Cost of Living - How are you handling it?

Tomous wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:

BID0 wrote:

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My dad a wealthy pensioner lives in France and is tight, maybe I should show him this lol.

Don't let the French see that. 4% price increase?! They'll be protesting

too true

Cuttooth wrote:

Tomous wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:

BID0 wrote:

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My dad a wealthy pensioner lives in France and is tight, maybe I should show him this lol.

Don't let the French see that. 4% price increase?! They'll be protesting

It would be much higher if they didn’t protest.

Indeed. We need to be more like them.

Qikz wrote:

ITSMILNER wrote:Great, freeze to death in the dark

Not my favourite MCR song but it's a banger.

Underrated comment

jawa_ wrote:Too soon, Jen... too soon.

I am joking.

We do really need some major action from government on this, but I'm not holding my breath

Tomous wrote:

Cuttooth wrote:

Tomous wrote:

Green Gecko wrote:

BID0 wrote:

twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1557035304690896898

My dad a wealthy pensioner lives in France and is tight, maybe I should show him this lol.

Don't let the French see that. 4% price increase?! They'll be protesting

It would be much higher if they didn’t protest.

Indeed. We need to be more like them.

(There's a fantastic video clip or GIF of a French protester just randomly tossing a tyre over a fence, but sadly I have never been able to find it.)

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

BID0 wrote:

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Wow I just don't get how there ran ahead with furlough, something I didn't benefit from, but aren't considering spending money on this. The cost can't be anywhere near as much as what was spent on furlough surely. Giving each household a few hundred pounds each month on their energy bill as opposed to thousands of pounds.

It’s mainly because back then Labour provided opposition by drawing up furlough proposals and applying pressure on the government to enact them. And then when watered down versions were almost implemented they kept pushing for more people to be covered by expanding the support about to be offered

Now we don’t have that opposition

And what is it France has that we don’t? Nationalised publicly owned power! Can’t find it now but saw a good video on TikTok saying how EDF in France pumps their profits (as well as the profits from the UK arm of EDF(!!!)) into keeping consumer prices down. What a shocking concept.

Edit found it: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNpmK1s9/?k=1

Wait, you're telling me privatisation didn't benefit everyone?!

BID0 wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

BID0 wrote:

twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1557035304690896898

Wow I just don't get how there ran ahead with furlough, something I didn't benefit from, but aren't considering spending money on this. The cost can't be anywhere near as much as what was spent on furlough surely. Giving each household a few hundred pounds each month on their energy bill as opposed to thousands of pounds.

It’s mainly because back then Labour provided opposition by drawing up furlough proposals and applying pressure on the government to enact them. And then when watered down versions were almost implemented they kept pushing for more people to be covered by expanding the support about to be offered

Now we don’t have that opposition

Ed Davey has been doing this.

No idea why Starmer isn't.

Tomous wrote:

BID0 wrote:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

BID0 wrote:

twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1557035304690896898

Wow I just don't get how there ran ahead with furlough, something I didn't benefit from, but aren't considering spending money on this. The cost can't be anywhere near as much as what was spent on furlough surely. Giving each household a few hundred pounds each month on their energy bill as opposed to thousands of pounds.

It’s mainly because back then Labour provided opposition by drawing up furlough proposals and applying pressure on the government to enact them. And then when watered down versions were almost implemented they kept pushing for more people to be covered by expanding the support about to be offered

Now we don’t have that opposition

Ed Davey has been doing this.

No idea why Starmer isn't.

Yeh he really should be. That’s the whole point of being a shadow government and why we pay him and his government with our tax money, you can change things without being in power. I guess he is too worried about what the newspapers might say.

Jenuall wrote:Wait, you're telling me privatisation didn't benefit everyone?!

I know right

OrangeRKN wrote:

Qikz wrote:

ITSMILNER wrote:Great, freeze to death in the dark

Not my favourite MCR song but it's a banger.

Underrated comment

I'm glad someone appreciated it.

Johnny Ryall wrote:And what is it France has that we don’t? Nationalised publicly owned power! Can’t find it now but saw a good video on TikTok saying how EDF in France pumps their profits (as well as the profits from the UK arm of EDF(!!!)) into keeping consumer prices down. What a shocking concept.

Edit found it: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNpmK1s9/?k=1

Our government's response to this is that France has screwed itself over in the long run, as apparently they've scared off investors, which will mean the French people will be clobbered further down the line.

I'm not sure which I'd prefer, suffering right now and later or not suffering right now but potentially suffering later, according to a Tory bullshit merchant.

Gordon Brown - incredibly - has been more credible opposition than Kier Starmer that last couple of days. Mick Lynch is the opposition, Ed Davey is the opposition. Starmer’s a watered down Tory who is hilariously unelectable.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Johnny Ryall wrote:And what is it France has that we don’t? Nationalised publicly owned power! Can’t find it now but saw a good video on TikTok saying how EDF in France pumps their profits (as well as the profits from the UK arm of EDF(!!!)) into keeping consumer prices down. What a shocking concept.

Edit found it: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNpmK1s9/?k=1

Our government's response to this is that France has screwed itself over in the long run, as apparently they've scared off investors, which will mean the French people will be clobbered further down the line.

I'm not sure which I'd prefer, suffering right now and later or not suffering right now but potentially suffering later, according to a Tory bullshit merchant.

It's absolute shite. France has nationalised energy, it's not like a private company can be scared off of investing in a sector it's unable to invest in.

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Our government's response to this is that France has screwed itself over in the long run, as apparently they've scared off investors, which will mean the French people will be clobbered further down the line.

Which sounds like nonsense, because if utilities are state owned you don't need private investors - you invest public money (and it goes further because you aren't paying dividends).

EDIT: wot moggy sed

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Johnny Ryall wrote:And what is it France has that we don’t? Nationalised publicly owned power! Can’t find it now but saw a good video on TikTok saying how EDF in France pumps their profits (as well as the profits from the UK arm of EDF(!!!)) into keeping consumer prices down. What a shocking concept.

Edit found it: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNpmK1s9/?k=1

Our government's response to this is that France has screwed itself over in the long run, as apparently they've scared off investors, which will mean the French people will be clobbered further down the line.

I'm not sure which I'd prefer, suffering right now and later or not suffering right now but potentially suffering later, according to a Tory bullshit merchant.

The stupid thing about that argument by them is that it's EDF that invest in the UK a lot, so we have to rely on them

The French model is definitely the right one for me. Power should be publicly owned. Labour should have taken it back under public ownership when they were in power.

I saw other comments saying that France can do it as they rely on their own nuclear energy instead of importing via gas lines.

Why didn't we do that? Radiation fearmongering? Austerity?

Don't know the history behind where we are, just know we've strawberry floated it.

Johnny Ryall wrote:I saw other comments saying that France can do it as they rely on their own nuclear energy instead of importing via gas lines.

Why didn't we do that? Radiation fearmongering? Austerity?

Don't know the history behind where we are, just know we've strawberry floated it.

We have a few nuclear plants, but without a publically owned energy supplier we have to rely on foreign companies such as EDF to build em. And they really couldn't give a gooseberry fool about the UK market.

Supermarkets are not cutting fuel prices by as much as they should do to match the "significant" drop in the cost of wholesale fuel, the RAC has said.

The gap between retail and wholesale prices, excluding VAT, is the widest since the RAC started monitoring them in 2013.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62494404