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by DML » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:40 pm

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Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/846750603409854464



An interesting point.

I actually thought The Guardian cartoon was quite amusing, if a little obvious of an image (did assume however it was vag prone bone, not sodomy!). The Mail article lacks humour. Swing and a miss.


One is a cartoon based on actual policies. The other is pure (and quite frankly ridiculous) sexism based on nothing on a day of far more important news. It's barely a point at all.

It's less a swing and a miss and more why on earth did they ever swing?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:44 pm

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/846750603409854464



An interesting point.

I actually thought The Guardian cartoon was quite amusing, if a little obvious of an image (did assume however it was vag prone bone, not sodomy!). The Mail article lacks humour. Swing and a miss.


While I don't condone the Guardian cartoon, it is a completely different message. The "bent over allowing the American president to strawberry float 'em in the ass" is not based on her being female, but based on the PM being subservient to the US leader.

Like how Blair was the "lapdog" of Bush and the Mirror ran this page:

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While the Mail's front page was more "phwroar! Look at the legs, these aren't serious politicians but girly legs!"

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:34 pm

Meep wrote:I am kind of down today as I realised my country is in a seriously bad position. I was reading an article on the forecast for post-Brexit economics and NI is pretty much the most heavily hit part of the UK bar none, plus the political situation is in meltdown.

For the first time in my adult life I am kind it hard to have any kind of optimism about the future Northern Ireland. I cannot see anyway that things will not get worse over the next few years and it is really troubling. In the past I could always pick out potentials for good outcome but it seems doors are slamming shut all over. :(

I only hope that violence does not experience an resurgence on top of everything else.


The only optimism I have about Northern Ireland is the young people seem to be leaning more to the left. Hopefully, future generations will move past tribal voting, which always ends up with a barely functional executive.

I have a lot of concerns about where we are going to end up. I notice so much apathy about the political situation. I often think to myself that the people on the mainland must think we are a pack of clowns who are dragging them down. It is embarrassing as strawberry float.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:18 pm

twitter.com/hendopolis/status/846834799000141825



Telling others to get a life after writing a long article about 2 middle aged women's legs...without a hint of irony.

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by Wrathy » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:43 pm

Squinty wrote:
Meep wrote:I am kind of down today as I realised my country is in a seriously bad position. I was reading an article on the forecast for post-Brexit economics and NI is pretty much the most heavily hit part of the UK bar none, plus the political situation is in meltdown.

For the first time in my adult life I am kind it hard to have any kind of optimism about the future Northern Ireland. I cannot see anyway that things will not get worse over the next few years and it is really troubling. In the past I could always pick out potentials for good outcome but it seems doors are slamming shut all over. :(

I only hope that violence does not experience an resurgence on top of everything else.


The only optimism I have about Northern Ireland is the young people seem to be leaning more to the left. Hopefully, future generations will move past tribal voting, which always ends up with a barely functional executive.

I have a lot of concerns about where we are going to end up. I notice so much apathy about the political situation. I often think to myself that the people on the mainland must think we are a pack of clowns who are dragging them down. It is embarrassing as strawberry float.


People on the mainland have no idea what we're doing. They aren't even aware of Northern Ireland's complete failure. RHI doesn't register and the fact that Stormont has had elections and is now about to collapse is something that they simply can't care about because their ignorance of the six counties is so complete. I'm never asked about it and nobody even makes reference to it, despite my extremely strong North Coast drawl.

In many ways, when you talk to them about it, you get the impression they don't want to know or, if they have an opinion at all, that we should join the republic and allow the festering undercurrent of English nationalism to come to full boil.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lotus » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:00 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I've noticed that most articles that are considered sexism towards women on the daily mail are actually written by women. The most demeaning articles and stories about women are usually also in women's mags which are also written by women.

And largely consumed by women. But they've clearly been forced by the patriarchy to internalise misogyny (no doubt its plan all along), so you can't really blame them.

As for a united Ireland, wouldn't mind seeing it TBH. Ultimately makes things simpler, and if Scotland goes too, might pave the way for four separate countries rather than the unbalanced and divided UK, although I can't ever see Wales being fully independent.

That DM cover. :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
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by Lex-Man » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:28 am

I really interested in the worst case scenario of this whole Brexit thing. Especially the reaction by the people really backing it. If we lose Scotland, Northern Island and Gibraltar and the economy collapses. It'll be interesting to watch.

I wonder if they'll keep blaming everybody else or just start ignoring the fact they voted for it.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:31 am

lex-man wrote:I really interested in the worst case scenario of this whole Brexit thing. Especially the reaction by the people really backing it. If we lose Scotland, Northern Island and Gibraltar and the economy collapses. It'll be interesting to watch.

