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Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:47 am
by Moggy
captain red dog wrote:his reputation is probably better than most British PMs of the last 30 years!


So's Harold Shipman's but that doesn't make him a great guy. ;)

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:53 pm
by Kanbei
captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Martin McGuinness died then. Could have seen that coming a mile off. He was extremely ill looking in that last interview.

I may not agree with deeds in his past, but the man truly did care for peace/unity in later life. Fair play to him.

He should have had the decency not to seek power personally, in my opinion. In some strange way I can accept his acts during the troubles as part of war, but I'm never really happy to see those "military" leaders trying to become political leaders.


We wouldn't be where we are today without McGuinness. Simple as that.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:32 pm
by jiggles
captain red dog wrote:
Squinty wrote:Martin McGuinness died then. Could have seen that coming a mile off. He was extremely ill looking in that last interview.

I may not agree with deeds in his past, but the man truly did care for peace/unity in later life. Fair play to him.

He should have had the decency not to seek power personally, in my opinion. In some strange way I can accept his acts during the troubles as part of war, but I'm never really happy to see those "military" leaders trying to become political leaders.


I think The Irish Times obituary put it best:

Over subsequent days some newspaper letter writers and phone-ins objected to what they termed whitewashing of his record as an IRA boss. But there was also widespread if sometimes reluctant recognition that he had used blood-stained credentials to a peaceable end.


He succeeded as a peaceful political leader because of his past, not in spite of it. Literally leading by example.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:51 pm
by Moggy
Theresa May has launched an attack on Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn for sending his son to a grammar school.

At Prime Minister's Questions she said: "Typical Labour, take the advantage and pull up the ladder behind you."

Mr Corbyn had accused the government of finding money for Mrs May's grammar school "vanity project" while cutting funding for other schools.

The Labour leader's son Ben went to a North London grammar school although Mr Corbyn was reported to be against it.

The issue is said to have led to the break-up of Mr Corbyn's marriage in the late 1990s, with his then wife Claudia insisting that the child should not attend a local Islington comprehensive school.

During Wednesday's clashes in the Commons Mr Corbyn accused Mrs May of "betraying a generation of young people by cutting the funding for every child" with a new funding formula for schools in England.

"Children will have fewer teachers, larger classes, fewer subjects to choose from and all the Prime Minister can do is focus on her grammar school vanity project that can only ever benefit a few children."

He said the government found no extra money in the Budget for schools but offered £320m for Mrs May's grammar school "vanity" project.

The prime minister said the funding formula would be fair to all but stressed that it was still at the consultation stage and had not been finalised.

She then rounded on Mr Corbyn and his front bench team, listing those who attended a private school or a grammar school.

"He sent his own child to a grammar school, he himself went to a grammar school," she added, pointing at Mr Corbyn and accusing him of hypocrisy.

Mr Corbyn insisted he wanted a "decent, fair opportunity" for every child in every school.

Mrs May told him: "He says he wants opportunities for all children, he says he wants good school places for all children - then he should jolly well support the policies we're putting forward."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39354491


I'm no fan of Corbyn but she really is a disgusting human being.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:05 pm
by Squinty
She really is a strawberry floating idiot.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:47 pm
by That
Theresa May is utterly reprehensible.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:36 pm
by Lex-Man
So she is blaming Corbyn for a decision that he didn't even make and argued against. :fp:

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:44 pm
by Preezy
"Jolly well" - steady on Tess, it's not after the watershed!

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:41 pm
by Squinty
Someone should throw her down a jolly well.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:53 pm
by Hexx
Karl wrote:Theresa May is utterly reprehensible.


Yea but she saved us from PM Johnson or PM Gove.

She's a sweetheart :wub:

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 10:54 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Hexx wrote:
Karl wrote:Theresa May is utterly reprehensible.


Yea but she saved us from PM Johnson or PM Gove.

She's a sweetheart :wub:


That's like saying the Yorkshire Ripper saved us from Charles Manson and the Boston Strangler.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2017 7:34 pm
by DML
I'll be getting out the champagne when she dies. Hateful cow.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:57 pm
by Squinty
So, by all accounts, it's looking like article 50 will be triggered next week.

This is gonna be a really interesting two years. I look forward to observing with you lot :lol:

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:59 pm
by Errkal
I just hope that it will come to it, she will say lol jokes and we will all move on.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:02 pm
by Moggy
Hopefully the European Union changes its name just before Article 50 is triggered and we end up remaining part of the Union of Europe.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:45 pm
by Errkal
Moggy wrote:Hopefully the European Union changes its name just before Article 50 is triggered and we end up remaining part of the Union of Europe.


Maybe there will be postal strike, or May will refuse to attach postage and it will be returned.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:59 pm
by Lagamorph
Maybe the EU will just reply "Wir sprechen kein Englisch"

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:18 pm
by Garth
So I was watching Countryfile this evening ( :shifty: ) and a Welsh sheep farmer was saying 80% of his money comes from EU subsidies :dread:

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:01 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Garth wrote:So I was watching Countryfile this evening ( :shifty: ) and a Welsh sheep farmer was saying 80% of his money comes from EU subsidies :dread:


I was forced to watch it at my mother in laws and heard that too. Quite shocking statistic although that did say that the majority of developed countries subsidise their agricultural industries in order to keep food prices down. To what degree I don't know.

Re: The Politics Thread 3.0

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:11 am
by Lagamorph
Garth wrote:So I was watching Countryfile this evening ( :shifty: ) and a Welsh sheep farmer was saying 80% of his money comes from EU subsidies :dread:

Bet he voted leave as well. The farmers around here were hugely pro-leave to the point they were putting up billboards in their fields that were near roads.