Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:23 pm

SandyCoin wrote:Well I went to see when my earliest MRI could be...and it's late January :| So that's a no go unfortunately as I will hopefully be in Asia enjoying myself (wishful thinking).

I've booked a neck, shoulder and head massage this weekend just to see if it gives me a bit of relief. Not a proper chiropractor yet though. I'll look for one of those in London when I'm back next week (and sadly pay London prices). I've learnt to deal with my slipped disc in my lower back, but in my neck is just a huge downer. Especially just before this trip.

I work at a desk all day, but sadly not doing design anymore. That's only very infrequently. One of the reasons for my sabbatical was to do more design work again, hence the long trip duration, and get creative again as doing artwork certainly helps with my depression and anxiety. I even spent a fortune recently on an iPad with the Apple pencil, which I got to use for about 3 weeks before this neck thing occurred. Now I can barely look down for 5 mins, so that's a bit of a gut punch. My desk is decent enough, I'm at eye level etc and the chair has a cushion for support etc. Not amazing, but work didn't want to shell out for a proper set up for me for obvious reasons. I am very rarely on my phone, so not looking down a huge amount except for some occasions.

I'm having trouble sleeping now. I'm sleeping separately to my gf at the moment as our bed is uncomfortable and I'm moving around too much, so don't want to disturb her. I get all anxious at night and start kinda spiraling into that horrible pit of thinking the worst and feeling my heart rate go up, thinking I'm gonna have a stroke or something. I have to put a TV show on really quietly in the background as I can't sleep at all when there is just silence. My thoughts just end up taking over, which are 99% of the time negative.

Medication like zopiclone could help you sleep as well as treating the anxiety with a beta blocker like propanalol. The bed sounds like an issue... Invested in a decent mattress with my partner, split half way, we spent about £400 and traded in our old mattress. A good mattress shouldn't disturb you both too much from movement. You probably need more springs and there are "anti roll together" designs. I went with 1200 pocket springs and plenty of cushioning, hand tufted so a bit more firm. A too soft mattress can be as bad as one that is old and worn out. Definitely consider it, even if it's a temporary brand new one that isn't too much for you. Sleep is so important. That situation doesn't sound good at all.

White noise or rain sounds is also good for that. And do try some sleep focuses mindullness exercises. I can send you an MP3 if that helps? It's an exercise I've been using for several years. It sounds like most of these things are all folding into each other, glad to hear your work setup isn't bad.

I also had a problem in my lower back from "extreme moshing" for someone's photography project. It occasionally returned but completely disappeared forever after chiro, the feeling there was strawberry floating crazy when they did it, like I felt it through my entire lower body and even my feet.

If you can't even look down, I was similar, I really think message and chiropractic could help you as well as doing regular self massage. Check out some self massage videos on YouTube. You need to do maintenance on your body if you are are suffering from stress so you don't become a stress ball as if feeds back negatively to your mental wellbeing, no good feeling like crap. It's all connected. Knowing how it feels to just not want or be able to even move (my go to example being a light switch feeling like work) I know it's not easy but getting back on that path to self care and paying attention to your body is part of mindfulness which reduces anxiety.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:30 pm

Jezo wrote:So I've been thinking about therapy recently to see if that'll help, but one of the things that depresses me is not having the time to do the things I want to do. So it's like is it worth sacrificing the time? I can't see how it would even help in my case. Also sorry if I just dropped in and interrupted something kek

See it as an investment in yourself. It's worth a go, even if you think it might not work for you. Everybody needs to take a certain amount of their time and give it to their personal needs, which might include regular or ocassionally therapy for you. Most therapy sessions only last 30 mins to an hour, sometimes 2 hours if you need it. Everything is arranged by letter, email or telephone. So I'd say including the referral process you would need about 3 hours in a month to speak to someone, although it could take a long time to get an appointment, unfortunately. Could that work? Go to your GP just to get the ball rolling as they can forward an impartial opinion, or depending on your area there are probably self referral websites anyone can use if they're feeling anxious or depressed or have other strains on their mental wellbeing.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Tsunade » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:34 pm

How long has anyone waited for therapy before? I'm currently on a waiting list but I haven't been told how long I'm going to have to wait on it till I actually see someone.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:23 pm

6 months+

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by kerr9000 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:50 am

From my experience the time you wait is wildly different depending on all kinds of things where you live, the issue you have, how bad its perceived you are. When I was waiting for PTSD therapy I was seen by a therapist after two months but he saw me for 5 minutes then said he wouldn't see me, apparently he was a regular therapist and I required a trauma therapist. A friend of mine wanted to transition and saw a therapist after about a month but I've known people who have waited a year.

