Do you think you'll spend the rest of your life living in the UK?

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Do you think you'll spend the rest of your life living in the UK?

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by Naomi Marazzamataz » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:45 pm

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Naomi Marazzamataz wrote:Really though, Colombia is a country where rules are bent, stretched or full on broken. There's always a way to fix any problem and there's always a way to stay if you want to. That's why it's so stress free.


This sounds like the opposite of stress free



The cheap, premium grade cocaine gives you the confidence to navigate those stressful situations though


The easiest way to get cocaine in Colombia? Go to the airport. Fly to London. Go into a bar.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:48 pm

From my experience of living in Japan. Moving country is a really hard adjustment learning another language is difficult and adjusting to the culture. Even if I moved somewhere nearer like Spain or France it would still be a difficult adjustment period also I would be making the process of finding a job much more difficult for myself especially as I'm nearly 40. Also while the UK is a bit of a gooseberry fool show at the moment I think most other countries have issues. Finally I have a good job and a life here so if would be difficult to leave although if everything fell apart I might try and go to Japan again.

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Also I owe Nationwide 4 grand and can't leave until I pay it off.

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by Tomous » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:54 pm

I would definitely need to move to a country where English is widely spoken. I'm hopeless at languages. My B at GCSE French was a miracle.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:56 pm

Tomous wrote:I would definitely need to move to a country where English is widely spoken. I'm hopeless at languages. My B at GCSE French was a miracle.


I got a G in German but managed to pass two Japanese language tests.

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The English speaking countries seem the worst choices:

US gooseberry fool health care unless you spend a bucket load and no holidays.
Canada basically no holiday time.
Australia from what I've seen it's incredible racist and I just don't want to move there.

New Zealand and Ireland actually seem like decent places.

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by DarkRula » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:12 pm

Yes, I can see myself always being in the UK. The only thing I need is a place that's a bit more open than where I am now with access to some more greenspace. Preferably with some rivers and lakes nearby.

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by SEP » Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:29 pm

Lex-Man wrote:New Zealand and Ireland actually seem like decent places.


But then you'd have to share a country with either cmanny or jiggles.

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by RichardUK » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:42 am

I would love to live in Florida but I don’t think I would be able to do so unless I purchased or started a business that employs enough people ( I think that’s the only possible way I would be allowed to move over there) Bavaria is an option because I love it but as I have got older I crave the warmer weather more, I am just really bored of my current life and moving abroad on my own would certainly shake it up a little

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by Vermilion » Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:48 am

Naomi Marazzamataz wrote:Weed however, legal to grow for personal use, legal to smoke and legal to grow for export with a license. A friend of mine owns a marijuana company and he's loaded from exporting to the states, legally.


Tegridy Farms?

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by Rocsteady » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:16 am

Naomi Marazzamataz wrote:
Tomous wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:
Naomi Marazzamataz wrote:Really though, Colombia is a country where rules are bent, stretched or full on broken. There's always a way to fix any problem and there's always a way to stay if you want to. That's why it's so stress free.


This sounds like the opposite of stress free



The cheap, premium grade cocaine gives you the confidence to navigate those stressful situations though


No one takes cocaine here. The only places you find it are in tourist hotspots because of all the brits/americans/australians/dutch and it's only because they come here and demand it. It's a plant. You can come across it randomly on a hike, as it grows naturally here. It's a natural remedy for altitude sickness and is part of indigenous culture in its plant form.

It's deliberately grown out in the jungle and exported to feed the addicts abroad though and is the reason the war is kicking off again. It's the reason for over 50 years of war in this beautiful country. The UK is obsessed with it and they just don't know the consequences.

Weed however, legal to grow for personal use, legal to smoke and legal to grow for export with a license. A friend of mine owns a marijuana company and he's loaded from exporting to the states, legally.

This isn't what I've heard, and doesn't seem to be the case: https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief ... al-market/

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by Tomous » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:36 am

Lex-Man wrote:
Tomous wrote:I would definitely need to move to a country where English is widely spoken. I'm hopeless at languages. My B at GCSE French was a miracle.


I got a G in German but managed to pass two Japanese language tests.

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The English speaking countries seem the worst choices:

US gooseberry fool health care unless you spend a bucket load and no holidays.
Canada basically no holiday time.
Australia from what I've seen it's incredible racist and I just don't want to move there.

New Zealand and Ireland actually seem like decent places.


There are also countries where English isn't the first language but widely spoken-for example Malaysia. My wife has family in Penang and we are seriously considering it for the future

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:23 am

Lex-Man wrote:The English speaking countries seem the worst choices:

US gooseberry fool health care unless you spend a bucket load and no holidays.
Canada basically no holiday time.
Australia from what I've seen it's incredible racist and I just don't want to move there.

