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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Green Gecko » Wed May 15, 2019 2:04 pm

I upgraded the halberd to plus 6, I still haven't ventured into Annor Londo, but that weapon is great. I also got an early black knight sword and boosf stats to use them both interchangeably, and ocassionally a katana or schimitar.


The drake sword is fine for a few hours but don't put any dragon scales into it because it stops scaling quickly and becomes a dead end.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm

I had heard about the Drake sword and I know that you gain it by repeatedly shooting at the bridge dragon's tail but, by most accounts, it's only good for a while as it can't "scale up". I don't think I'll be venturing back there to get it!

Doing a bit more investigating, it appears that everyone has alternative viewpoints on what skills should be levelled up and, in many cases, the ideas can be contradictory! I think I'll try and put my next few points into STR and DEX.

When I next play, I plan on doing a bit of souls grinding for levelling up and/or weapon upgrading at the blacksmiths. The past few sessions I've been exploring and tackling beasts and I've not kept any souls, so I've not upgraded anything for a while. So, I'll be trying to kill things, collect souls and return alive!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by IAmTheSaladMan » Wed May 15, 2019 2:29 pm

The beauty of this game is there is really no wrong or right way to play it. For the most part you find what works for you and stick with. I always gravitate toward a high strength high stamina tank using primarily heavy armour, swords and a shield plus the Cloranthy Ring to boost my equipment load so I can block almost anything but still move pretty fluidly. I find dabbling a little with pyromancy comes in handy too, particularly in later playthroughs.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Cheeky Devlin » Wed May 15, 2019 2:36 pm

jawafour wrote:I had heard about the Drake sword and I know that you gain it by repeatedly shooting at the bridge dragon's tail but, by most accounts, it's only good for a while as it can't "scale up". I don't think I'll be venturing back there to get it!

Doing a bit more investigating, it appears that everyone has alternative viewpoints on what skills should be levelled up and, in many cases, the ideas can be contradictory! I think I'll try and put my next few points into STR and DEX.

When I next play, I plan on doing a bit of souls grinding for levelling up and/or weapon upgrading at the blacksmiths. The past few sessions I've been exploring and tackling beasts and I've not kept any souls, so I've not upgraded anything for a while. So, I'll be trying to kill things, collect souls and return alive!

The bonfire at the blacksmith is a great place to do some grinding. Do circuits of the church wiping everyone out then go rest to respawn. Rinse-repeat for a little while. It'd good practice for combat, especially worth practising backstabs.

Did you let the guy out of his cell in the church? If not search around for him and let him out. You'll can get something good after you do.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Parksey » Wed May 15, 2019 2:37 pm

I think Resistance is the only stat you really need to avoid

If you are leaving both STR and DEX though, make sure you're using a weapon that scales with both. I've never really made a joint build like that, I usually go for fast, nimble DEX characters with plenty of stamina. The exception being my current first pkaythriigh if DS2, when I've gone with a STR tank and absolutely obliterating bosses with careful dodges and a heavy R2 attack.

And I didn't mind the Gargoyle fight. The DS2 one is worse (though late game enough that you can be pretty powerful, so I was able to reduce the numbers quicker). Man-eater from Demon's was probably harder too, if you attempted it earlier.

I agree that the other boss fight example is better, as it juxtaposes two different styles more, but I don't feel like the gargoyles are too bad, as long as you're patient and good at dodging. Like I said, the trick is dodging and baiting so you can get them to attack and be vulerable at the same time. Learning how to dodge past them, retreat and recharge stamina was the key for me, baiting them and keeping distance until I saw an opening to hit one. It helps if you can deal good DPS when it's just the solitary enemy at the start.

Spoilers for general Soulsborne boss talk:

It's weird, as I find the traditionally "hard" bosses of the series a little easier than what most people say. I did Fume Knight and Blue Smelter Demon and didn't have too much trouble. Fume Knight I must have died a dozen times, but it was always a stupid mistake. I actually thought it was a really enjoyable battle. The Blue Smelter Demon I beat tonight on my second go. He hits hard and delays his attacks, but not jumping the gun and being good at dodges meant DS 2's i-frames did the rest.

I found Sinh and the gank squad in the first DLC harder (I aware I'm talking about a different game here). Just like I found Maria harder than Orphan or Lawrence in BB.

Like I said before, I wonder if playing Bloodborne first has made the older games a bit easier to approach. I don't use a shield and through 100 hours on BB I got good at dodging trouble rather than blocking it. The enemies in BB are generally much quicker and much more aggressive and a lot of Dark Soul's enemies were big, slow and hard-hitting. A lot of DS 2's enemies were big armoured blokes with massive weapons.

DS3 is now my last title left in the series and obviously the only one made after BB. It'll be interesting if I find that harder seeing as the developers might have mixed things up a bit.

To be honest, having only played through each game once, I reckon the hardest boss in terms of number of attempts for me, is still Fazza Gazza. That fight made me the man I am today.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed May 15, 2019 2:56 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:The bonfire at the blacksmith is a great place to do some grinding. Do circuits of the church wiping everyone out then go rest to respawn. Rinse-repeat for a little while. It'd good practice for combat, especially worth practising backstabs...

Yeah, it seems like I'm in a good spot to grind, CD. Will give it a go later :toot: .

Cheeky Devlin wrote:...Did you let the guy out of his cell in the church? If not search around for him and let him out. You'll can get something good after you do.

I did help him by unlocking the door, but nothing seemed to happen. He made it sound as if he'd help me out "later".

