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by jawa4 » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 pm

These are useful additional tips for folk who may be feeling stressed by the situation around the coronavirus, and/or find themselves constantly checking for news about it.



Limit the amount of time you spend reading or watching things which aren't making you feel better. Perhaps decide on a specific time to check in with the news

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:29 pm

False wrote:big life hack for those with brain problems, especially if they have an anxious flavour

disable read receipts on any messaging apps

that way you never know if they've seen your message and dont know if you've read theirs

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I do this, but enable them in the other direction for emails :shifty:

Honestly though I do that for business, so I don't have to ask pointless "did you get my email" messages which are really just a version of a follow-up but nobody admits it.

As for "the virus", yeah, I've been checking BBC news bulletins on radio and smart speaker, and as those are only done every couple of hours, I'm not constantly worrying about it.

Actually I'm quite happy because I made a decision quite a long time ago to self employ (as everyone probably knows already) meaning I can do whatever the strawberry float I like to avoid getting ill or getting someone else ill, and I don't have to suffer everyone talking and questioning about it constantly.

My office building is open, and it's a private office, they are wiping things down with disinfectant a bit but again I can carry on as normal should I wish and risks is pretty near minimal.

My gf kind of got hit by anxiety for weird reasons, she saw some guy buying loads of custard and couldn't understand this, so she got upset coming back from the supermarket and was a bit strung out for a few days.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Vermilion » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:36 pm

I must admit, in light of all the doom and gloom, i'm making an effort to actively reduce the amount of time i spend on news websites/watching bulletins on TV/reading the papers.

Yesterday mum completely lost it over her back door which sticks sometimes, but it was clear that said door was not the issue, and i'm now advising her to do the same.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawa4 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:47 pm

Vermilion wrote:...Yesterday mum completely lost it over her back door which sticks sometimes, but it was clear that said door was not the issue, and i'm now advising her to do the same.

Yeah, many people (myself included) tend to not realise how their frustrations and concerns are building up... and then unleash their anger at something fairly innocuous.

I agree that managing the frequency and time you spend looking at "bad news" could be a healthy approach to take.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Lagamorph » Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:41 pm

I've never posted in this thread before, I've not really even opened or read it, I've never felt I had to before. I never felt like there was anything wrong and I felt I'd have nothing to contribute to people who needed support.

But right now I just think I need to type something out, just to say something. Like a lot of people I'm getting worried/anxious over everything going on right now, but I've just never felt like this before, I just don't really know how to deal with it.
Until yesterday I felt...fine. And then just...suddenly everything seemed to hit me, like reality suddenly just set in out of nowhere, and suddenly I just felt....wrong, I just didn't feel like me anymore. I was able to talk with a friend and rally myself around, by the time I went to sleep I felt like I'd gotten back to myself, and when I woke up this morning I felt relatively normal/ok. But then being out today, buying some shopping and seeing empty shelves right infront of me, it just started to get to me again. Since then most of the day I've just felt like I'm bouncing up and down, but just now I just...I just burst into tears. I held it back for a little but I just sat down and they just started coming for a minute or two.

I don't really know why I'm feeling this way, I know I shouldn't. I'm not in an at-risk group. I'm still relatively young at 35, I've never smoked, I have no respiratory illnesses or illnesses that may comprimise my immune system. Besides being overweight I'm generally ok. I'm probably in one of the least at risk groups to be in.

And yet I still just feel....I don't know how I feel but I just don't feel like me. I worry about my family getting sick and something happening, I worry about me getting sick and something happening, I worry that even if I don't get sick and my family don't get sick that something happens and me/my dad/my brother end up losing our jobs. Work have confirmed today that my entire team will be working from home for the foreseeable future and whilst that should be reassuring to me, in a way it just makes me feel worse. It brings the reality of it all further home.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawa4 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:13 pm

Lagamorph wrote:I've never posted in this thread before...

Hey, Laga, it's perfectly normal to feel how you do, dude. We're in a pretty much unprecedented situation - something that few of us have experienced before - and it's a natural reaction to be worried and apprehensive. We don't know how things will pan out but we do know that the appropriately skilled people are working hard to put arrangements in place to try and allow each of us to navigate a way forward.

It may be an idea to manage how often and for how long you spend searching and analysing the news at this time. It's important to stay aware of developments, but it's equally important to strike a balance and try to focus on other things, too. Of course, posting here can be a good outlet if you do feel a need to share your thoughts and talk over anything.

Hang in there, believe in your own ability to work through this difficult time... and I hope that you're soon feeling a little more comfortable.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Lagamorph » Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:22 pm

jawa4 wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:I've never posted in this thread before...

