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by Cuttooth » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:41 pm

Mini E wrote:I'm not being "ridiculously reductionist" - I'm saying it how i see it. The short and simple truth is that a solid 90% of people in this country are living a simple existence where ignorance of the big picture is bliss. People know in the back of their minds about areas of africa etc, that's what things like comic relief do. But people in general do not stop and think about it, or go and do something about it. Therefore when little things happen like a break up, it seems to that person that their world has ended when they go home to their warm beds and cosy homes.


So you think that people don't have the right to be depressed about aspects of their lives because other people in other areas of the world live with a poorer quality of life?

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PostRe: Depression
by Commander Jameson » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:42 pm

We live in a society that has to label everything. You can't be a bit fed-up, you have to be Depressed. People see it as an excuse, and doctors are more than happy to prescribe anti-depressants for almost any reason. Its an excuse for time off work, being socially inept or just being in a bad mood.

I'm happy to agree that depression when properly diagnosed is a true illness, I just think that it is too easy an excuse for most people.

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PostRe: Depression
by Stig » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:43 pm

Commander Jameson wrote:We live in a society that has to label everything. You can't be a bit fed-up, you have to be Depressed. People see it as an excuse, and doctors are more than happy to prescribe anti-depressants for almost any reason. Its an excuse for time off work, being socially inept or just being in a bad mood.

I'm happy to agree that depression when properly diagnosed is a true illness, I just think that it is too easy an excuse for most people.


I agree with this.

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PostRe: Depression
by Skarjo » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:47 pm

I think 'depression' is an important problem, but is massively exacerbated by a completely innapropriate need to make people who are possibly just a bit fed up feel like their problems are far grander.

Our tendency to label, single out and medicate people who just need to suck it up and deal with it means that not only are huge problems being created where there are none, but the real people with actual clinical depression don't get the care or recognition they really need.

EDIT; Basically, what CommJam said.

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PostRe: Depression
by Spike » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:50 pm

I'm a silly emo kid, so I'm always depressed. Nah, not really. I've got it good and I don't take it for granted, sure I get a little anxious/sad/angry when things arn't going my way but that quickly passes. It's all relative really, others have got it much worse than myself. Clinical depression is very much 'real' and isn't some made up disorder people use to get out of work/social occasions/whatever though I do agree with CJ that people are far too quick to jump to the conclusion it's depression.

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PostRe: Depression
by JiggerJay » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:53 pm

Stig wrote:
bigcheez2k3 wrote:
Stig wrote:
Stu wrote:
Stig wrote:We have by far the best quality of life and standard of living of any of our previous generations and we also live in one of the best countries to live in in the World. The majority of the World's population lives in **** (literally) and here we are sitting in our warm homes, with cars outside etc etc.

Yet a good chunk of the population is unhappy.

I don't get it.



It's because you're not in everyones life Stig.

I imagine the world would be much better if we all had a bit of stig in our lives.


:mrgreen:

That's not really what I'm saying though is it. I'm just saying the UK is a great place to live compared to most of the other places in the world.


I believe what Stig is trying to say is that we could be living in France, that would make you depressed.


Not really; in France people are happier. It has better weather, and a much better language.


I think what the Stig means that everyone is missing, is that here in the UK we have it so easy, we have a free national health care service, not many other countries can offer free nhs to their own people, look at america, one of the richest countries in the world, but it still don't know how to look after its people, You get sick, you're strawberry floated.

We dont have war (in this country) we dont have half the gang problem that most other countries have, oh noes 22 people odd have been killed by knifes this year, I bet more than that have died this morning in palastine.

I have no real sympathy for most of the people on depression, because gooseberry fool could be so much worse.

Oh noes our inflation is at 10% almost, oh noes looks at the hyperinflation over at zimbabwe, I would strawberry floating hate to be living there.

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PostRe: Depression
by Octoroc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:06 pm

JiggerJay wrote:A load of bollocks


What a load of bollocks.

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PostRe: Depression
by JiggerJay » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:09 pm

Octoroc wrote:
JiggerJay wrote:A load of bollocks


What a load of bollocks.


go take some anti-depressants and be done with it

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PostRe: Depression
by Mini E » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:09 pm

Cuttooth wrote:
Mini E wrote:I'm not being "ridiculously reductionist" - I'm saying it how i see it. The short and simple truth is that a solid 90% of people in this country are living a simple existence where ignorance of the big picture is bliss. People know in the back of their minds about areas of africa etc, that's what things like comic relief do. But people in general do not stop and think about it, or go and do something about it. Therefore when little things happen like a break up, it seems to that person that their world has ended when they go home to their warm beds and cosy homes.


So you think that people don't have the right to be depressed about aspects of their lives because other people in other areas of the world live with a poorer quality of life?


I'm didn't mention the "right" to be depressed once.

I'm saying that people who do claim to get depressed, not upset or down or kinda gutted, but properly, medically depressed, about a break up or an event like that, need to look at the big picture.

