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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:52 pm

captain red dog wrote:
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Garth wrote:What's the point of this royal yacht? Is the modern world supposed to be impressed with us sending Charles and Camilla to their shores in this thing?


To the shitlickers that support this yes that is what they think.

In the olden days we had a yacht that we did deals on they want to go back to the past so this is needed.

Dick heads.

Honestly the depressing thing is that a lot of nations, particularly in the East and Far East, actually would be impressed with that kind of thing.


It’s no longer the 19th century and we are not trying to impress natives who are part of cargo cults. They wouldn’t give a gooseberry fool.

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by KK » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:59 pm

A woman was sprayed in the face with a "strong acid solution", leaving her with life-changing injuries, police have said.

The 26-year-old was attacked as she walked home along Marsh Wall, near South Quay station, at about 19:00 GMT Wednesday, Scotland Yard said.

She is being treated for burn injuries to her leg and face.

Tests confirmed the substance was a strong acid solution, police said. No arrests have been made.
The woman did not see her attacker, and police are checking CCTV in an effort to identify the suspect.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42504642

This problem, and it is now a big problem, needs to be a top priority for the police, government and mayor. It’s so horrific. There’s no reason ID and paperwork shouldn’t be required for the very strong stuff in specialist outlets. This ain’t no Domestos.

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by captain red dog » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:04 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
Garth wrote:What's the point of this royal yacht? Is the modern world supposed to be impressed with us sending Charles and Camilla to their shores in this thing?


To the shitlickers that support this yes that is what they think.

In the olden days we had a yacht that we did deals on they want to go back to the past so this is needed.

Dick heads.

Honestly the depressing thing is that a lot of nations, particularly in the East and Far East, actually would be impressed with that kind of thing.


It’s no longer the 19th century and we are not trying to impress natives who are part of cargo cults. They wouldn’t give a gooseberry fool.

No we are trying to impress Middle Eastern oil barons and corrupt regimes who crave the legitimacy a royal visit would bring, particularly being hosted on a royal yacht.

I don't like it and personally wouldn't fund it but I think it is naive to suggest it wouldn't have benefits.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:17 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
Garth wrote:What's the point of this royal yacht? Is the modern world supposed to be impressed with us sending Charles and Camilla to their shores in this thing?


To the shitlickers that support this yes that is what they think.

In the olden days we had a yacht that we did deals on they want to go back to the past so this is needed.

Dick heads.

Honestly the depressing thing is that a lot of nations, particularly in the East and Far East, actually would be impressed with that kind of thing.


It’s no longer the 19th century and we are not trying to impress natives who are part of cargo cults. They wouldn’t give a gooseberry fool.

No we are trying to impress Middle Eastern oil barons and corrupt regimes who crave the legitimacy a royal visit would bring, particularly being hosted on a royal yacht.

I don't like it and personally wouldn't fund it but I think it is naive to suggest it wouldn't have benefits.


So to save this country’s arse following Brexit we need to all club together to buy a yacht for our monarch so that oil barons and corrupt regimes will chuck us a few quid? :slol:

That might be true in the minds of people like Boris Johnson and the 50 fools that came up with this lottery scam, but nobody in the world is going to give a gooseberry fool.

You’re right that they might crave a royal visit, but we don’t need to fund a £120m boat by conning desperate people into playing a new lottery game. Send Prince strawberry floating Andrew over on an EasyJet.

A £120m boat will not impress those who are capable of buying this sort of gooseberry fool: http://uk.businessinsider.com/most-expe ... ot-tubs-10

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by Grumpy David » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:45 am

Would prefer we "frack baby frack". Dig up the huge supply of shale gas we're sitting on. Destabilising the economies of Russia and the Middle East by reducing our dependence on them is fine by me.

Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.

2 brand new rapid growth industries...don't need to leave the EU to do either...but a nice source of tax revenue and a politically significant act.

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by Benzin » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:01 am

Given the general response fracking seems to be getting, I'm sure the Tories would be absolutely fine pissing off more of the country's electorate...

Besides, we'd probably outsource any energy stuff to EDF like with that new nuclear power station...

