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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Tafdolphin » Fri May 24, 2019 1:36 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:What's a good starting off point in this? Not really played a flight-sim in decades and I want to give the HOTAS I got for Elite a work out on something different.


On a related note, what does everyone think of the T16000m HOTAS? Currently using a borrowed Thrustmaster X and it's fine but I want something a bit more substantial.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri May 24, 2019 1:40 pm

I'm using an X52, so I can't really say. The X52 is pretty nice though. Had great fun with it and Elite.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Fri May 24, 2019 2:26 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:What's a good starting off point in this? Not really played a flight-sim in decades and I want to give the HOTAS I got for Elite a work out on something different.


So the base 'world' is free to play, and you can pootle about in the TF-51D fighter or the SU-25 ... personally they are a bit boring so i'd jump into Flaming Cliffs 3 as it gives you the most choice out of all the modules or just buy the F15 as standalone as it is only $15 bucks.

FC3 : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ ... _cliffs_3/
F15 : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ ... dcs_world/


The beauty with the FC3 modules is the still have advanced airframes and behave realistically but the systems are simplified. its more about configuring your HOTAS with the right key-binds rather than memorizing where buttons are and what they do. That said, I find the the more in depth or "study sims" are very rewarding for that fact... they are more complex, yes. But you start off learning one system at a time.

I have tried to break down the 'professional' modules into tiers:

(All of the bellow have fully interactive cockpits, realistic damage systems and professional flight models)
https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/shop/

Twin engine: complexity [easy]

* F-5e tiger II

Twin engine: complexity [difficult]

* A-10c - lots of different systems to get used to and will take time to get keybinds right
* F/A-18 - lots of different systems to get used to and will take time to get keybinds right
* F-14 - older airframe and will have some quirks with the flight model (pro is you get to be TOP GUN)


Why are these more difficult? only because of the vast amount of key-binds you might need. Also with these you get the benefit of having a split throttle HOTAS ( this isn't strictly needed but it does make it more immersive and you usually get more buttons / switches)


Because you have the X-52 perhaps look at single engine modules:


Single engine: complexity [easy]

*L-39 Albatros - Nice and easy aircraft, cockpit labels in either English or Russian. Multiplayer support and is ideal for training but this is also the downside... not as fun for shooting stuff.


Single engine: Old school [ Propeller ]

* bunch of WWII airframes - watch out here as they have realistic propeller torque which if can make take off and landing a bit difficult to get to grips with - can also lead to some unexpected situations in the air when you redline the engine for too long and end up stalling..

Single engine: Old school [ Jet ]

* F-86 Saber - nice little jet, old school so weapons systems are a bit of a handful at first and very limited (Guns / rockets / 'dumb' bombs)
* MIG-15bis - Same as above really, but labels might be in Russian
* MIG-21bis - Same as above
* MIG-19 Farmer - Same as above


Single engine: complexity [difficult]

*AV-8B (harrier) - Modern systems, so a bit difficult as there are a lot of keybinds. Fully interactive cockpit and the flight dynamics are unusual (VTOL)
*AJS-37 Viggen - Modern systems, also watch out, cockpit labels might be in Swedish...
*M-2000C - Modern systems, and again watch out cockpit labels might be in French...


Out of all the modules, I have:

A-10C
F/A-18
L-39
P51 mustang
Spitfire MK9
F-86 Saber
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All the FC3 aircraft

on the list to get is the M2000, F14, and Tiger II



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Cheeky Devlin wrote:What's a good starting off point in this? Not really played a flight-sim in decades and I want to give the HOTAS I got for Elite a work out on something different.


On a related note, what does everyone think of the T16000m HOTAS? Currently using a borrowed Thrustmaster X and it's fine but I want something a bit more substantial.



Thrustmaster are generally okay, Personally I have their high end one and there were some teething problems with it (the throttle unit bricked under warranty) and some people report that the gimbals of Thrustmaster aren't always up to scratch.

used to have the X52 a long time ago it is was ace, just wanted an upgrade to split throttles ( oh one thing to note, if you are playing this game and find that your HOTAS isn't "flying right" ... check your trim. )

Check here on the ED forums and you will find someone with that stick, and who can give you help with key-binds:

https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=96

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri May 24, 2019 3:09 pm

Kezzer wrote:EVERYTHING

Wow.....

Cheers man. :lol:

I'll try and have a wee poke around with the base game over the weekend I think and see how I get on with it.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Fri May 24, 2019 3:29 pm

it's worth trying, but you might get a little bored with the basic 2 aircraft.

the F15 is probably a good jumping off point as it is modern, fast and fun (and you get to shoot stuff either up close with guns / sidewinders, or from Beyond Visual Range with the AIM120)

All you need to do is work out a few of the most used keybinds and you are off.

plenty of tutorials out there on youtube as well.

