Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Rocsteady » Fri May 31, 2019 10:46 am

If you download the Couchsurfing app Fade you can use the hangout feature to find folk. Had a quick look and there’s roughly 500 people in your area so should be some decent banana splits about.

How’s everyone getting on?

Been mad struggling lately, to the point where a few days ago I was having brief sucidial ideation of hanging myself. Luckily, and bizarrely, the girl I’ve been dating chatting gooseberry fool about being 'casual' last night (we’ve been dating for a couple of months now and it’s been far from casual) seemed to click my brain back into gear and feeling normal again today. Been blasting karma police as the realisation I was overly infatuated was breaking me a bit.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Fri May 31, 2019 11:04 am

I have been up and down - mostly ok but a lot of stress. Perhaps unwisely did a lot of MDMA at the weekend and couldnt come up at all so did more than I should which has left me a bit more down afterwards. Ill survive.

Can empathise with the suicdial ideation stuff though, just seems to pop up out of nowhere. I have some other thoughts which I dont feel like sharing on here but they would definitely completely ruin my life. Need to find someone to talk about it with really. Thoughts always seem to shrink outside of your head.

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by Green Gecko » Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:45 am

I've had some really bad couple of days and had to take about 4-5 days off doing all most no work, but the summer helps. I've downloaded a couple games to keep me busy and have been taking day trips out which is good. New PC is fun to muck around on.

Probably worst anxiety was a giant banana split harassing me online again at a workplace I returned to thinking I got over that gooseberry fool (and he was gone), but just reported it and got on with my day after that subsided. Heading there next week to make use of the space so hopefully I'l alright.

I've been listening to lots of old music recordings and wondering what the strawberry float I'm doing leaving music out of the picture, my brother's doing quite well promoting his gooseberry fool and I was listening to this girl singing for us years back, now she's on the same talent label as Nick Cave and Roots Manuva, so thinking about that and whether I want to make game of thrones T-shirt for another 2 years or just jack it all in and pursue music. But I know deep down that's just another type of business and a bloody tough one at that - nobody will pay, it takes forever to build a gig schedule (and keep a band from killing each other). Got in touch with some old musician peeps but no reply yet.

With the whole death thing I think about weird gooseberry fool like, what if I died would anyone find all these 1000s of recordings on my laptop some of which were pretty decent and give a gooseberry fool posthumously... I need to go to an open mic ffs, I wrote and performed my stuff when I was 12 and then depression started to strawberry float me massively and school/college/uni/carreer blahblah. It's one of only things that gets my heart feeling elated and wanting to do stuff, I just have nobody to share that with these days.

Been trying to fill out some applications for arts residencies/stipends and I've got a social worker to help me look at ACE funding form (basically bonafide paid-by-the-government-to-do-art funding) so I've got other avenues for work/expression than just putting people's stuff on T-shirts which should be my "day job" but not my entire life.

I do have my partner and it seems she has clawed my back again, so that's good (and it isn't always, stress doesn't help your love life).

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Clarkman » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:10 pm

Two weeks post op on my broken elbow. Went to hospital today for a check up on the wound and for xrays. While they said it was healing okay, I still have a 30% chance of needing a full elbow replacement.

They also wouldn't prescribe more codeine, so I'm in a lot of pain doing more intense physio.

It's now been three full weeks since I've worked in my next novel and I can't focus through this pain and I'm strawberry floating depressed as hell. My support network has been very poor tbh in terms of caring - only one friend has come to see me in three weeks.

Just very low.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:18 pm

Clarkman wrote:Two weeks post op on my broken elbow. Went to hospital today for a check up on the wound and for xrays. While they said it was healing okay, I still have a 30% chance of needing a full elbow replacement.

They also wouldn't prescribe more codeine, so I'm in a lot of pain doing more intense physio.

It's now been three full weeks since I've worked in my next novel and I can't focus through this pain and I'm strawberry floating depressed as hell. My support network has been very poor tbh in terms of caring - only one friend has come to see me in three weeks.

Just very low.

Sorry to hear about this, recovering from a break in a major area of mobility strawberry floating sucks and I was on a sofa/bed with orphadontic wedge I got from Gumtree for months.

When I fractured my spine I went down to Co-codamol which is basically paracetamol + codeine, you can get it from a pharmacist for example it's regularly dispensed for period pains and so quite normal. Have you tried that? Also you should taper off codeine (such as codeine phosphate) because of the side effects and withdrawal which will probably make you feel depressed. Speak to your GP about tapering off strong pain medication like codeine.