When I was young it was suggested I was possibly autistic, it was never really pushed though, I was essentially left with a verdict of well you could be, this January it was decided I should see someone about that and be assessed my GP started the ball rolling , apparently I have to wait till October and in October I'll get a letter with an appointment, I went down this alley as I was struggling and thought it would give me some answers and some peace but now it's been so long its kind of not bothering me but I'm still going to see it through cause knowing my luck if I dropped it things would change.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Corazon de Leon » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:49 am

Between raising the possibility with a CBT specialist and actually being finally seen and diagnosed with ADHD and fairly mild anxiety, it took me almost five years. It’s really just a lottery.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Karl_ » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:01 am

kerr9000 wrote: A friend of mine wanted to transition and saw a therapist after about a month but I've known people who have waited a year.

Typical wait time for a GIC appointment is 1-2 years at the moment, which is just terrible really.

I think therapy (of all kinds) should be considered an urgent need, people really do die on the waiting list waiting for mental health support. :(

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Victor Mildew » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:11 am

Semi related to the above - work are big on helping out with mental health issues, and have introduced metal health first aiders. I was going to volunteer for an open spot but I can't make the set training days (I'm away). Shame as I thought it'd not only be helping people, but also help understand my own issues and those of the people around me.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Drumstick » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:35 am

Ad7 wrote:Semi related to the above - work are big on helping out with mental health issues, and have introduced metal health first aiders. I was going to volunteer for an open spot but I can't make the set training days (I'm away). Shame as I thought it'd not only be helping people, but also help understand my own issues and those of the people around me.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Victor Mildew » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:39 am

:fp: :lol:

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Curls » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:20 am

Hah, my work have mental Health first aiders. The girl who is the first aider here, is also the girl who completely negatively cut me out as a friend when I started suffering with isolation and depression issues... ironic to say the least. Sh probably has a lot of issues herself though, but she's not empathetic that's for sure.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Corazon de Leon » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:49 am

Drumstick wrote:
Ad7 wrote:Semi related to the above - work are big on helping out with mental health issues, and have introduced metal health first aiders. I was going to volunteer for an open spot but I can't make the set training days (I'm away). Shame as I thought it'd not only be helping people, but also help understand my own issues and those of the people around me.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Gemini73 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:56 pm

Drumstick wrote:
Ad7 wrote:Semi related to the above - work are big on helping out with mental health issues, and have introduced metal health first aiders. I was going to volunteer for an open spot but I can't make the set training days (I'm away). Shame as I thought it'd not only be helping people, but also help understand my own issues and those of the people around me.

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Brilliant :lol:

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Gemini73 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:06 pm

Alcohol has, unsurprisingly, never been my best friend when it comes to my mental health and while I do enjoy a pint I had cut it right back. Now, however, I will have to kick it altogether as in the last month (after drying out for a couple prior) I think my body is actually rejecting the booze. I can't have so much as a pint without feeling nauseous a short time after or the next day. This has caused me a bit of anxiety which has no doubt prolonged the sense of nausea I get way beyond the initial starting point so yep, I'm done with alcohol. My body says no.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Fade » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:52 pm

I had a pint of cider last week after not drinking for a year and it felt like I had drunk 5 shots :lol:

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Gemini73 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:21 pm

Fade wrote:I had a pint of cider last week after not drinking for a year and it felt like I had drunk 5 shots :lol:



Friend of mine gave up the booze 13 months ago. He said about half way through the mental stress the drying out process gave him was pretty awful at times.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Squinty » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:30 pm

