorisation of the vaccine, which could mean it is rolled out to priority groups from mid-December.

Final efficacy analysis of the jab showed 95% were protected from the virus within 28 days of the first dose - up from when results of Phase 3 trials were shared last week.

It also proved 94% effective among adults over the age of 65 - who are generally more vulnerable.

"No serious safety concerns" were reported in the analysis, with only 2% of the 43,000 involved reporting a headache and 3.7% reporting fatigue, the companies said.

On 9 November, Pfizer became the first company in the world to complete Phase 3 of its coronavirus vaccine trials, which showed 90% efficacy.

The news was followed earlier this week by an announcement from US pharmaceutical firm Moderna that its own vaccine candidate had a similarly promising efficacy of 94.5%.

So far the UK government has ordered 40 million doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech jab - enough for 20 million people - and five million - for use on 2.5 million patients - of the Moderna one.

Pfizer chairman and chief executive Dr Albert Bourla said: "The study results mark an important step in this historic eight-month journey to bring forward a vaccine capable of helping to end this devastating pandemic.

"We continue to move at the speed of science to compile all the data collected thus far and share with regulators around the world."

Analysis: Most significant news yet provides massive tick in the COVID vaccine wish-list
By Thomas Moore, science correspondent

Of all the exciting recent news on COVID vaccines, this is perhaps the most significant of all.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine works in the people who need it the most. In the over-65s it was over 94% effective against the disease.

It's a massive tick in the wish-list for a vaccine.

The immune systems of older people don't generally work as well as those of the young.

But the latest data shows the vaccine is just about as effective in people of all ages.

The companies also say the overall effectiveness of the vaccine is now 95%, up from the 90% suggested by the interim analysis last week.

That's the same as the Moderna vaccine, which uses similar technology.

The clinical trials on just over 43,000 volunteers found no serious safety concerns. A few had headaches and fatigue, but that's not unusual for a vaccine.

One big scientific question remains. How long does immunity last? If people need regular booster doses that will stretch manufacturing capacity still further.

The answer to that will come from the ongoing monitoring of antibody and T-cell levels in people who have had the vaccine.

In the short term, the success of this vaccine will depend on the logistics.

Its activity depends on the dry ice and heavily insulated container that keeps it at minus 70C for up to 15 days. Raise the temperature by just 10 degrees and it may not work.

It's a smart and effective vaccine. Now the NHS and its suppliers need to get it where it's needed, and fast.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Hexx » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:18 pm

Toy stores now demanding to be classed as ‘essential’ retail :fp:

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by Corazon de Leon » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:32 pm

Hexx wrote:Toy stores now demanding to be classed as ‘essential’ retail :fp:


Depends on the type of toy I suppose...

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by Rex Kramer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:03 pm

Hexx wrote:Toy stores now demanding to be classed as ‘essential’ retail :fp:

To be fair to them, they are being shafted by the supermarkets who can still sell toys whilst they can't open.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by KK » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:05 pm

Are there any toy shops left apart from Smyths?!

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by Hexx » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:07 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
Hexx wrote:Toy stores now demanding to be classed as ‘essential’ retail :fp:

To be fair to them, they are being shafted by the supermarkets who can still sell toys whilst they can't open.


Which is why Wales’ approach was good but people threw a a shitfit :fp:

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by That » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:09 pm

Wales was right to try to regulate what could be sold in supermarkets during lockdown. The criticism of the policy was politically constructed and not reasonable.

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by Dual » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:12 pm

If someone in my household is waiting for a test result, do I need to stay in the house? Can I go to the shops for food?

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by Victor Mildew » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:13 pm

The Wales thing made sense, it just LOOKED stupid, so was jumped on. I'm sure if those items were totally gone, or things were moved to one section with the rest of the shop closed off, people wouldn't have been so critical.

If anyone wonders why Amazon get such a free ride from the government at the moment, if you didn't know, they are the ones distributing the home test kits through their network.

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by Victor Mildew » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:14 pm

Dual wrote:If someone in my household is waiting for a test result, do I need to stay in the house? Can I go to the shops for food?


I think you should stay in, but I could be wrong.

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by That » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:14 pm

Dual wrote:If someone in my household is waiting for a test result, do I need to stay in the house? Can I go to the shops for food?

I'm not sure about the legal requirement, but you can get supermarket deliveries short-notice via Deliveroo in many areas. Thought it might help to let you know in case you do have to stay in. (Sounds like you probably should if possible, though I understand the need to buy food, obviously!)

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by Errkal » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:17 pm

Hexx wrote:Toy stores now demanding to be classed as ‘essential’ retail :fp:


If only there was interweb thing they could use to sell on.

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by Rex Kramer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:20 pm

Dual wrote:If someone in my household is waiting for a test result, do I need to stay in the house? Can I go to the shops for food?

I might be wrong here but if they don't have symptoms but are waiting for a test result then I don't think you have to self isolate (unless the test comes back positive). If they have symptoms then I think you do have to isolate.

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by SEP » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:21 pm

Karl_ wrote:Wales was right to try to regulate what could be sold in supermarkets during lockdown. The criticism of the policy was politically constructed and not reasonable.


I thought the shitfit was because Tesco decided tampons and sanitary towels were non-essential?

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by That » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:24 pm

Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Karl_ wrote:Wales was right to try to regulate what could be sold in supermarkets during lockdown. The criticism of the policy was politically constructed and not reasonable.


I thought the shitfit was because Tesco decided tampons and sanitary towels were non-essential?


I was referring to the party-political criticism of the Senedd over the policy. I heard about that story - period products were rightly classified as essential by the Senedd, and Tesco deserved to be strongly criticised for making the mistake of classifying them as non-essential in that store.

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by mcjihge2 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:53 pm

https://www.otsnews.co.uk/soldiers-post-tripadvisor-reviews-of-pontins/

Army personnel allegedly part of the soldier encampment at Pontins Ainsdale have started leaving mixed reviews of the infamous holiday park.

Army personnel have been camping at the Pontins site on Shore Road in Ainsdale, with the one squaddie saying the resort was worse than living in war-torn Afghanistan.

Another said the holiday park was nowhere near as good as Camp Bastion in Helmand Province.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Fade » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:25 pm

Okay that's pretty funny

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by captain red dog » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:33 pm

strawberry floating hell, they could have at least put them in Butlins.


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