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by KK » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:03 pm

The FTSE 100 surged by around £141bn during 2017, according to the London stock exchange.

The FTSE 250 index, which contains medium-sized companies, gained around £52bn as it also hit record highs, marking a great year for London markets.

That fed into the $9 trillion surge in global share prices during this year (as measured by MSCI).

GBP rose against the US dollar, the highest since September, reaching $1.35.

The FTSE 100 however has performed far less well than the US stock market, the two leading US indexes both rising by more than 20% so far this year.

They have been further boosted by President Donald Trump's sweeping tax reform.

Under the changes, the US corporate tax rate will fall from 35% to 21% in 2018.

Joe Lynam, BBC

FTSE 100 has ended the year with a new (all time) record high. The main index of shares listed in London ended 2017 at 7,687 up 7.6% on last year.
The mining sector saw the biggest gains this year while Utilities such as water and electricity were the weakest.

Richard Stone, The Share Centre

For the second year in a row the FTSE100 has ended the year at an all-time high. Personal investors will have been relieved this year by a respite from the high volatility seen in the last couple of years. The level of volatility this year has though been remarkably low by historical standards and this has perhaps meant fewer trading opportunities for those investors who trade more actively.

Market commentators have expressed concerns about valuation levels for some time indicating a correction may be on the horizon. However, the market appears to be shrugging off any such concerns and continuing to go from strength to strength. Higher global growth forecasts, a continuation of relatively relaxed monetary policy and a loosening of fiscal policy specifically in the United States are all helping support equities. A personal investor who put money into a FTSE 100 tracker fund at the start of this year will have seen a return of nearly 8% with a dividend payout (yield) of over 3% on top of that.

With base rates now at just 0.5% and returns on cash remaining depressed the stark choice for investors seeking to drive an income from their capital is clear and this too helps drive demand for equities and equity based collectives (funds).

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by BID0 » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:26 pm

Continuing investment in renewable would be better as it's the end game for energy and something we could also export to other countries instead of leaving other countries like China and India to lead the way and dominate in that field instead.

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by Meep in Heavenly Peace » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:31 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Would prefer we "frack baby frack". Dig up the huge supply of shale gas we're sitting on. Destabilising the economies of Russia and the Middle East by reducing our dependence on them is fine by me.

Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.

2 brand new rapid growth industries...don't need to leave the EU to do either...but a nice source of tax revenue and a politically significant act.

Whilst normally I dislike nimbyism, I have seen articles on water table contamination that demand pause for thought. Initially I was quite in favour of gas as far more economical than other fuels but I have been forced to reconsider. American may operate on the principle of assuming things are safe until proved otherwise but we should hold ourselves to a higher health and environmental standard.

Also, the British Isles are an extremely rich area for wind and tidal power so we've made massive step forwards in 2017 in generating from renewable. Seems to make more sense to invest in that than tearing up the countryside and pumping the land full of chemicals for another finite resource.

Of course, the most immediate way to save money in energy generation would be the terminate the Hinkley C mess. Ludicrously expensive unproven generator that is likely to be obsolete and outcompeted at every turn by solar, wind and tidal by the time it's up and running and battery tech makes base load power much less important. Germany is actually in the process of phasing out nuclear energy because it's been made redundant. Building a whole new generation of plants for decades to come is madness.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Lagamorph » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:43 pm

Wind Turbine construction in the UK faces the same problem as new/affordable house construction.
Everyone wants it, but nobody wants it near them personally, it should always be 'somewhere else'

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:47 pm

Grumpy David wrote:Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.


This makes sense. Which is why it will never happen.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:08 pm

Squinty wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.


This makes sense. Which is why it will never happen.


Grumpy David is Stormzy’s alt account, confirmed.


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by Knoyleo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:23 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.


This makes sense. Which is why it will never happen.


Grumpy David is Stormzy’s alt account, confirmed.



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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Grumpy David » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:38 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Grumpy David wrote:Legalise, tax and regulate weed at the same time.


This makes sense. Which is why it will never happen.


Grumpy David is Stormzy’s alt account, confirmed.



