GRcade Musician's Club - Do You "Do" Music?

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by Ad7 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:07 am

Green Gecko wrote:wtf, I got booked for a random gig tomorrow (guy found my message in spam) and it turns out to be the same venue I played twice in 2007 before it closed down. what are the chances.


Excellent! What type of genre/set do you do?

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by Green Gecko » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:01 am

3 songs with electric guitar and two instrumentals including one part of sonata by Jose Merlin. Not sure I'd say a blend of psychedelic alt rock and and grunge. But my vocal is increasingly punky. I mean I sing but I dirty it up... So hard rock / metal then.

Could have gone worse, my amp modeller went completely tits up even though I ran though my monitors and practiced my set on three separate occasions, think input jack has completely come away from the board now. It was never that good so a mistake to use it live, and there was some ground loop problem creating horrible glitching noises as that's how a digital or software box responds to gooseberry fool like that. Fluked it for the instrumentals 13 minutes late with no audio problems and then my guitar cut out again, so I just asked to borrow a guitar from the audience, kicked everything aside and had to belt out my vocal (and guitar) with no amplification at all, bled all over the guys guitar, took the skin off back of all playing fingers and thumb on the steel strings and cleaned it up after. I was like, sorry i bled all over your guitar after insisting I wouldn't damage it. I insisted the organiser go and get a lemon to clean it with lol. Somehow I managed to finish my set.

That's life eh, anyway apparently my set was good despite stupid gooseberry fool. The guy lending me the guitar thanked me after his set for some reason which was nice. I'll just take my flamenco guitar next time and mics... Although actually I can't, because they're phantom powered :fp:. Their breakout box didn't even seem to correspond numerically to their mixer channels, and the mixer was behind a door behind the bar with the tech (who was also a barman) jumping between rooms. They said they didn't have a house amp but there were two in the other room. Thought I could save my back caring about 25kg on the train so I was right to bring the modeller but strawberry float me that was frustrating.

PA was mackie but ffs at least have someone on the deck. They seemed to insist on turning down any unused channels, while not knowing which channel was which... Just turn them all up for strawberry float sake, there's only one mic and if there's nothing in the DI box there or nothing in the breakout you won't get anything but silence. Those speakers are built to withstand the odd pop and click. Weird protocol, especially if no one is there to run the mixing desk anyway. I asked if I could help and they said no because it's behind the bar. Who the strawberry float puts a mixing desk behind a bar?

I'll fix the amp modeller but if there's a ground loop issue there, strawberry float all I can do. It'll just happen again. Just have to slog a practice amp with me if I do another electric set and cut out anything software that won't respond well to power crap. It is a really old building. I've spent good money on noiseless power supplies... Except for that one box.

9 hours later my fingers are still bleeding, mummy strawberry floating steels. If the night runs again I'll probably play that or the next one. I'm glad that place is a music venue again. Open mic next door sounded a bit meh so it was nice to be selected for something, I haven't shopped for a gig in years and years but should do more open mics anyway.

They did have a house drum kit which is nice, I can bring a friend to do some jazz rock improv stuff without really giving any shite if it's open mic. But it's encouraged me to publish new songs and finish mixing various stuff. I've turned thirty but no reason why I can't be a late bloomer even if played most of my gigs 10 years ago.

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by Ad7 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:01 pm

strawberry floating hell, all that's missing from that is you realised you were naked half way through the set :lol:

And never mind that late bloomer nonsense, I'm nearly 40 and harbour fantasies of getting somewhere with my music. :capnscotty:

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by Green Gecko » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:26 pm

All in all it went pretty well and it felt good to do it again. Drank one too many Seasiders though.

I think I'll trade up some gear for an orange tiny terror or vox night train and use the speaker emulation out to go into DI or mixer. My pickups are very hot ceramic active EMGs so the signal is high, it responds 10x better to a valve pre and most transistor amps just clip which is mega annoying. So much less dynamic range. Ideally it needs a switchable lo/hi passive/active switch on the amp input.

It's nice having things like a simple tremolo on the amp modeller but I can always buy one. Probably an MXR. I had 4 patches set up with quite different sounds and was so ready to use them.

