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PostRe: Depression
by Octoroc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:34 am

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by Earfolds » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:12 am

Tragic Magic wrote:Has anyone here ever suffered with it or known anyone who has? Care to shed any light on the whole thing as it does seem really odd to me how many people claim to have it. :?


Depression is very real, and a terrible thing to live with. As something fishy's said already, it's very complicated, and you get people with genuine reasons to be depressed as well as severely depressed people whose reasons aren't so clear. That's why psychologists have to do their job.

I do know that there are people who "fake" it, but it's not as common as you'd expect, I mean, it's about as bad as pretending you have autism, or HIV ─ nobody's gonna believe you, and you're not gonna be liked for faking it. :|

I've been diagnosed with bipolar depression, but I've refused medication on utilitarian grounds. In my mind, conversation is the best therapy.

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PostRe: Depression
by Fruits Punch Samurai » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:18 am

I've not really been happy this last year for me either, nothing has felt fufilling or fun, I don't really have any good friends either nd the teachers at college gave me hell. I ended up just drifting from place to place, skipping lessons and going to be as soon as I got home. I think depression can come when you realise the current situation you are in has no redeeming factors.

But I'm happy and excited now with university starting, I just hope I make a good impression with everyone and make some decent friends this year.

My worst year by far though was year 11 of secondary school, being bullied isn't fun at all. But depression is certainly appears when I have no friends.

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PostRe: Depression
by Henke » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:43 am

Like Fishy's brother, I'm suffering from (moderately severe: Henke's GP) depression for no obvious reason. I'm on my third or fourth week of medication and I'm still not sure whether or not it's helping. I'll need to give it a bit more time I guess.

However, it's a completely different beast from feeling upset or down. The analogy I've used is breaking a leg. Some people will really hurt their leg and think it's broken. Some people will feel the bone bend before snapping and jutting out of the skin. Does that even make sense? You really do know when it's some proper gooseberry fool though.

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PostRe: Depression
by Commander Jameson » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:05 am

Pull yourselves together, and stop whinging.

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PostRe: Depression
by Octoroc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:07 am

Henke wrote:Like Fishy's brother, I'm suffering from (moderately severe: Henke's GP) depression for no obvious reason. I'm on my third or fourth week of medication and I'm still not sure whether or not it's helping. I'll need to give it a bit more time I guess.

However, it's a completely different beast from feeling upset or down. The analogy I've used is breaking a leg. Some people will really hurt their leg and think it's broken. Some people will feel the bone bend before snapping and jutting out of the skin. Does that even make sense? You really do know when it's some proper **** though.


If that was the best analogy I could come up with I'd be f#cking depressed too.

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PostRe: Depression
by Barley » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:59 am

Some people in this thread need to get laid.

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by Stig » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:33 am

We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.

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PostRe: Depression
by Somebody Else's Problem » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:48 am

Neo Cortex wrote:
MCN wrote:I suffer from clinical depression, which is kind of understandable when you consider that I am culpable for the deaths of an unknown number of people, whilst at the same time being shot at with various heavy arms.

So, yeah, I'm currently on anti-depressants and on the waiting list to see a psychologist.

Other than that, I'm fine.


Wernt you a technician though?


Hence the word "culpable". And working in the middle of the night on an airfield, surrounded by floodlights, with mountain ranges on all sides, means you do get shot at a fair bit.

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PostRe: Depression
by abcd » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:57 am

Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in **** (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.



It's because you're not in everyones life Stig.

I imagine the world would be much better if we all had a bit of stig in our lives.

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PostRe: Depression
by Forest » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:02 pm

Ookami wrote:... I've refused medication on utilitarian grounds. In my mind, conversation is the best therapy.

Me too. About 3 years ago I dropped out of university and upon my return home I went to the GP and he diagnosed me with Depression but I preferred to see it as:
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I'm clinically fed-up.

I spent a few months going to a therapists privately, as the wait on the NHS was "6 months". The clock is still ticking on that one. :lol: The therapy along with starting at college again, for a third time, seemed to do the trick.

People that haven't had to deal with depression, from my experience, seemed completely confused that you can suffer from it without having gone through some awful event. Having something huge happen like what MCN's described is as damaging as a slow and insidious decline into misery, imo.

I've always been a miserable git since I was a teenager, I go through big ups and downs and sometimes there's no strawberry floating reason for it. Like now, for the past couple of days my "irrational" part of my brain has been tormenting myself with gooseberry fool that "I" just can't shake and it really brings me down. Next week I'll probably be fine.. or worse. :|

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PostRe: Depression
by Stig » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:08 pm

Stu wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in **** (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.



It's because you're not in everyones life Stig.

I imagine the world would be much better if we all had a bit of stig in our lives.


:mrgreen:

That's not really what I'm saying though is it. I'm just saying the UK is a great place to live compared to most of the other places in the world.

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by bigcheez2k3 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:13 pm

Stig wrote:
Stu wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in **** (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.



It's because you're not in everyones life Stig.

I imagine the world would be much better if we all had a bit of stig in our lives.


:mrgreen:

That's not really what I'm saying though is it. I'm just saying the UK is a great place to live compared to most of the other places in the world.


I believe what Stig is trying to say is that we could be living in France, that would make you depressed.

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PostRe: Depression
by Mini E » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:21 pm

Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.


