Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Curls » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:30 am

Your wife - Maybe you need to sit down and have a chat with her? if not does she have a sister/brother or friend you can talk to and who can reach out to her a little.

I remember when my grandparents died as a teenager. It was odd, I remember being sad because they had died, but I didn't make the link that they were also my mum/dad's parent's, so I don't know myself if I made that link and asked if they were OK.

Kids are weird, they view parents differently to other human beings, and sometimes compassion can be lost.

I know my mum to this day still misses her mother madly, although I was 23 when she died, and was far more understanding. I helped do quite a few of the 'daily' routine visits when the grandmother was hospital-bound after her stroke to ease the pressure on my mum and her siblings.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Mommy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:51 am

I dont think its all her. A lot of it is me. I just want to walk away from the whole thing and start again.
Not easy with kids involved.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Curls » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:08 am

My advice? and it can be ignored.

Keep it amicable, try to look after yourself and your family and try to remember that pain is only a temporary thing. It will get better, maybe not for a while yet but your feelings change. It can often feel like you're trapped in a situation, and then one day you wake up with a different mindset and you suddenly feel like things are a bit better.

Give it time, wait for your feelings for your loss are eased and the grief to become a little less raw, wait until you have the patience again for your wife, and then when you start to feel a bit better in yourself have a good think about what you really want with your marriage and talk to her about it.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Mommy » Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:38 am

Thank you Curls.
Wise words, and much appreciated.

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by kerr9000 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:37 am

Mommy wrote:This thread is pretty cool (alright there is some friction but on the whole its helping people get things out.
I have never been able to express my feelings, to anyone. It is easier for me to suppress my demons and not show weakness than talk problems through.
My dad died 2 months ago and Ive just supported all my family, especially my mum, since then.
Im not sure Ive had a chance to grieve properly but I wont know until it hits me.
Ive just highlighted this message with the intention of deleting it and not posting, but Ive got to post something.


A few days ago it would have been my mums 68th birthday if she was still alive. When she passed I was very very focused on my dad and my daughter and trying to pull them through it. I remember miserably trying to do Christmas the way my mum would have to try and keep things as normal as possible for my daughter.

For me I really started to grieve later and in kind of small chunks, it really does hit us all differently, when my grandad my mums dad passed she really missed him and said how it never went properly away and now I know she was right, it gets easier to cope but the loss never stops being felt.

I hope your doing alright and that it gets better for you

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Gemini73 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:42 pm

Sorry to read of your loss, Mommy. Such a shame your wife isn't supportive at what is clearly a very difficult time. People can be quite selfish, particularly at the most inappropriate of times. As others have said, reach out to someone who might talk to her if she's unwilling to listen to you herself.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:52 pm

hello,

I have been diagnosed as bipolar and the nhs have been pretty good

I have to take an antipsychotic with my antidepressant to level me out which is a shame as I was getting pretty high but I am informed this is a bad thing so now Im just levelled out

explains a lot of my past thrillseeking behaviour

my ex has been fine and then psycho and then fine and then psycho so Im just dealing with that as best I can

I have to see a nurse once a week to make sure I dont kill or hurt myself and she seems nice, shes referring me on for a load of other life aid services too

Im doing all my old sexually perverted stuff again but this time much more interestingly with the new social net I have, lots of wild strawberry floated gooseberry fool going down which really helps to pass the time

still here, still bubbling along, still looking for something but I dont really know what

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:35 pm

Sorry if it's nosy but you have arrangements with the wife about sexual stuff yeah? Cos for me a relationship brought me a huge amount of stability I desperately needed.

Is the anti psychotic quetiapine? In low doses it helps "ensure" I actually sleep and don't go slowly mad without it but damn does if lock you down for a good 10 hours in my experience. I can't normally take it during the day or I'll just pass out at some point which is counterproductive. On the plus side I have only really had perhaps two anxiety attacks since taking it when I wasn't taking it as prescribed, one was really silly and I can't actually remember the other one. All in all over within 30 minutes or so which is good. I usually keep two in my wallet in case I feel something really bad coming on and I'm not coping in some some social situations or overloading environments. Honestly if I was working in an office I think I'd have to take twice as much. Actually, I did take it when I was doing some contract work but I got let go after 2 weeks for the usual bullshit reasons even though they knew my work was good. I can't focus in those environments no matter how hard I try.