And should sort out effects board - I can build my own these days - so it's all ready to go and signal tested. I used to have one set up on a massive wooden breakfast in bed table with Velcro :lol:
And yes I will keep trying lol

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by Pedz » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:31 pm

Ad7 wrote:Bit early to be thinking about Christmas Pedz.


Oof.

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by Pedz » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:33 pm

Anyone wanna do an intro tune and outro tune for the GRcade Twitch streams?

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by Ad7 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 5:37 pm

It's The strawberry floating Podcast

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by Ad7 » Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:15 am

GG what killing do you use? I have a fender Princeton 112 plus amp, but I've not used it once in about 6 years now, I just stick to my pod X3.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:39 pm

Killing? Lol

It's an m-audio black box but virtual ampeg, BIAS Amp and the Amp device in ableton (which is made by ampeg anyway) are a bit better. I'd be better off with a pod also but there are a few useful and innovative features on the black box, including practice drumbeats, an xlr mic input and realtime effects synchronisation to midi clock. It's an audio device but I never use it as one as its USB 1.1. It does have a spdif out so I can use it if wanted through my focusrite saffire pro 40 FireWire interface (which is excellent despite being 8 years old).

Just nice to put your hands on some knobs while playing rather than vst etc modeller. It has some funny clicky rotary encodeds to adjust amp and effects parameters separately. It's still software technically but firmware, there's no lag at all but the digitisation does suck tone quiet a lot. It's ok and one of the earlier amp modellers. M audio did more to make it a recording interface than the others and it was my first interface. And it has some really weird arpeggiator effects and resonators etc which cane make some pretty unique sounds.

I don't have a cab, need to build one, my amp head is a 1971 sound city b120 120w all valve and I have an orange crush practice amp.

A few effects. Boss dd6, whammy iv, crybaby, big muff pi (Russian)

I also have a Roland GR-20 synth which is a lot of fun, you can use the midi out to control vst synths with guitar lol. But tbh I never use it because the pickup is on an old yahama Pacifica, a guitar I still like but don't really play because the Ibanez prestige is obviously better acoustically.

Ideally I'd have a small valve amp but I recently discovered if I plug the sound city into a dummy load (I have a 12 inch speaker I literally just soldered a jack socket directly to) I can use the effects loop to record, effectively making it a 120w valve pre which is ridiculous. It's an excellent clean amp however, it only dirties up with volume and harmonic valve distortion. But hardly practical dragging that around, and studios with cabs are going to have better amps anyway. Can't think of anything that will beat it for a clean sound however simply because the signal path is so simple. It actually dirties up by each eq knob being a subsequent gain stage, sometimes called an active ladder or something like that, which is very unusual. Most eqs are passive. This essentially gives you four gain stages, initial gain (pre) and then , bass, mid and treble (power amp).

There is no master volume :slol: so it has one setting which is LOUD

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by Pedz » Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:52 pm

Ad7 wrote:It's The strawberry floating Podcast


We need it by Sunday. Thanks sweetie.

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by Gemini73 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:17 pm

So I've been practising scales and while it has helped good grief it's boring!

Decided to also start going through some guitar tabs like I used to in my youth. AC/DC, Metallica, Slayer and the like. Got my fingers working around the fretboard and it's a lot more fun. 8-)

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by Squinty » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:23 pm

I prefer just learning songs than sitting doing scales all day. I love picking things up by ear and figuring out how things work.

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by Gemini73 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:26 pm

Squinty wrote:I prefer just learning songs than sitting doing scales all day. I love picking things up by ear and figuring out how things work.


Indeed. I've no aspirations of being in a band these days and am just jamming for fun, so why bog myself down in scales when I can teach myself Megadeth's "Holy Wars!" :nod:

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by Squinty » Mon Sep 30, 2019 7:48 pm

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Squinty wrote:I prefer just learning songs than sitting doing scales all day. I love picking things up by ear and figuring out how things work.


Indeed. I've no aspirations of being in a band these days and am just jamming for fun, so why bog myself down in scales when I can teach myself Megadeth's "Holy Wars!" :nod:


I used to be able to play the rhythm parts to that. I probably couldn't play it now if you put a gun to my head.