And there are aspects of life even in the UK that are understandable for people to get depressed about. Like i have already said, things which can cause psychological harm to a person as a child , or even as an adult, do happen in the UK. And anything such as these or something really life-changing such as long term unemployment etc... ok. but stuff like breaking up with someone...

Don't just quote the first half of my post. If you're going to respond to it, respond to it all. The quote you've made and the point you've made makes it look like you haven't even read the second part of my post.

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PostRe: Depression
by Octoroc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:19 pm

JiggerJay wrote:
Octoroc wrote:
JiggerJay wrote:A load of ********


What a load of ********.


go take some anti-depressants and be done with it



Really? From your post I would have thought you'd prescribe a subscription to The Economist.

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PostRe: Depression
by JiggerJay » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:40 pm

Octoroc wrote:
JiggerJay wrote:
Octoroc wrote:
JiggerJay wrote:A load of ********


What a load of ********.


go take some anti-depressants and be done with it



Really? From your post I would have thought you'd prescribe a subscription to The Economist.


BBC news will do just fine.

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PostRe: Depression
by Windswept-Scotsman » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:43 pm

Were to start ?

I have depression.

I have had this affliction for most of my life. ( I am now in my 30's)

I have always just cast it aside and refused medical intervention until last year.

I have been diagnosed as having a chemical imbalance in part of my brain.

I am currently on treatment, part of which is 150mg modified release Venlafaxine ( efexor* xl )
( took a long time to buld up to this daily dose )

I have constant and immediate mood changes, and a very quick temper.

I have suicidal thoughts, but have stopped thinking of ways to "end" myself. ( see medication)

I am in a very stable relationship and have been for near on the last decade.

I own my own home and car(s).

I hardly ever go out anymore.

I am gainfully employed, but have been off work for the last full year with this illness.

I see a Psychiatrist every few weeks. starting to see a new one as of tommorrow.

I sometimes spend most of the day in bed sleeping.

I can sometimes have tonnes of energy, then suddenly feel drained and have a need to be alone and/or asleep.

I have gone from being a highly functional high level manager, who is the / has been the envy of many of my piers.
to being socially inept, outwardly awkward hermit, who rarely ventures out past the garden gate.

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PostRe: Depression
by Octoroc » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:52 pm

That sounds pretty bad. Have you tried watching the BBC news?

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PostRe: Depression
by Cuttooth » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:55 pm

Mini E wrote:I'm didn't mention the "right" to be depressed once.

I'm saying that people who do claim to get depressed, not upset or down or kinda gutted, but properly, medically depressed, about a break up or an event like that, need to look at the big picture.


OK fair enough, nobody should throw around medical terms as an excuse for superficial reasons and their own failures, like CJ and others have said.

And there are aspects of life even in the UK that are understandable for people to get depressed about. Like i have already said, things which can cause psychological harm to a person as a child , or even as an adult, do happen in the UK. And anything such as these or something really life-changing such as long term unemployment etc... ok. but stuff like breaking up with someone...


The way you word this suggests you think that it takes a massive event such as a death or a tormented childhood to cause depression, that those who constantly feel down about themselves and their own lives should be reminded that there are much worse places to live in the world when that's not going to help them. It's like you think most sufferers are being a bit too self obsessed for their own good.

I don't suffer from depression myself but I see no reason why I can't feel my life is awful compared to most, relatively speaking.

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PostRe: Depression
by Drawlight » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:57 pm

I've studied depression, (go A Level Psychology!), and whilst I'm acutely aware of the fact that I'm not depressed, I will say that I sometimes spend a couple of days evey couple of weeks in a foul mood, where I simply wish to be alone, with no desire to communicate in any way shape or form with friends and family, and any strangers, and its strawberry floating horrible. I feel perpetually guilty and worthless and during those days in particular I become very aware of how much of a life sucking eech I am on the world and everyone close to me.

And I would not put my general mental state at the moment as either particually healthy or happy.

But yeah, definately not properly, clinically depressed, and I have no wish to trivialise the condition.

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PostRe: Depression
by Eighthours » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:59 pm

Windswept-Scotsman wrote:I have gone from being the envy of many of my piers.
to being...


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PostRe: Depression
by Karl_ » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:59 pm

In this topic we make fun of a depressed person.

Smooth, guys.

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PostRe: Depression
by Windswept-Scotsman » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:02 pm

Eighthours wrote:
Windswept-Scotsman wrote:I have gone from being the envy of many of my piers.
to being...


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Lol ! :lol:

Did I use the wrong spelling ??

At least that put a wee smile on my face.

I chortled !

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PostRe: Depression
by Eighthours » Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:06 pm

Windswept-Scotsman wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
Windswept-Scotsman wrote:I have gone from being the envy of many of my piers.
to being...


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Lol ! :lol:

Did I use the wrong spelling ??

At least that put a wee smile on my face.

I chortled !


No probs, fella. I hope that new psychiatrist + pills = win.

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PostRe: Depression
by Somebody Else's Problem » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:54 pm

Karlprof wrote:In this topic we make fun of a depressed person.

Smooth, guys.


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