Close. He's a friend of a friend. 8-)

Also met Big Narstie, a regular on This Week. 8-)

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by captain red dog » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:31 pm

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
Garth wrote:What's the point of this royal yacht? Is the modern world supposed to be impressed with us sending Charles and Camilla to their shores in this thing?


To the shitlickers that support this yes that is what they think.

In the olden days we had a yacht that we did deals on they want to go back to the past so this is needed.

Dick heads.

Honestly the depressing thing is that a lot of nations, particularly in the East and Far East, actually would be impressed with that kind of thing.


It’s no longer the 19th century and we are not trying to impress natives who are part of cargo cults. They wouldn’t give a gooseberry fool.

No we are trying to impress Middle Eastern oil barons and corrupt regimes who crave the legitimacy a royal visit would bring, particularly being hosted on a royal yacht.

I don't like it and personally wouldn't fund it but I think it is naive to suggest it wouldn't have benefits.


So to save this country’s arse following Brexit we need to all club together to buy a yacht for our monarch so that oil barons and corrupt regimes will chuck us a few quid? :slol:

That might be true in the minds of people like Boris Johnson and the 50 fools that came up with this lottery scam, but nobody in the world is going to give a gooseberry fool.

You’re right that they might crave a royal visit, but we don’t need to fund a £120m boat by conning desperate people into playing a new lottery game. Send Prince strawberry floating Andrew over on an EasyJet.

A £120m boat will not impress those who are capable of buying this sort of gooseberry fool: http://uk.businessinsider.com/most-expe ... ot-tubs-10

I agree which is why I wouldn't fund it, but provided they are open and transparent with how it is funded and don't use the taxpayers for it then I don't really see an issue.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:41 pm

The Sun staff amusing themselves...

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Wanking joins the ranks of SpaceX billionaire Elon Musk and former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in warning against the growing dangers of artificial intelligence.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5232508/f ... -will-end/

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Knoyleo » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:46 pm

They must need some way to pass the time between doing hatchet jobs on the police service, implying they're utterly incompetent to a man, rather than chronically underfunded.

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by captain red dog » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:40 pm

EberKneesUp wrote:They must need some way to pass the time between doing hatchet jobs on the police service, implying they're utterly incompetent to a man, rather than chronically underfunded.

Yep, not to mention that with modern technology in a country as safe as the UK, criminals will target the types of crime that can't be easily solved. Frankly a 50% success rate is impressive in my opinion.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:46 pm

captain red dog wrote:
EberKneesUp wrote:They must need some way to pass the time between doing hatchet jobs on the police service, implying they're utterly incompetent to a man, rather than chronically underfunded.

Yep, not to mention that with modern technology in a country as safe as the UK, criminals will target the types of crime that can't be easily solved. Frankly a 50% success rate is impressive in my opinion.


They have to keep their readers thinking that crime is out of control (it isn’t, but fear sells) and that it’s the fault of incompetent police, rather than government cuts. Otherwise those readers might start thinking that the right wing is doing a piss poor job....

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by Lagamorph » Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:35 pm

Another reshuffle incoming

Theresa May is set to fire up to a quarter of her cabinet and wants to offer Boris Johnson a new role as she prepares to launch 2018 with a domestic policy blitz designed to convince voters she can do more than Brexit. May has decided to hold a reshuffle in January to bring in younger MPs after concluding her government needs a new year reboot.

Patrick McLoughlin, the party chairman; Justine Greening, the education secretary; Greg Clark, the business secretary; Chris Grayling, the transport secretary; and Andrea Leadsom, the leader of the Commons, have all been tipped for the chop by May’s aides. Sajid Javid, the communities secretary, is also vulnerable, but May’s determination to put housing at the heart of her domestic agenda could save him. Jeremy Hunt, the health secretary, is tipped to take over the Cabinet Office role vacated when May’s closest cabinet ally Damian Green was forced out before Christmas, but the prime minister is not expected to give Hunt the title of first secretary of state.

Chancellor Philip Hammond is safe in his post, but senior May aides want to persuade Boris Johnson to take a souped-up Brexit delivery job, probably based in the business department, after a turbulent time at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news ... -2ndt358dn

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