Modern FC3 ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk6r77Td6ds

Old FC1/2 (Pre DCS!) Radar overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpdkwTx ... rleTg6aZ6I
- With this one all the keybinds I believe are the same and the principles are identical.


one difficulty new people find is having keybinds and also having something to control the view.

if you enjoy stuff like Elite dangerous, DCS, PCars or even ARMA then Track IR is invaluable for situational awareness!

https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/

bit pricy for a peripheral - but a lot cheaper than full VR

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Cheeky Devlin » Fri May 24, 2019 3:34 pm

Kezzer wrote:if you enjoy stuff like Elite dangerous, DCS, PCars or even ARMA then Track IR is invaluable for situational awareness!

https://www.naturalpoint.com/trackir/

bit pricy for a peripheral - but a lot cheaper than full VR

Got myself a Rift at the start of the year so I'm all about that situational awareness. :datass:

Also think I might have found a VR mod for X-Wing Alliance. :D

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Victor Mildew » Fri May 24, 2019 6:17 pm

There is no substitute for VR. Being sat IN a cockpit looking around is far beyond looking at a monitor and having the view shift.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Sat May 25, 2019 7:39 am

I guess I would be worried about the resolution. Would I be able to see gauges and instrument readout clearly, and how would it work while having to click buttons and flip switches at the same time?

Would love to try it though. Just cant justify the cost atm.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:14 pm

Cheeky Devlin wrote:
Kezzer wrote:EVERYTHING

Wow.....

Cheers man. :lol:

I'll try and have a wee poke around with the base game over the weekend I think and see how I get on with it.


Now is the time to get into DCS :toot: :toot:

DCS Summer Sale 2019 is Here!



Starting today and lasting until July 14th, enjoy 50% off on most DCS World products. This includes most of the aircraft, maps, and campaigns available on the DCS e-Shop.

Note that this is the first time that the DCS: Persian Gulf Map has been discounted to 50%. If you have been holding out on this map, now is the time to add it to your collection!

Exceptions to 50% off include the DCS: F/A-18C Hornet, DCS: Christen Eagle II, and DCS: I-16 at 25% off, and DCS: F-16C Viper, DCS: F-14 Tomcat, DCS: Fw 190 A-8, and DCS: MiG-19P Farmer are not participating in this sale due to being in pre-order or recently released.


Highlights:

FC3 is 50% off: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ ... _cliffs_3/

or

The F-15 on its own is $7.50 : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/ ... dcs_world/

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:55 pm

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The F-16C is a single-seat, single-engine multirole fighter that was developed in the 1970s. More than 4,500 units were manufactured and are operated today by 26 countries where the aircraft performs numerous missions that include air superiority, close air support, precision bombing, air defense suppression, reconnaissance and more. Few other aircraft can match its versatility, maneuverability, firepower, and huge production numbers.

Nicknamed the Viper by its pilots, the F-16 was designed with a reclined seating position for high G tolerance and a single-piece bubble canopy for exceptional visibility and comfort. Its lightweight and powerful F-110-GE-129 engines provide a greater than 1:1 thrust ratio.
Housed in the nose of the Viper is a multifunction APG-68(V)5 radar. The aircraft can also be equipped with multiple sensors such as the LITENING targeting pod and HARM Targeting System (HTS).

The Viper is armed for air-to-air combat with Sidewinders, AMRAAMs, and an internal 20mm 6-barrel Gatling gun. It can also be loaded with a wide range of air-to-ground weapons that include general-purpose bombs, rockets, canister munition, Mavericks, laser- and GPS-guided bombs, and more. The F-16 provides endless gameplay in DCS World!




Now available for pre-order here

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 announced!!
by Kezzer » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:58 pm

An amazing video as always... All we need now is a fully dynamic campaign, and memories of Falcon 4.0 will be long forgotten :wub:

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Xeno » Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:29 pm

I totally didn't know I could transfer all my keys before the harrier to DCS from steam. I have now done so, I can now buy new gooseberry fool on DCS without the worry of not being able to benefit from ED sales. Yey better sales.


Fuuuuuuck, more sales.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Victor Mildew » Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:58 pm

F16, god what a beautiful aircraft :wub:

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Kezzer » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:51 pm

Xeno wrote:I totally didn't know I could transfer all my keys before the harrier to DCS from steam. I have now done so, I can now buy new gooseberry fool on DCS without the worry of not being able to benefit from ED sales. Yey better sales.


Fuuuuuuck, more sales.



really, I have a copy of blackshark I could move over then might grab the 2.0 version fro a discount *thinking emoji*

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Xeno » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:42 pm

Yes, it seems to have been introduced around January this year.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Xeno » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:57 pm

I am tempted to get the F/A-18c and the Thrustmaster grip addon but it's bloody expensive.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Xeno » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:06 pm

I got over my impulse to buy the F/A-18 and stick......I bought the F16 instead. :datass:

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Kezzer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:43 am

pre-order?

Its now on the back log. want to get the F-18 grip, new base from VKB, desk mounts from monstertech, then its F16 / F14 / F5 / M2000 / Harrier.

Damn, I am going to be broke.

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Kezzer » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:44 am

we will have to get a wee sortie planned sometime Xeno!

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PostRe: [PC] Digital Combat Simulator | (Sentōki Shoujo) DCS: F-16 on pre-order
by Albear » Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:18 am

I'd be up for that too with my little x52 setup. Haven't played dcs in years but let me know if you arrange anything.


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