Parksey wrote:...the trick is dodging and baiting so you can get (the Gargoyles) to attack and be vulerable at the same time. Learning how to dodge past them, retreat and recharge stamina was the key for me, baiting them and keeping distance until I saw an opening to hit one. It helps if you can deal good DPS when it's just the solitary enemy at the start too.

Thanks, Parksey - I plan on levelling / upgrading a wee bit before I then return to tackling the Gargoyle(s). Hopefully I'll be a bit tougher next time!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by IAmTheSaladMan » Wed May 15, 2019 3:01 pm

As for the prisoner
Try going back to Firelink


Speaking of freeing people, I'm really pleased there's no real equivalent of Yurt in this.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed May 15, 2019 7:46 pm



> Slowly... quietly...




> Walls are not always solid




> A long way down

Enjoyed a terrific session this afternoon; I grinded Souls so that I could add a point to both my Stength and Dexterity skills, and also increase my Longsword to +2 :toot: . It didn't all go to plan, though... thank you to Grum for capturing these clips :wub: .

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Ad7 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:02 pm

That last clip :lol:

You don't seem to use lock on much, I'd highly recommend it for most situations.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by OldSoulCyborg » Wed May 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Ad7 wrote:That last clip :lol:

You don't seem to use lock on much, I'd highly recommend it for most situations.


Honestly, anticipating this:

jawafour wrote:There's lock on!?

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed May 15, 2019 8:49 pm

OldSoulCyborg wrote:
Ad7 wrote:...You don't seem to use lock on much, I'd highly recommend it for most situations.

Honestly, anticipating this:
jawafour wrote:There's lock on!?

...you guys :roll: :lol: . I use lock-on nearly all the time :toot: .

I've started uploading my vids from Twitch to YouTube... err, just in case anyone wants to see my "skillz".

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Ad7 » Wed May 15, 2019 8:50 pm

Btw if youve got this far, you'll definitely be able to crack on with bloodborne after.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Wed May 15, 2019 8:57 pm

Ad7 wrote:Btw if youve got this far, you'll definitely be able to crack on with bloodborne after.

Thanks, man. I gotta admit that I'm pleased with how far I've got; I know I'm not exactly breaking new ground, but I've got further than I expected to and that feels good :-) . I'm ready to tackle DS II, DS III and Bloodborne in the future!

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Ad7 » Wed May 15, 2019 10:30 pm

Its amazing how your first trip through a souls game teaches you so much. For example I spent far too much of dark souls:

Hiding behind a sheild
Overencumbered and fat rolling/wasting all my stamina
Taking hits to the shield instead of dodging
Thinking the armour with the highest defense was the best
Always using heavy attack becuase I assumed it was the best

When I'd finished I was wearing a cloak, had ditched the sheild and was pumping all souls in to stamina so I could dodge enough and still have room for attacks.

I moved on to demons souls and pretty much breezed through it.

Bloodborne was really tough but I beat it.

Dark souls 3 I haven't had a sheild in hand, only on my back to raise some stats and two hand weapons, using only light attacks for speed.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by more heat than light » Thu May 16, 2019 7:06 am

I'm so chuffed that Jawa has made it this far into the game and hasn't given up. Videos have been really entertaining, I think I speak for the whole forum when I say we're so proud of you dude.

Can someone give me a nudge when he's approaching O&S though, I'd rather see his spirit get totally crushed live. Cheers.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by jawafour » Thu May 16, 2019 8:01 am

Ad7 wrote:...
Hiding behind a shield
Overencumbered and fat rolling/wasting all my stamina
Taking hits to the shield instead of dodging
Thinking the armour with the highest defense was the best
...

Check... check... check... check! :lol: .

Yeah, my curently slow playstyle uses a lot of shield and I need to manage my stamina better during attacking. I think I'm gradually speeding up, though; and I've removed my helmet to help with my movement speed.

more heat than light wrote:I'm so chuffed that Jawa has made it this far into the game and hasn't given up. Videos have been really entertaining, I think I speak for the whole forum when I say we're so proud of you dude...

Wow! Thanks, man!...

more heat than light wrote:...Can someone give me a nudge when he's approaching O&S though, I'd rather see his spirit get totally crushed live. Cheers.

... :lol: .

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Hyperion » Thu May 16, 2019 8:06 am

Ad7 wrote:Hiding behind a sheild
Overencumbered and fat rolling/wasting all my stamina
Taking hits to the shield instead of dodging
Thinking the armour with the highest defense was the best
Always using heavy attack becuase I assumed it was the best

Well this sounds like me :lol:

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by Pedz » Thu May 16, 2019 9:04 am

Ad7 wrote:
Karl_ wrote:We need to get you a Zweihander.


Everyone needs one :wub:


I keep one under the bed, just in case I need to slay a dragon or two. What with living in Wales it's essential.

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by The Watching Artist » Thu May 16, 2019 12:00 pm

jawafour wrote:

> Walls are not always solid

wow :lol:

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PostRe: Dark Souls Remastered (Switch, PS4, XB1, PC)
by The Watching Artist » Thu May 16, 2019 3:23 pm

Karl_ wrote:The second phase of Bell Gargoyles is pretty terrible. I actually like them a lot as an individual enemy, they have a cool moveset, but the both-at-once phase really needed a better arena than the rooftop. If the roof had collapsed and you'd fallen into a bigger, more interesting (with some pillars or something) room it would be a better fight.

Yeah I agree. There is often nowhere to go and the fact they can just hit through each other and decide 90% of the roof is fire when they feel like it. Its pants. The slanted roof can also cause some odd things to happen. Some of the "fun" and games I had with them. DO NOT WATCH UNTIL YOU HAVE BEATEN THEM JAWA

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