New Zealand and Ireland actually seem like decent places.


I mean come on, they all have problems but they are hardly the worst choices by most measures. The UK too - obviously these things are in many respects subjective but it most often ranks relatively highly on things like quality of life indexes.

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by Tomous » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:27 am

OrangeRKN wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:The English speaking countries seem the worst choices:

US gooseberry fool health care unless you spend a bucket load and no holidays.
Canada basically no holiday time.
Australia from what I've seen it's incredible racist and I just don't want to move there.

New Zealand and Ireland actually seem like decent places.


I mean come on, they all have problems but they are hardly the worst choices by most measures. The UK too - obviously these things are in many respects subjective but it most often ranks relatively highly on things like quality of life indexes.



Holiday time would remove US and Canada for me instantly though. Canada would be good when retired though.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:33 am

Sure it would for me too, but forced into the choice I'd still move to the US over a lot of other countries.

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by Rocsteady » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:34 am

The US is very low down my list. Terrible work/life balance, impoverished citizens everywhere you look and an ethos I just generally strongly disagree with.

Realistically though, the English speaking nations in general have a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else on the planet.

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by Tomous » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:38 am

In terms of quality of life and looking at the most commonly used metrics I think you're looking at Scandanavia, Switzerland, Netherlands and Aus/NZ as the best.

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by 7256930752 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:50 am

The reason I did my degree was because I always viewed it as my passport to getting a job in a different country. While it's definitely still an ambition with California being a favourite of my wife and I, we're in a situation where we both have good jobs (although the missus HATES hers) that are relatively secure and generally have a good life so have a lot to lose. The other major factor is that we're close with our families so moving away would mean most holiday's would just be coming back here.

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:55 am

Rocsteady wrote:The US is very low down my list. Terrible work/life balance, impoverished citizens everywhere you look and an ethos I just generally strongly disagree with.

Realistically though, the English speaking nations in general have a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else on the planet.


Depends where you are for some of that and also what industry you’re working in - some states have better working time directives than others.

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by Rocsteady » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:01 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:The US is very low down my list. Terrible work/life balance, impoverished citizens everywhere you look and an ethos I just generally strongly disagree with.

Realistically though, the English speaking nations in general have a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else on the planet.


Depends where you are for some of that and also what industry you’re working in - some states have better working time directives than others.

In my experience (of working in and with people from 5 or 6 states), it's part of the culture even when not mandated though.

As for the poverty, every city I've been in over there is worse than any European location I've seen for overtly abject impoverishment. Maybe Minneapolis as an exception although I wasn't there for long so didn't see much.

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by Lex-Man » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:31 am

Rocsteady wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:The US is very low down my list. Terrible work/life balance, impoverished citizens everywhere you look and an ethos I just generally strongly disagree with.

Realistically though, the English speaking nations in general have a higher standard of living than almost anywhere else on the planet.


Depends where you are for some of that and also what industry you’re working in - some states have better working time directives than others.

In my experience (of working in and with people from 5 or 6 states), it's part of the culture even when not mandated though.

As for the poverty, every city I've been in over there is worse than any European location I've seen for overtly abject impoverishment. Maybe Minneapolis as an exception although I wasn't there for long so didn't see much.


In the US the government doesn't mandate any days off for citizens. No other comparable country does this, I think the average number of vacation days in about two weeks but I've heard from American friends that you're looked down on if you take more than a week off a year and loads of poorer workers don't get any holiday entitlement at all.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2 ... -vacation/

In fact, one report goes so far as to call the United States a “no-vacation nation,” thanks to the paltry (well, nonexistent) amount of paid vacation time mandated by federal law compared with that of other well-off countries.

According to the study from Center for Economic and Policy Research, the European Union requires member countries to grant workers at least 20 working days of paid vacation. But many nations go well above that number, and some offer a heap of paid holidays, to boot. France, for example, requires at least 30 paid workdays off, not including paid holidays, while the U.K. mandates 28, followed by Austria, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Spain and Sweden at 25.


You can look at the article but it says that 22% of US employees get no vacation. That's nearly a quarter of the US work force.

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by aayl1 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:49 am

Partner is from Chicago and wants to move back there until her parents die, essentially. Fact of the matter is, for our socio-demographic standings our quality of life would go up a lot. Her folks aren't loaded but have enough to be very comfortable with decent health insurance.

I'd probably want to retire back here (or somewhere a bit chiller in the US - Colorado maybe) but I'm glad I have Chicago in my future - it's a pretty cool city. There's also a potential scenario where I take over her father's business/operation which would then mean a very nice work life balance.

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