Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by more heat than light » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:33 pm

I don't think I've ever failed to beat her. One of the easier bosses IMO.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hexx » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:35 pm

If you want to easy mode her use Lightening

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by The Watching Artist » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:39 pm

Karl_ wrote:@Matt: Can we gently prod Jawa towards Quelaag please? It's torture being so close for days on end, I can only stay hard for so long.

No.

He has a few places he can go now but obviously if he goes miles off we will nudge him back.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Jenuall » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:39 pm

Green Gecko wrote:I also summoned Mildred for that, can't remember being super hard but I think I was OP'd at that point as I came to Blighttown late.

Jenuall wrote:I've yet to do any summoning as I've been playing offline. I'm at the point where I'm kind of hoping to get through without needing to!


You can sometimes summon NPCs you meet or save in the game, such as Solaire. Look out for the markers on the ground.

Hmm, I thought you couldn't summon at allif you were offline for some reason. Either way I basically never use humanity so I don't think I've spotted the markers!

I don't think that Quelaag was especially hard, just in my run she was probably the hardest thingup until that point. I certainly found the Gargoyles easier!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by That » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:42 pm

Maybe it's my playstyle, but I think O&S is easier for where you are in the game then than Quelaag. In fact, I'm tempted to argue that the bosses all get strictly easier as you advance through the story. (Maybe with the exception of the DLC?) Like, a lot of late game bosses like Nito or the Bed of Chaos or whatever just aren't even remotely challenging no matter how you approach them.

Obviously Quelaag is "easy" if you approach her in the right way (which I obviously wasn't as I kept rolling at the wrong time and getting caught out by that stupid sweeping sword attack :slol: ) but that's true of every boss in the game.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:46 pm

I haven't read any of that spoilored stuff... I just can't... Matt won't allow it :slol: .

A thought occurred to me earlier, though - I recall that when Matt was streaming his Dark Souls II playthrough, he was able to warp to different bonfires (that he'd previously reached) at will. Is that possible in this first DS game?

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Green Gecko » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:48 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:I also summoned Mildred for that, can't remember being super hard but I think I was OP'd at that point as I came to Blighttown late.

Jenuall wrote:I've yet to do any summoning as I've been playing offline. I'm at the point where I'm kind of hoping to get through without needing to!


You can sometimes summon NPCs you meet or save in the game, such as Solaire. Look out for the markers on the ground.

Hmm, I thought you couldn't summon at allif you were offline for some reason. Either way I basically never use humanity so I don't think I've spotted the markers!

I don't think that Quelaag was especially hard, just in my run she was probably the hardest thingup until that point. I certainly found the Gargoyles easier!

Well, it would be pretty shitty if you couldn't summon NPCs even if you're offline. I think that mechanism is in there for people with really bad ping or no internet, for the most past. You don't need to place a summoning stone or anything, they just show up on the ground.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comm ... line_mode/

Didn't know this but apparently Solaire's summon sign will only show up if you're human.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hexx » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:49 pm

Karl_ wrote:Maybe it's my playstyle, but I think O&S is easier for where you are in the game then than Quelaag. In fact, I'm tempted to argue that the bosses all get strictly easier as you advance through the story. (Maybe with the exception of the DLC?) Like, a lot of late game bosses like Nito or the Bed of Chaos or whatever just aren't even remotely challenging no matter how you approach them.

Obviously Quelaag is "easy" if you approach her in the right way (which I obviously wasn't as I kept rolling at the wrong time and getting caught out by that stupid sweeping sword attack :slol: ) but that's true of every boss in the game.


I'm not sure yourthe guy to get the pacing of the gameright :lol:

I think she's easy if you've been following the "normal" route, and beaten, not brute forced bosses.

She does nothing new - except an AoE. She's more obvious in her telegraphed melee attacks and they're more easily avoidable, but doesn't add any anything to therepitoire other bosses haven't done except maybe the AoE. Her melee range/reach is bad. She's a problem if you stayat range I suppose.

She might need practice, but she's a much less steep learning curve/barrier to progress than Tarus (first real boss to learn), Gargoyles (2v1! So mean!) and Capra (the pain oh the pain)

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Jenuall » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:53 pm

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Jenuall wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:I also summoned Mildred for that, can't remember being super hard but I think I was OP'd at that point as I came to Blighttown late.

Jenuall wrote:I've yet to do any summoning as I've been playing offline. I'm at the point where I'm kind of hoping to get through without needing to!


You can sometimes summon NPCs you meet or save in the game, such as Solaire. Look out for the markers on the ground.

Hmm, I thought you couldn't summon at allif you were offline for some reason. Either way I basically never use humanity so I don't think I've spotted the markers!

I don't think that Quelaag was especially hard, just in my run she was probably the hardest thingup until that point. I certainly found the Gargoyles easier!

Well, it would be pretty shitty if you couldn't summon NPCs even if you're offline. I think that mechanism is in there for people with really bad ping or no internet, for the most past. You don't need to place a summoning stone or anything, they just show up on the ground.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comm ... line_mode/

Didn't know this but apparently Solaire's summon sign will only show up if you're human.

Yeah that was my thinking - hence why I haven't seem him due to my lack of humanity!

Karl_ wrote:Maybe it's my playstyle, but I think O&S is easier for where you are in the game then than Quelaag. In fact, I'm tempted to argue that the bosses all get strictly easier as you advance through the story. (Maybe with the exception of the DLC?) Like, a lot of late game bosses like Nito or the Bed of Chaos or whatever just aren't even remotely challenging no matter how you approach them.

Obviously Quelaag is "easy" if you approach her in the right way (which I obviously wasn't as I kept rolling at the wrong time and getting caught out by that stupid sweeping sword attack :slol: ) but that's true of every boss in the game.