Fade wrote:I had a pint of cider last week after not drinking for a year and it felt like I had drunk 5 shots :lol:


I can definitely understand this. I remember posting on here about the last time I went for drinks. I had three and I had a hangover the next morning. I don't drink much, but still, it shocked me to the core :lol:

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:59 pm

kerr9000 wrote:From my experience the time you wait is wildly different depending on all kinds of things where you live, the issue you have, how bad its perceived you are. When I was waiting for PTSD therapy I was seen by a therapist after two months but he saw me for 5 minutes then said he wouldn't see me, apparently he was a regular therapist and I required a trauma therapist. A friend of mine wanted to transition and saw a therapist after about a month but I've known people who have waited a year.

When I was young it was suggested I was possibly autistic, it was never really pushed though, I was essentially left with a verdict of well you could be, this January it was decided I should see someone about that and be assessed my GP started the ball rolling , apparently I have to wait till October and in October I'll get a letter with an appointment, I went down this alley as I was struggling and thought it would give me some answers and some peace but now it's been so long its kind of not bothering me but I'm still going to see it through cause knowing my luck if I dropped it things would change.

I have a similar story. My dad despite being a neurologist/psysiologist professor ignored it up until very recently years after I got my own diagnosis sorted out as I desperately needed help at uni. It did take about a year for me but the stickler was being sent an appointment letter for neurobehavioral clinic with actual relevant professor to look at me, while I was away seeing my grandad with cancer, the letter after waiting years was like "see you next week" subsequently I missed it and 8 years later it's never been followed up. But I still got a diagnosis of ASD along the way from a psychologist doctor, and received various support over the years, it's still a battle though as a lot of places want money. Before that I got an educational psychologist report that said I was 98% likely to be autistic which may have helped the process but it cost £600, we got it down to £420 after saying well it was too much for my mum. That was funny because when I applied for disabled student allowance to get help with my studies they told me no because it had to say I was 100% autistic, not 98% i.e. Partially, it has to be a concrete diagnosis even though the test was the same DSMIV criteria!! Despite the report saying I had about 4 specific learning difficulties (SpLDs, nowadays it is not about fitting a specific diagnostic criteria like dyslexia or dyspraxia for example which are more common but the specific problems within a spectrum, so that was just plain wrong). Consequently I lost about 6-12 months of support I was eligible for and needed. Good luck man it will help you in the long run even if just to understand yourself a bit better and know you are not alone being different. It was more work but it also meant I could claim PIP which is not assessed based on income and can help with things like cost of counselling or seeing a specialist from time to time or just subsiding the income I lose because I cannot hold down a "normal" job in an office etc. (despite trying numerous times and getting no help with that).

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:20 am

at the risk of being really strawberry floating lame, having a really strawberry floating tough time

every single waking moment is filled with negative thoughts and playing and replaying past events, hypothetical future events, impossible scenarios, or staring at the wall

Im supposed to be working and I cant do it

when I go to bed I have even more negative processes and then I dream about breaking up with the ex in all sorts of different ways, OR I dream about us talking and getting on and then I wake up

its not that we are at war or anything but her method of getting past it is to just isolate eachother until she feels better, whereas Im more of a communication based approach

I havent been sending her messages or anything like that, really trying to not bother her or damage her process

we shared essentially all of our friends and only one of them has reached out and spoken to me, the rest have just left me alone

I gave up the house, the furniture, the town, everything except for my clothes and computer and now Im back at square -1 and completely and totally isolated

no real suicidal thoughts or anything but constant ideals of hurting myself in other ways although Im not acting on them

only way I managed to get some rest last night after waking from dreams and then hours of thinking about it was to allow some random voice speaking gibberish into my head and meditating on some weird trippy visuals

tl:dr Im really gay and trapped in a hole having caught feels

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Rocsteady » Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:30 am

You don't have to couch it in language of being lame or gay, when I was at my most 'masculine' of partying and boxing I was near my lowest. Hope you start feeling better soon, you got somewhere to live and that set up?

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