I don't really get euphoric about much after long periods of depression either, as you say it can be as bad as a low because it can set you off on wild tangents and forget your basic needs like regular sleep, in my experience.

Oh I just remembered, it was when some goon at home base threatened to call the police and banned me because I asked for a return and refund on 3 small items under a tenner.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:35 pm

what do you mean about arrangements with the wife? Im strawberry floating strangers again, sorry if that wasnt clear

I was taking something else but it was making me insanely shaky, I have restless legs anyway and it had me pacing and constantly tremoring so Im on quetiapine now instead, its back to the old zombie for the first 5 hours of the day thing that mirtazapines used to give me

I miss the euphoria tbh, at least that felt fun even if it wasnt useful

I was on a date tonight in the cinema and just spent the whole time thinking about my own mortality and then when I was driving home I nearly cried for no reason and then I dissociated, so Im not sure its working as intended just yet lol

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:39 am

Oh, I missed the ex part. So I thought you were still together.

If quetiapine makes you feel drowsy during the day and its difficult to fight through it, try taking it all at night. It just pretty much guarantees I'll get 8-10 hours sleep. I stopped taking it during the day because it was just impossible to think properly and get anything done. Also by taking it consistently I built up my tolerance for it. Now it's possible for me to fight through it (which is bad as I take advantage of the side effect to go to sleep, I should be in bed now) in the evenings if I absolutely must because of some stupid crazy last minute job or my own procrastination or just because I want to keep playing a game or whatever.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:10 am

yeah Im taking it at night but you get that proper sleep hangover, the one where you wake up and do something and then immediately fall asleep and forget you were ever up

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:28 pm

Yeah it makes it way harder than it should be to get up and stay alert. But I'm OK with that as I can work midday into evening. I'd rather get the sleep I need than feel on edge and running on adrenaline randomly throughout the day. Over time that way I star to eventually feel like I haven't slept at all and my entire body starts to ache. Unfortunately like most pharmacology it's a balance of the good and bad. I've never tried propranolol or other beta blocker etc. but disassociation and general wandering off in my brain is not something I want to experience too often so I put up with it. That feeling that you're not connected to your hands or could just piss off anywhere mentally any minute and lose it is the strawberry floating worst. And with sleep deprivation, just stopping caring when days begin and end because you don't feel like you have any control over the energy available to you or how long you spend dwelling on this or that or daydreaming about weird gooseberry fool.

Mindfulness also helps, I think my brain has improved a bit for the better so maybe one day I won't depend on the meds to stay stable. But I don't exactly have the best faith in the world as my sensorium experiences it to keep me feeling safe and ready to take on whatever comes at me. And without so many highs from the peaks and troughs of depression I don't get inspired all that much to spontaneously pursue new ideas and make things. But when I am like that, generally if I'm low on the medicine, I'm not sleeping or there's been some big problem tipping me over I'll try doing lots of different things and finish none of them meaning that, I wasn't all that productive as a result.

I tend to slowly chip away at not crazy amount of goals these days which means that overall I'm more likely to achieve some of them.

I had a bad habit in the past of going a bit loco and furiously applying for things like jobs or tendering art projects and then backing out at the last minute, sometimes after I'd really gotten their interest because I suddenly realised how afraid I actually was of the risks and realities of going through with it, like having to travel 150 miles everyday or put this other thing on the backburner for some unknown amount of time. For example once I applied to a prestigious art school in Germany, got my references lined up and was all ready to ship my gooseberry fool over there in a crate and live and work in a combined studio/flat and my girlfriend just cried, I had completely forgotten what it actually meant upping sticks and going to some other world like that, what I would be leaving behind.

People who experience mania like that tend to have very similar experiences of getting super excited all of a sudden, like driving off into the sunset and ignoring/forgetting all the practicalities and logistics of life, which can obviously be a bit dangerous in the long term. It's hard to know when it's OK to go down the route and when it's time to sit down, eat lunch and watch TV and calm the strawberry float down. Been there so many times.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:56 pm

Ive managed to bring myself off and live med free a few times these past couple of years but every incidence ends in my life falling apart, so I guess that means I need them

the dissociation feels like I just float up and out of my head, I obviously cant see myself from above but I definitely exist outside of my body but at the same time become more aware of what my senses are feeling? It sounds like it should be the opposite but it isnt, its an odd experience and I dont entirely hate it but it can be scary

the mania I agree on, you make all these mad plans or just go out and do mad gooseberry fool before you crash, or put yourself in positions where you then have to contact people and cancel once you realise you have to actually follow up. Most of my acting out is sexual for reasons I dont really know, so I can find myself in a lot of risky situations which can lead to a huge mood drop or increased mania

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by Green Gecko » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:24 am

I have the dreaded all body aches and "nerves on fire" which has hit me hard and fast after a relatively successful period pushing myself out there on the London art scene after getting accepted by a large artist group with a lot of history, even getting shortlisted for an award. And it strawberry floating sucks. Barely fighting through the pain and the grim just to turn off the lights and gooseberry fool before fumbling off to bed at 3am.