I would agree with this line of thinking, none of the recent bosses have troubled me much compared to some of the earlier stuff. I think maybe Sif has been the most challenging so far for me, but that was because I was just being too impatient!

I had way more trouble in DS3 than I have in this so far, but I suspect I may have managed to git a little but more gud since that time.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by That » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:54 pm

@Hexx: Yeah well Capra is easy af and you're a lame crybaby, THERE I SAID IT

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hexx » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:57 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:I also summoned Mildred for that, can't remember being super hard but I think I was OP'd at that point as I came to Blighttown late.

Jenuall wrote:I've yet to do any summoning as I've been playing offline. I'm at the point where I'm kind of hoping to get through without needing to!


You can sometimes summon NPCs you meet or save in the game, such as Solaire. Look out for the markers on the ground.

Hmm, I thought you couldn't summon at allif you were offline for some reason. Either way I basically never use humanity so I don't think I've spotted the markers!

I don't think that Quelaag was especially hard, just in my run she was probably the hardest thingup until that point. I certainly found the Gargoyles easier!

Well, it would be pretty shitty if you couldn't summon NPCs even if you're offline. I think that mechanism is in there for people with really bad ping or no internet, for the most past. You don't need to place a summoning stone or anything, they just show up on the ground.

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls/comm ... line_mode/

Didn't know this but apparently Solaire's summon sign will only show up if you're human.

Yeah that was my thinking - hence why I haven't seem him due to my lack of humanity!

Karl_ wrote:Maybe it's my playstyle, but I think O&S is easier for where you are in the game then than Quelaag. In fact, I'm tempted to argue that the bosses all get strictly easier as you advance through the story. (Maybe with the exception of the DLC?) Like, a lot of late game bosses like Nito or the Bed of Chaos or whatever just aren't even remotely challenging no matter how you approach them.

Obviously Quelaag is "easy" if you approach her in the right way (which I obviously wasn't as I kept rolling at the wrong time and getting caught out by that stupid sweeping sword attack :slol: ) but that's true of every boss in the game.

I would agree with this line of thinking, none of the recent bosses have troubled me much compared to some of the earlier stuff. I think maybe Sif has been the most challenging so far for me, but that was because I was just being too impatient!

I had way more trouble in DS3 than I have in this so far, but I suspect I may have managed to git a little but more gud since that time.


The bosses in D3 are mechanically much more varied. As they are also (basically) on a set path they can be balanced much more tightly as well. DS1 you can do a lot of things in any order so they're's not always a sense of progression.

Good luck with 4 kings!/ I'm sure you'll be fine

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hexx » Wed Jun 05, 2019 3:58 pm

Karl_ wrote:@Hexx: Yeah well Capra is easy af and you're a lame crybaby, THERE I SAID IT


Someone's jelly they didn't think of the throw things from outside strategy :roll:

Also - early on you were trash talking me for being magic... how do you think magic and cast times do against Capra and dogs! :roll:

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Jenuall » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Forget Dark Souls Remastered this thread is turning into Dark Souls Redacted!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Green Gecko » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:32 pm

This never was the Dark Souls Remastered thread, it was just Dark Souls The Thread 2nd Edition.

Anyone playing the remaster instead of dsxfix supersampled from 4k at 60fps with a DS4 is doing it wrong.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:29 pm

Yeeeeah! I made it out of Blighttown :D :toot: .

On the way, I met the Quelaag boss :shock: . I had a few goes at defeating her but couldn't manage it at this time. Anyway, we explored more of Blighttown and - eventually - I made my way up... and up... and out! Into the mountains of Londor! I saw a huge dragon and I wasn't sure if it was dead; I skirted around it and saw five smaller blue dragons in the distance :o . I veered away from them and found my way back through a shortcut to the Firelink Shrine :toot: .

I then used a Firelink Soul the correct way this time i.e. reiniforced my Estus flask by speaking to the girl in the cave rather than just using it to get some souls! And I also visited the blacksmith to repair all my damaged gear.

A terrific session and, once again, thanks to the folks who cheered, jeered and provided the odd pointer :wub: .

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Green Gecko » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:32 pm

I think what you've found is the Valley of the Drakes? The undead dragon is an optional "boss', but you can just spam it with arrows until it dies.

You can tackle those smaller drakes one at a time using a shield with high lightning resistance but don't bother taking on 2 or 3.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:34 pm

Green Gecko wrote:I think what you've found is the Valley of the Drakes?...

Oh! Yeah, that was it :lol: :oops: .

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hexx » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:18 am

jawafour wrote:Yeeeeah! I made it out of Blighttown :D :toot: .

On the way, I met the Quelaag boss :shock: . I had a few goes at defeating her but couldn't manage it at this time. Anyway, we explored more of Blighttown and - eventually - I made my way up... and up... and out! Into the mountains of Londor! I saw a huge dragon and I wasn't sure if it was dead; I skirted around it and saw five smaller blue dragons in the distance :o . I veered away from them and found my way back through a shortcut to the Firelink Shrine :toot: .

I then used a Firelink Soul the correct way this time i.e. reiniforced my Estus flask by speaking to the girl in the cave rather than just using it to get some souls! And I also visited the blacksmith to repair all my damaged gear.

A terrific session and, once again, thanks to the folks who cheered, jeered and provided the odd pointer :wub: .


So that shortcut can be gone through with the master key - so you can "sneak" down to Quelaag as your first boss if you really wanted!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Jenuall » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:21 am

Quelaag as the first boss? Nah, too easy m8 - completed that bare handed.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by That » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:40 am

It might be fun to do Quelaag first, but I've never figured out a compelling reason to -- the Demon Ruins don't have too much interesting in. I guess if you really want the Chaos Servant pyromancies? Or the Gold-Hemmed Black Set?

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