You can also take anti-inflammatory naproxen together with ibuprofen which isn't the same sort of pain medication (they don't react badly together), they might allow that. Sometimes it's not the pain in the break that is as bad as the irritation and heat build up caused by tender inflammation in the muscles around the break. Then you can move down to ibuprofen and paracetamol as you heal. afaik Naproxen has almost no side effects, it's the codeine that can make you constipate and for that you take senna (natural irritant / laxative)

I would also try some mindfulness exercises. Sometimes there are some pretty miraculous effects from "talking" to your pain and focusing on it until it almost disappears, this happens through a process of normalisation and by doing that somewhat letting it go; your nervous system can if your brain is focusing on it signal healing or focus on parts of your body that feel well to lessen the focus on the pain. There are pain-management specific mindfullness exercises you can probably find on YouTube or give Headspace a go, I can send you a pain-specific exercise but it's only 3 minutes, you'd probably want to practice the normal 10 minute meditation sessions first until you learn the whole practice of listening to your body and trying to let the mind rest, as really for specific issues like pain it's just the same thing but with different words.

Of course it's important to have distractions. When I was healing (and I didn't even get given any physio so I was pretty much left on my own with a broken back!!) I read a programming book until I got bored of it and I built a remote controlled forklift because... why not. Try not to worry about things you can't do now because you absolutely WILL be able to do them when you are better and it's OK to do that because your body MUST heal (and it WILL! It's an amazing thing). But you can distract yourself from missing out on stuff you've not been doing by other tasks like finishing a book on audiobook maybe, I also did some other reading on technical subjects because I felt at least I was learning something. Try to make use of the downtime so when you come out of it won't feel so bad having done "none of XYZ". Everyone has stuff they never get around to doing and kick themselves for not doing because "there's no time", but there is time when you can't do all that other stuff you're used to :)

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Clarkman » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:34 pm

Green Gecko wrote:
Clarkman wrote:Two weeks post op on my broken elbow. Went to hospital today for a check up on the wound and for xrays. While they said it was healing okay, I still have a 30% chance of needing a full elbow replacement.

They also wouldn't prescribe more codeine, so I'm in a lot of pain doing more intense physio.

It's now been three full weeks since I've worked in my next novel and I can't focus through this pain and I'm strawberry floating depressed as hell. My support network has been very poor tbh in terms of caring - only one friend has come to see me in three weeks.

Just very low.

Sorry to hear about this, recovering from a break in a major area of mobility strawberry floating sucks and I was on a sofa/bed with orphadontic wedge I got from Gumtree for months.

When I fractured my spine I went down to Co-codamol which is basically paracetamol + codeine, you can get it from a pharmacist for example it's regularly dispensed for period pains and so quite normal. Have you tried that? Also you should taper off codeine (such as codeine phosphate) because of the side effects and withdrawal which will probably make you feel depressed. Speak to your GP about tapering off strong pain medication like codeine.

You can also take anti-inflammatory naproxen together with ibuprofen which isn't the same sort of pain medication (they don't react badly together), they might allow that. Sometimes it's not the pain in the break that is as bad as the irritation and heat build up caused by tender inflammation in the muscles around the break. Then you can move down to ibuprofen and paracetamol as you heal. afaik Naproxen has almost no side effects, it's the codeine that can make you constipate and for that you take senna (natural irritant / laxative)

I would also try some mindfulness exercises. Sometimes there are some pretty miraculous effects from "talking" to your pain and focusing on it until it almost disappears, this happens through a process of normalisation and by doing that somewhat letting it go; your nervous system can if your brain is focusing on it signal healing or focus on parts of your body that feel well to lessen the focus on the pain. There are pain-management specific mindfullness exercises you can probably find on YouTube or give Headspace a go, I can send you a pain-specific exercise but it's only 3 minutes, you'd probably want to practice the normal 10 minute meditation sessions first until you learn the whole practice of listening to your body and trying to let the mind rest, as really for specific issues like pain it's just the same thing but with different words.

Of course it's important to have distractions. When I was healing (and I didn't even get given any physio so I was pretty much left on my own with a broken back!!) I read a programming book until I got bored of it and I built a remote controlled forklift because... why not. Try not to worry about things you can't do now because you absolutely WILL be able to do them when you are better and it's OK to do that because your body MUST heal (and it WILL! It's an amazing thing). But you can distract yourself from missing out on stuff you've not been doing by other tasks like finishing a book on audiobook maybe, I also did some other reading on technical subjects because I felt at least I was learning something. Try to make use of the downtime so when you come out of it won't feel so bad having done "none of XYZ".


Thanks for all of the above, GG. Your pain med advice is consistent with theirs. I understand the hesitancy to continue prescribing anyone dihydrocodeine, but I'm already only sleeping in three hour blocks. Just don't feel the ibuprofen/para combo will kick it.

The issue with the pain is that I'm supposed to be reaching 5/10 on pain threshold 5 times a day through physio. So hard to have mindfulness through self imposed pain, when your body is screaming to just revert back to safe postures.

I've blamed by focus on the pain, but it is probably more so general shitty old depression limiting me, with a decent excuse for once.

Willing to try the mindfulness exercises for sure though, so please do PM them through.


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