I wonder if they'll keep blaming everybody else or just start ignoring the fact they voted for it.


It all depends on why they wanted to vote out though. There's a lot of different reasons why different people voted to leave.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Benzin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:32 am

We all know that if it fails it'll be because either the EU wouldn't let us have everything we wanted or because of Remainers wanting it to fail...

I did see yesterday that Farage said that if we get a bad deal he'll leave the country... Grade A tosser that he is.

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by Moggy » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:36 am

Benzin wrote:We all know that if it fails it'll be because either the EU wouldn't let us have everything we wanted or because of Remainers wanting it to fail...

I did see yesterday that Farage said that if we get a bad deal he'll leave the country... Grade A tosser that he is.


That's fine though because he'd be an ex-pat not an immigrant.

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by Snowcannon » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:55 am

Moggy wrote:
Benzin wrote:We all know that if it fails it'll be because either the EU wouldn't let us have everything we wanted or because of Remainers wanting it to fail...

I did see yesterday that Farage said that if we get a bad deal he'll leave the country... Grade A tosser that he is.


That's fine though because he'd be an ex-pat not an immigrant.


:lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by DML » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:02 am

Can't believe the Mail have doubled down!!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:22 am

DML wrote:Can't believe the Mail have doubled down!!


Stop being such a snowflake :datass:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hexx » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:46 pm

Prize twunt Livingstone continues setting new levels of smug cuntitude ahead of Tribunal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... laboration

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:38 pm

Hexx wrote:Prize twunt Livingstone continues setting new levels of smug cuntitude ahead of Tribunal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... laboration


He's like the History Channel Aliens guy but with Nazis. :lol:

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by Memento Mori » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:58 pm

Moggy wrote:
Hexx wrote:Prize twunt Livingstone continues setting new levels of smug cuntitude ahead of Tribunal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... laboration


He's like the History Channel Aliens guy but with Nazis. :lol:

Ken Livingstone needs to speak to someone about his nazi tourettes.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Meep » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:01 pm

Wrathy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Meep wrote:I am kind of down today as I realised my country is in a seriously bad position. I was reading an article on the forecast for post-Brexit economics and NI is pretty much the most heavily hit part of the UK bar none, plus the political situation is in meltdown.

For the first time in my adult life I am kind it hard to have any kind of optimism about the future Northern Ireland. I cannot see anyway that things will not get worse over the next few years and it is really troubling. In the past I could always pick out potentials for good outcome but it seems doors are slamming shut all over. :(

I only hope that violence does not experience an resurgence on top of everything else.


The only optimism I have about Northern Ireland is the young people seem to be leaning more to the left. Hopefully, future generations will move past tribal voting, which always ends up with a barely functional executive.

I have a lot of concerns about where we are going to end up. I notice so much apathy about the political situation. I often think to myself that the people on the mainland must think we are a pack of clowns who are dragging them down. It is embarrassing as strawberry float.


People on the mainland have no idea what we're doing. They aren't even aware of Northern Ireland's complete failure. RHI doesn't register and the fact that Stormont has had elections and is now about to collapse is something that they simply can't care about because their ignorance of the six counties is so complete. I'm never asked about it and nobody even makes reference to it, despite my extremely strong North Coast drawl.

In many ways, when you talk to them about it, you get the impression they don't want to know or, if they have an opinion at all, that we should join the republic and allow the festering undercurrent of English nationalism to come to full boil.

By the contrast, the Irish government have been busy pleading our case to the other EU member states. It's pretty obvious that Dublin cares more about us than London seems to. I wonder how long it will take before a majority of the population here to come to the same conclusion...

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lex-Man » Thu Mar 30, 2017 7:02 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Hexx wrote:Prize twunt Livingstone continues setting new levels of smug cuntitude ahead of Tribunal

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... laboration


He's like the History Channel Aliens guy but with Nazis. :lol:

Ken Livingstone needs to speak to someone about his nazi tourettes.


He's pretty much done.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Wrathy » Thu Mar 30, 2017 8:33 pm

Meep wrote:By the contrast, the Irish government have been busy pleading our case to the other EU member states. It's pretty obvious that Dublin cares more about us than London seems to. I wonder how long it will take before a majority of the population here to come to the same conclusion...


Well, I certainly am. I'm from a pretty staunch unionist background and have always been a unionist. Alas! Having lived in England and seeing just how far removed the Northern Irish idea of being British is from reality, along with the sheer apathy of the English towards basically everything (not just recently in RHI / border / not having an actual government, but historically) to do with us, I've been drifting in support of a United Ireland. At this point I don't think it's quite practical or anything, but Brexit will destroy us so I don't see the point in using practicality as a guideline anymore.

Which is the kind of ridiculous statement which shows just how wacky politics has gotten!


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