I have a playlist of all the songs I learned to play and I'm pretty sure I can't play 40% of those songs now :lol: :lol: :lol:

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by Green Gecko » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:25 pm

I was kind of shocked after years playing classical/spanish stuff that I could download pretty much any tab and play it. I mean, it would take me a day or two of solid practice to "shred", whatever the strawberry float that means, but more to the point I rarely found things challenging from a frets or fingerstyle standpoint. So I'd recommend rehearsing pieces rather than scales personally. It made me a bit confused why I didn't do it more often with popular music I liked. Maybe because of playing "requests" like a jukebox strawberry floating pisses me off.

So basically go and play some Bach and then tell me you're bored of that.

I can't really pay with a pick, but I developed this technique doing almost the same thing with my thumb which is over 9000. It hurts though and can't sustain for long. I fake a lot of fast technique with slurs (which, tbh, 90% of super fast metal style stuff isn't picked anyway so that's, er, valid).

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by Gemini73 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:29 pm

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Squinty wrote:I prefer just learning songs than sitting doing scales all day. I love picking things up by ear and figuring out how things work.


Indeed. I've no aspirations of being in a band these days and am just jamming for fun, so why bog myself down in scales when I can teach myself Megadeth's "Holy Wars!" :nod:


I used to be able to play the rhythm parts to that. I probably couldn't play it now if you put a gun to my head.

I have a playlist of all the songs I learned to play and I'm pretty sure I can't play 40% of those songs now :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah it's a tricky one. I've nailed the intro so far. Megadeth are excellent for working ones fingers around the board. Just about the right complexity.

I'm only learning bits and pieces from different songs from different bands rather than whole tracks then applying learnt techniques to my own jams.

Still waiting on my pedal though. :x

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by Lime » Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:52 pm

I posted a similar post in the Apple thread but it's possibly more relevant to this one.

I've been looking at using my Ipad Pro 3rd Gen as a sound module for my excellent (but ageing soundwise) Fantom X8 - it has a fantastic fully weighted keyboard so wanted to stick with it.

The Ipad pro has a USB C port and no headphone socket, so it's been a journey to find a suitable way to hook it all up.

Bluetooth Audio lags too much to be useful in the context of music making, and I was also concerned about lag if using Bluetooth via midi, so a cabled solution was the way to go.

I went with a Satechi Hub: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07 ... UTF8&psc=1

Headphones sound great through this and I can run it through an amp.

I then went to hook up my Keyboard to use some synth modules on the iPad - disaster! Note on/off data being dropped all over the place, so played notes were being missed, and some notes were 'sticking'.

A quick google later and it turned out that the weak link was my unbranded, poor quality midi to USB cable that I bought for £3 odd years ago from ebay. It's one of those situations where 'just any old cable' won't do as there is some data processing going on, and I'm suspecting that there were some data buffer overflow issues that caused my issues.
Bought a 'proper' one for about £30 - now all is perfect.

Set up the free 'iGrand' app, and it's incredible. So inspiring that I'm composing again, I could play it all day. I will drop some cash on the paid version but this project got over £80 more expensive than I planned already!

Hope this info is useful for anyone that attempts to do something similar!

Any other recommendations for iOS synths?

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by Ad7 » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:01 pm

Welcome Lime, I saw your post and was going to suggest you post in here.

GG - I will reply to you properly, but had sent do so yet as your posts have so much detail I feel they warrant more than my usual LOL LANDLORD M8 shite

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by Lime » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:27 pm

Ad7 wrote:Welcome Lime, I saw your post and was going to suggest you post in here.



Thanks Ad! I'm a bit of a mixed bag musically - in my 20's I was in a Funk/Rock band, and currently I'm writing a set of preludes for piano- i.e. classical music, with some more modern harmony ideas to keep it from sounding too much of a pastiche. I'm currently listening mainly to prog-metal (Tesseract is a current favourite).

I'm trying to modernise my approach to music making, hence the ipad piano app etc. I think I'll have a look a sample/loop based music making too.

So yes, all in all I'm a bit of a musical tart really, I'll go with anyone if I like it.

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PostRe: GRcade Musician's Club - Do You "Do" Music?
by Gemini73 » Mon Oct 07, 2019 5:33 pm

My pedal arrived today. It's really good. Gives a clear, crunchy sound with a great bass behind it. Perfect for my metal needs. De-tuned to D. Lets strawberry floating 'av it! :nod:

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