Hey, Laga, it's perfectly normal to feel how you do, dude. We're in a pretty much unprecedented situation - something that few of us have experienced before - and it's a natural reaction to be worried and apprehensive. We don't know how things will pan out but we do know that the appropriately skilled people are working hard to put arrangements in place to try and allow each of us to navigate a way forward.

It may be an idea to manage how often and for how long you spend searching and analysing the news at this time. It's important to stay aware of developments, but it's equally important to strike a balance and try to focus on other things, too. Of course, posting here can be a good outlet if you do feel a need to share your thoughts and talk over anything.

Hang in there, believe in your own ability to work through this difficult time... and I hope that you're soon feeling a little more comfortable.

Thanks Jawa. It really does help just knowing someone is even reading things. I'm just so unused to feeling this way, I've never felt it before. I guess I've just led such a comfortable life to this point that I don't have much in the way of ability to deal with feeling anxious. Maybe it's the prospect of losing that comfort that's making me feel this way.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:06 pm

thats what the thread is for bro

its a stressful time for sure, normal to be a bit freaked

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Victor Mildew » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:36 pm

Lagamorph wrote:I've never posted in this thread before


It's easy to live life in a kind of third person way, and be disconnected from things. As you say, being directly faced with reality can often catch you off guard and affect you in ways you don't expect. It's a stressful time for everyone on many levels, and it's ok and normal to worry about things.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Lagamorph » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:41 pm

Thanks guys, I really mean it. Even just being told "Feeling like this is normal" is a help.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Victor Mildew » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:45 pm

My life is about as easy as it gets, I've got strawberry float all to complain about, and I still feel anxious. Not for me and my wife, but for our few remaining relatives who are smack bang in the worst case scenario to get it (elderly and have cancer). I forget my point as I'm typing this :fp:

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:50 pm

I don't want to downplay anyone's feelings, but I think it's worth considering what kind of role group anxiety has to play in all this. Basically, legit hysteria doesn't necessarily mean it's crazy, but signs all around you that something unpredictable and unexpected and in some ways impossible to mitigate is not only about to happen but already happening can get to you. It impacts simple things like your everyday routine for shopping and planning meals, when and whether or not you are expected to travel to work, who you can and cannot see and where and for how long, with none of these things having clear answers. For anyone with anxiety, feeling like this is unfortunately pretty normal, but in certain situations, that simply becomes normal for everyone because it's actually the truth for most people and so with that in mind I'd expect plenty of people who don't normally experience an impingement on their mental wellbeing of sorts to suffer even slightly from that.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Outrunner » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:55 pm

Lagamorph wrote:I've never posted in this thread before, I've not really even opened or read it, I've never felt I had to before.


It's here whenever you need it. It's a stressful, anxiety inducing time and being bombarded with news updates and seeing the reality in empty shelves, places closing down, having to change working habits, it all takes it's toll. And it affects people in different ways.

Personally I'm not overly concerned about the virus itself,or even people panic buying. I mean yes, I'm worried but its not the top of my list. For me its a couple of things. I'm worried that now I'm not at uni and have no real structure to my days I'm going to fall behind on work. I'm worried about the social distancing too. My university has closed so I don't get to see my friends, I won't go to the library where I work to see my work friends because, frankly it's a breeding ground for disease. And I'm isolated from my family (my parents while not in the danger age group are in their mid/late 60s so I don't want to risk things). I was walking around the supermarket earlier and I just felt really sad and lonely.

So really, don't be hard on yourself. If you need somewhere to vent and get support, everyone in this thread is here for you.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Lagamorph » Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:56 pm

I'm off work on Annual Leave this week, but to be honest I think I'm actually looking forward to getting back to work next week. It'll give me some structure to my day, I'll be able to talk with my work mates as we're scheduling daily conference calls for just non work related chat simply for the purpose of having some level of human interaction without needing it to be face to face. I honestly thing being back 'at work' (albeit from home) is going to benefit my state of mind.


Outrunner wrote:So really, don't be hard on yourself. If you need somewhere to vent and get support, everyone in this thread is here for you.

Thank you man. Thank you so very much to everyone in here offering support. It's times like this I'm so glad I found out about this place.

