Dad, I’ve something to tell you...

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I sold out. Once many years ago... I went into a wine bar.

....

That's it? You went into a wine bar?

Keep it down, keep it down! Don't want the whole world to know.

Jenuall wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I sold out. Once many years ago... I went into a wine bar.

....

That's it? You went into a wine bar?

Keep it down, keep it down! Don't want the whole world to know.

Well, what's so bad about going into a... WB?

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I sold out. Once many years ago... I went into a wine bar.

....

That's it? You went into a wine bar?

Keep it down, keep it down! Don't want the whole world to know.

Well, what's so bad about going into a... WB?

Gerald already found someone else to be his squash partner .

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I sold out. Once many years ago... I went into a wine bar.

....

That's it? You went into a wine bar?

Keep it down, keep it down! Don't want the whole world to know.

Well, what's so bad about going into a... WB?

Gerald already found someone else to be his squash partner .

Lucky escape!

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


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Curls wrote:Do you tell her that she can support Man United if she wants to?

Of course not, she already goads her cousins (manu fans as are most of her school) about how bad they've been and of course No. 6. She knows all the chants, although its now "we won the feckin lot". Start of last school year she went schoolbag shopping with the Wife and chose this (much to my surprise and pride):

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:

Vermilion wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I sold out. Once many years ago... I went into a wine bar.

....

That's it? You went into a wine bar?

Keep it down, keep it down! Don't want the whole world to know.

Well, what's so bad about going into a... WB?

Gerald already found someone else to be his squash partner .

At least he got to drive home in his Audi TT.

I think I've always had left leaning views, both my parents are Labour voters and utterly despised Margaret Thatcher, both lived and worked in Saudi Arabia and always say how much they enjoyed the experience of working alongside people from countries like Ethiopia, Sri Lanka and Malaysia so was always aware that things like race and religion were no reason to treat anyone differently.

Also I think being disabled has influenced my view of the world, especially when I learned of the appalling and frankly evil attitude the Nazis had towards disability in general (and their other countless atrocities they committed).

Ironhide wrote:I think I've always had left leaning views, both my parents are Labour voters and utterly despised Margaret Thatcher,

I was brainwashed as a kid as well. My mum is very proud that whenever Maggie T was on TV I would say “horrible lady!”. They weren’t my first words, but probably close.

As a tribute I taught my son to say “horrible lady” whenever Theresa May was in TV.

Heskimo wrote:

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


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I'd like to retract that statement. I'm not completely idiot. strawberry float ye all.

Moggy wrote:

Ironhide wrote:I think I've always had left leaning views, both my parents are Labour voters and utterly despised Margaret Thatcher,

I was brainwashed as a kid as well. My mum is very proud that whenever Maggie T was on TV I would say “horrible lady!”. They weren’t my first words, but probably close.

As a tribute I taught my son to say “horrible lady” whenever Theresa May was in TV.

Someone my dad knew once threw a knife at his TV when Thatcher was on the news, he was a proper, card carrying Communist though .

Poor bloke dropped dead at work at the age of 32 after a sudden cardiac arrest. - not connected to the above incident.

Squinty wrote:

Heskimo wrote:

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


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I'd like to retract that statement. I'm not completely idiot. strawberry float ye all.

Sure about that?

What’s the deal with Pewdewpie? I don’t really follow streamers at all but thought he was just an idiot who makes loud noises while playing games for “entertainment”. I saw the controversy when he said ****** but assumed he was just going for the shock angle. What’s the deal with the far right angle? It’s gotta be pretty dangerous considering his appeal is mainly teenage boys.

Pedz wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Heskimo wrote:

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


edit - just seen no context thread fuuuuuu

I'd like to retract that statement. I'm not completely idiot. strawberry float ye all.

Sure about that?

That's.....kinda the joke duder.

Squinty wrote:

Pedz wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Heskimo wrote:

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


edit - just seen no context thread fuuuuuu

I'd like to retract that statement. I'm not completely idiot. strawberry float ye all.