This is very true. If you look at the worst areas of the world, quality of life wise, some areas of africa, south america, outer russia, the people there are so damn happy in general. the kids are smiley and laughing
And then you go to places where quality of life is so much better and they're clinically depressed about things like girls and falling out with someone or whatever... and just don't see the big picture at all.
That's just my opinion.

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by Chris » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:24 pm

Mini E wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.


This is very true. If you look at the worst areas of the world, quality of life wise, some areas of africa, south america, outer russia, the people there are so damn happy in general. the kids are smiley and laughing
And then you go to places where quality of life is so much better and they're clinically depressed about things like girls and falling out with someone or whatever... and just don't see the big picture at all.
That's just my opinion.


You're both being ridiculously reductionist. There's much more to depression than the society in which we live. We undoubtedly have a better standard of living than many countries in the world, but everything is relative. You're also ignoring the individual and personal factors which might lead to someone being diagnosed with depression.

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PostRe: Depression
by Mini E » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:29 pm

Chris wrote:
Mini E wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.


This is very true. If you look at the worst areas of the world, quality of life wise, some areas of africa, south america, outer russia, the people there are so damn happy in general. the kids are smiley and laughing
And then you go to places where quality of life is so much better and they're clinically depressed about things like girls and falling out with someone or whatever... and just don't see the big picture at all.
That's just my opinion.


You're both being ridiculously reductionist. There's much more to depression than the society in which we live. We undoubtedly have a better standard of living than many countries in the world, but everything is relative. You're also ignoring the individual and personal factors which might lead to someone being diagnosed with depression.


I'm not being "ridiculously reductionist" - I'm saying it how i see it. The short and simple truth is that a solid 90% of people in this country are living a simple existence where ignorance of the big picture is bliss. People know in the back of their minds about areas of africa etc, that's what things like comic relief do. But people in general do not stop and think about it, or go and do something about it. Therefore when little things happen like a break up, it seems to that person that their world has ended when they go home to their warm beds and cosy homes.

Yes there are going to be cases where individual and personal factors lead to a diagnosis of depression which is fair enough, some people have awful things in their life which happen and lead eventually to depression or mental health problems. Anything from being abused as a child to serious physical or psychological bullying. Fair enough. But apart from those exceptions, my point still stands.

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PostRe: Depression
by Stig » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:31 pm

bigcheez2k3 wrote:
Stig wrote:
Stu wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in **** (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.



It's because you're not in everyones life Stig.

I imagine the world would be much better if we all had a bit of stig in our lives.


:mrgreen:

That's not really what I'm saying though is it. I'm just saying the UK is a great place to live compared to most of the other places in the world.


I believe what Stig is trying to say is that we could be living in France, that would make you depressed.


Not really; in France people are happier. It has better weather, and a much better language.

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PostRe: Depression
by Stig » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:35 pm

Chris wrote:
Mini E wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.


This is very true. If you look at the worst areas of the world, quality of life wise, some areas of africa, south america, outer russia, the people there are so damn happy in general. the kids are smiley and laughing
And then you go to places where quality of life is so much better and they're clinically depressed about things like girls and falling out with someone or whatever... and just don't see the big picture at all.
That's just my opinion.


You're both being ridiculously reductionist. There's much more to depression than the society in which we live. We undoubtedly have a better standard of living than many countries in the world, but everything is relative. You're also ignoring the individual and personal factors which might lead to someone being diagnosed with depression.


I'm not really expressing it one way or the other am I? I'm just expressing my confusion over it.

It's probably both genetic and to do with people's attitudes in this country. British are forever thinking the 'grass is always greener.' Not helped by the media talking gooseberry fool of course.

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PostRe: Depression
by Chris » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:39 pm

Mini E wrote:
Chris wrote:
Mini E wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in gooseberry fool (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.


This is very true. If you look at the worst areas of the world, quality of life wise, some areas of africa, south america, outer russia, the people there are so damn happy in general. the kids are smiley and laughing
And then you go to places where quality of life is so much better and they're clinically depressed about things like girls and falling out with someone or whatever... and just don't see the big picture at all.
That's just my opinion.


You're both being ridiculously reductionist. There's much more to depression than the society in which we live. We undoubtedly have a better standard of living than many countries in the world, but everything is relative. You're also ignoring the individual and personal factors which might lead to someone being diagnosed with depression.


I'm not being "ridiculously reductionist" - I'm saying it how i see it. The short and simple truth is that a solid 90% of people in this country are living a simple existence where ignorance of the big picture is bliss. People know in the back of their minds about areas of africa etc, that's what things like comic relief do. But people in general do not stop and think about it, or go and do something about it. Therefore when little things happen like a break up, it seems to that person that their world has ended when they go home to their warm beds and cosy homes.

Yes there are going to be cases where individual and personal factors lead to a diagnosis of depression which is fair enough, some people have awful things in their life which happen and lead eventually to depression or mental health problems. Anything from being abused as a child to serious physical or psychological bullying. Fair enough. But apart from those exceptions, my point still stands.


This country is built on ignorance nowadays, so I agree with your point there. Anyone that sees the ending of a relationship as something to become 'depressed' about needs to get a bit of perspective. That's not depression at all though.

I think we've got our wires crossed a bit. I assumed you were trying to attribute proper, clinical depression to social factors alone. You weren't though, so I apologise.

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