If anyone tells you depression is all in your head, find the nearest brick and throw it at their cock or vagina or some other richly populated part of their nervous system that isn't emotionally brain dead, if they even have one. After all, there's plenty of evidence to suggest that the most intelligent people have some of the worst mental health problems, so they're probably retarded.

The brain, nervous system and even the gut are all connected. The struggle is real.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Fade » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:33 pm

False wrote:Ive managed to bring myself off and live med free a few times these past couple of years but every incidence ends in my life falling apart, so I guess that means I need them

the dissociation feels like I just float up and out of my head, I obviously cant see myself from above but I definitely exist outside of my body but at the same time become more aware of what my senses are feeling? It sounds like it should be the opposite but it isnt, its an odd experience and I dont entirely hate it but it can be scary

the mania I agree on, you make all these mad plans or just go out and do mad gooseberry fool before you crash, or put yourself in positions where you then have to contact people and cancel once you realise you have to actually follow up. Most of my acting out is sexual for reasons I dont really know, so I can find myself in a lot of risky situations which can lead to a huge mood drop or increased mania

My ex used to dissociate a lot, it's quite scary and upsetting from an outsider's point of view. She just used to sit there and not listen or react to anything I said or did, just had to wait it out.

Is it like that for you as well? Wasn't sure if different people act differently when dissociating.

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by Green Gecko » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:38 pm

I'm still perfectly lucid, I just feel estranged from my body like, what the strawberry float are hands man, in this me, who am I really etc.

With depression you can also shut down to the extent of barely moving or speaking, so there's that too.

I had weird dreams today where I had to explain psychosis to members of my step family and dad, while in the midst of some kind of dystopian run down city party in a neo Amsterdam or something. These seem to happen a few times a year, where I get anxiety about going psychotic. It hasn't actually happened in about 8 years now, but that is such a mind strawberry float and my dreams are very lucid so it feels real. I mean, dreams are essentially natural psychosis, so psychosis inside psychosis, what the hell brain just stop.

Been pushing through meds just a little bit recently, playing games in the evening (which is good because it keeps my mind off things for a while) while having had a solid wall of depression for a week. After about 1am and half asleep I was convinced the frame rate had doubled in monster hunter and I had mind melded with the game. Similar thing with wind waker. Proper weird hypereal gooseberry fool.

This is why people ask if I do drugs. Find that pretty annoying tbh because it suggests to experience anything but 'normal' you must be a stoner.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:54 pm

Green Gecko wrote:I'm still perfectly lucid, I just feel estranged from my body like, what the strawberry float are hands man, in this me, who am I really etc.


this, I feel like I float outside and above my body - its a physical sensation and I can feel myself exit through the top of my head

also I had a full on mental breakdown this weekend

found out my ex has been finding out who Ive been seeing, god knows how, and telling them Im all diseased and gooseberry fool

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by Karl_ » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:59 pm

False wrote:found out my ex has been finding out who Ive been seeing, god knows how, and telling them Im all diseased and gooseberry fool

This is awful mate, absolutely disgraceful behaviour on her part. I'm so sorry.

IMO you need to change your social media passwords [EDIT: and "track my phone" password if you have one?] in case she's spying that way, and cut out any mutual friends you don't 100% trust.

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by gamerforever » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:04 pm

One thing i’ve learnt as i’ve got older is that you really cannot trust anyone. People out there will try to use someone’s mental illness against them and it is why it is so difficult to talk to people about it.

I do feel that cutting people out of your life is the best way to move forward and focus on your goals.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:11 pm

gamerforever wrote:One thing i’ve learnt as i’ve got older is that you really cannot trust anyone.

That is a desperately cynical view to have and one you should strive to reconsider however possible, otherwise it will drive you down in future.

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