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by False » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:10 pm

my only major worry is that my niece will be alright as shes only around 18 months, and if I get it Im a little concerned how Ill get by if its bad - seeing as I live at least 50 miles / 1hr from nearest relatives and I dont have any friends around here that could help, so Ill be on my own

we'll be reet laga

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by False » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:11 pm

oh hey laga, Ive started playing disco elysium this week - and if you are looking for a diversion this is the most engaging thing in the entire strawberry floating universe, legit amazing

Id strongly recommend if you have some time to kill, you'll wonder where your week went

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by Green Gecko » Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:16 pm

When I have worked with a psychologist in the past, one of the subjects we talked about a lot was how choices and lack of choices being made for us can be very difficult for some reason. So for example having a job and the routine that comes with that can be very beneficial because you ultimately have to think less about basic things like where to be and at what time every day of the week. That takes pressure off your mind to make the basic decisions and reserve judgement for more complex tasks. So for example it isn't universally recommended to simply leave work if feeling stressed; for some people, that can make things worse and introduce more rumination and anxiety about what is going to happen next. So that general lack of certainty and how the mind tends to wonder about any possible eventualities - and obviously we mostly concern ourselves with the risk of the potential negative eventualities because we don't know what will happen either way - tends to lead us to feeling more anxious because we are not used to questioning and trying to seek answers for this sort of problem, which we wake up and don't normally have to think about.

In other words, decisions and options are more stressful than certainty, even when the certainties are negative. People often fantasise about having more power or more freedoms to choose what they want to do, but don't expect the ramifications of having to actually think about those options once the choice is made to consider yet more choices. And so any kind of upset around basic routine things like timings, travel, shopping, socialising etc etc where we have more options or don't know what the options are or those aren't communicated clearly, this creates more potential for cognitive dissonance that makes us feel scared and isolated. Even if we have no power to do anything about it, or we have more power but lack the knowledge or skills to cope with the situation.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Curls » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:12 am

Hey Laga! Hope you're feeling a bit better. I was chatting to a friend the other day and she was worried about everything. She was sick of everyone telling her 'chin up, be positive.' I told her to come around to my room, and just bitch with me about everything. I think it helped.

Do you feel like that? Remember when you're feeling like gooseberry fool, sometimes IT'S OK to feel like gooseberry fool. Let the feeling overwhelm you for a little while if it helps, but just remember in the back of your mind that things change, hell they may get a lot worse before they get better, but some days you just wake up with a much better mindset than others. The way YOU feel will change if nothing else. Human beings for all the gooseberry fool that goes on in their head, also have this amazing mechanism to cope with things. We create this bloody weird thing where we look back on events, sometimes even bad ones with rose tinted spectacles.* I imagine this won't be any different.

*Obviously I'm not saying we'll be going 'good times.' But we will remember the positives from this event, even if they are the extra time spent on the forum, the weird gooseberry fool we did to keep in touch with friends and family, the craziness of the supermarkets and the funny things we saw. You'll see

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Curls » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:14 am

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Lagamorph » Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:13 am

False wrote:my only major worry is that my niece will be alright as shes only around 18 months, and if I get it Im a little concerned how Ill get by if its bad - seeing as I live at least 50 miles / 1hr from nearest relatives and I dont have any friends around here that could help, so Ill be on my own

we'll be reet laga

Yeah it's my niece I worry for as well. Especially when my brother and sister-in-law work jobs that can't possibly be worked from home. My brother is probably pretty low risk, he works night shifts as a Mechanical Engineer so there aren't a lot of people at work. His wife works in a care home though so she needs to be super careful.
My grandma and parents worry me as well. My grandmother is in her mid-80s and absolutely does not want to follow the advice to stay at home for 3 months, still wants to go out to the shops and social clubs and things.
My mum has previously had Breast Cancer so her immune system isn't entirely what it once was, but she seems to be handling things really well and is in all honesty the one comforting me quite a bit the last few days since things started to hit me.
My dad is probably the most at risk. He's currently in Spain with work. Whilst the job he's on has finished, he's still in Spain but the hotel he's in is closing tomorrow and he still doesn't know what's happening. He's due to be moved to a job in the Netherlands at the start of April, but I'm doubtful if he'll be able to get there with travel restrictions changing so much. If he comes home (Which he's reluctant to do with his higher risk potential exposure) then by the time April comes around he may not be able to travel to the Netherlands at all.

False wrote:oh hey laga, Ive started playing disco elysium this week - and if you are looking for a diversion this is the most engaging thing in the entire strawberry floating universe, legit amazing

Id strongly recommend if you have some time to kill, you'll wonder where your week went

It is in my wish list as I've heard a lot of good things about it. I might need to bump it up and get it alongside some VR games since I just got a PC Headset as well, so at least I've got some things to immerse me.

Honestly, I've also just restarted Leisure Suit Larry - Magna Cum Laude, simply because it's just distracting idiotic fun, something a bit different from "Run around and kill the bad guys". Instead it's just bright, colourful (And pervy) games and cheesy humour.


Curls wrote:Hey Laga! Hope you're feeling a bit better.

Thanks. I'm starting to realise it really is fine to feel how I feel. With just having never felt like it before I honsetly just haven't had any idea how to really deal with it, and feeling so unlike myself is just where the sense of "This is wrong" comes from.

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