Sure about that?

That's.....kinda the joke duder.

The Staydead defence, eh?

Pedz wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Pedz wrote:

Squinty wrote:

Heskimo wrote:

Squinty wrote:I know I was completely idiot around that age.

Quite.


edit - just seen no context thread fuuuuuu

I'd like to retract that statement. I'm not completely idiot. strawberry float ye all.

Sure about that?

That's.....kinda the joke duder.

The Staydead defence, eh?

Aye

Tomous wrote:What’s the deal with Pewdewpie? I don’t really follow streamers at all but thought he was just an idiot who makes loud noises while playing games for “entertainment”. I saw the controversy when he said ****** but assumed he was just going for the shock angle. What’s the deal with the far right angle? It’s gotta be pretty dangerous considering his appeal is mainly teenage boys.

Karl_ wrote:Pewdiepie and his obsession with racist jokes and "triggered SJWs" - much the same as Jordan Peterson and his rants on "neo-Marxist feminism" - are the public-facing edge of a wormhole that leads you through alt-right commentators like Ben Shapiro, then fake news sites like Breitbart and InfoWars, and finally onto the anonymous imageboards where these attacks are openly planned by white supremacists.

Karl_ wrote:Pewdiepie's rhetoric is inflammatory and dangerous, and that his content teeters just on the edge of a dark hole that, if fallen into, can lead (usually) disaffected young white men towards the alt-right and eventually onto the anonymous channels where these attacks are openly lauded and sometimes even planned.

Karl put this better than I could - people like him are a gateway of dogwhistle right-wing politics. That article about the kid is a unique example, but having studied hacktivist groups who were the predecessors to this for several years (who ironically were way more left-leaning than the people who now occupy their old haunts like 4ch*n) the process is definitely there. It starts with edgy/ironic memes that are defended through onion-like layers of irony but it can quickly develop through social media algorithms giving you more of what you go after, as Karl says, which leads to pretty dark places.

I thought the bit in that article about how when the kid met these people they were a load of losers compared to their suave fedora-tipping online personas, which is an interesting indictment. This kind of right wing politics is built out of isolation, both imposed on a group/society and on the individual. It was really sad to read about how that kid felt so isolated while participating, and having spent a LOT of time on the internet in the wee small hours during particularly down times in my life, I can see how this kind of thing appeals to provide answers and rationality - you don't have a job because the jews/immigrants took them all, you don't have a girlfriend because women are duplicitous vipers, etc. It's easier to externalise the blame than look honestly at yourself.

Tomous wrote:What’s the deal with Pewdewpie? I don’t really follow streamers at all but thought he was just an idiot who makes loud noises while playing games for “entertainment”. I saw the controversy when he said n-word but assumed he was just going for the shock angle. What’s the deal with the far right angle? It’s gotta be pretty dangerous considering his appeal is mainly teenage boys.

suzzopher wrote:I’m a white nationalist!

That was a conversation that took place tonight whilst I had taken my son out for a driving lesson. Basically I was talking about how sick I am with the rise of the right, my son said “we’re winning, accept it” obviously I questioned what he meant and he explained how he identifies with white nationalism and the far right.

When my daughter came out as gay when she was 15, people said “how did you take it?” I didn’t care as long as she’s happy, but I can’t feel that way about my son, I love him but he goes against everything I am. I’m not sure how we move on from it either

strawberry float. I can only imagine how sickening that must have felt. I hope he grows out of it. Hopefully his mum will, over time, talk some sense into him. You too, when you're able to.

I know I certainly went through an "anti-PC" phase when I was younger, and I bet probably a majority of adolescent males did the same. The problem is, back then, that meant watching South Park and pushing the boundaries of "edgy" jokes.

Now, there's a deep rabbit hole of a prominent, extreme political movement to be fallen down from the same starting position.