GRcade

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:44 am**

Who actually organises and runs the national remembrance service? Is it controlled by any one entity?

I know a lot of local events are actually organised and run or supported by the church and therefore having some Christian element to them doesn't seem unreasonable, but I don't know what the situation is with the service at the Cenotaph in Whitehall.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:47 am**

Blue Eyes wrote:I saw a bloke walking his dogs and they were wearing poppies. Are we expected to think strawberry floating dogs are sad about WWI now??

I saw a bloke walking his dogs and they weren't wearing poppies. It's a strawberry floating disgrace.

They were German Shepherds though, so maybe that's why.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:48 am**

I want to get a German Shepherd and call it Gobbles. Because dogs eat a lot

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:53 am**

Preezy wrote:I saw a bloke walking his dogs and they weren't wearing poppies. It's a strawberry floating disgrace.

They were German Shepherds though, so maybe that's why.

I hope they at least looked apologetic.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:53 am**

Garth wrote:
Preezy wrote:I saw a bloke walking his dogs and they weren't wearing poppies. It's a strawberry floating disgrace.

They were German Shepherds though, so maybe that's why.

I hope they at least looked apologetic.

They had long faces, put it that way.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:55 am**

Jenuall wrote:Who actually organises and runs the national remembrance service? Is it controlled by any one entity? ...

In the U.K., the poppy appeal event and the National Service of Remembrance, held at the Cenotaph, are organised by The British Legion.

The British Legion is a charity that "provides lifelong support for the Armed Forces community - serving men and women, veterans, and their families."

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:58 am**

jawafour wrote:
Moggy wrote:What does “representation” mean? They let a Rabbi sit in the back row while the Archbishop tells everyone about Christ? Or do they get the same amount of time and coverage as the Christian faiths?

"Representation" means that the twenty-two religious groups and one secular group were invited to attend and participate in the remembrance event.

I can't locate specific role details but I have traced an article by the representative for the Muslim faith at the 2016 remembrance service, Qari Muhammad Anim, who speaks of attending "along with other faith leaders to remember those who gave their lives for our country. As we are united in remembrance, they were united in their sacrifice – men and women of all faiths and of none." Personally, I have no strong opinion on whether religious representatives should have a "talking" role at remembrance events, although I do believe that representation has significantly expanded in recent years. In particular, secular groups have campaigned for some time to be represented at the service and, for the first time this year, they were.

So the bulk of it is CoE led.

That’s wrong.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:29 pm**

Moggy wrote:So the bulk of it is CoE led.

That’s wrong.

Possibly, Moggy. The majority religion in the U.K. is Christianity (just under 60%, according to Wikipedia), with the next most popular being Islam with just under 5%.

It seems that, rather than all faiths having a greater role at the event, the bigger movement is behind the idea that the event should not have religious aspects; indeed, the Cenotaph itself was apparently created as a secular monument. I'd imagine that this was a factor in inviting the Humanists organisation to be a part of the event this year.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:12 pm**

jawafour wrote:
Moggy wrote:So the bulk of it is CoE led.

That’s wrong.

Possibly, Moggy. The majority religion in the U.K. is Christianity (just under 60%, according to Wikipedia), with the next most popular being Islam with just under 5%.

It seems that, rather than all faiths having a greater role at the event, the bigger movement is behind the idea that the event should not have religious aspects; indeed, the Cenotaph itself was apparently created as a secular monument. I'd imagine that this was a factor in inviting the Humanists organisation to be a part of the event this year.

I doubt it’s as high as 60% (people just tend to tick that box) but I’m aware that Christianity is the biggest religion here.

The big remembrance ceremony at the cenotaph is for ALL soldiers, they should equally represent ALL the faiths of those that fought for Britain, or have no religion at all.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:26 pm**

Moggy wrote:...The big remembrance ceremony at the cenotaph is for ALL soldiers, they should equally represent ALL the faiths of those that fought for Britain, or have no religion at all.

Yeah, I think most folk who attend or view the event want to recognise and remember all people who have been impacted by war, regardless of their religious views.

I feel that, looking at the countries and faith communities represented at the event, the ceremony is a reasonable match of both those who have been impacted and of the country today but, yes, I can see why some folk aren't so happy with the "who talks and who doesn't" aspect. Offhand, I think my personal preference would be for a more secular service... but that is a difficult call as it appears that religious groups from a key part in leading the charity and organisation aspects of the event.

Posted: **Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:58 pm**

jawafour wrote:
Hyperion wrote:Did May not go to this remembrance thing in Paris with the other world leaders?

May attended a remembrance event in France on Friday alongside Macron. Whilst she attended the U.K. remembrance events yesterday, the U.K. was represented by the ambassador and senior minister to France at remembrance events in France on Saturday evening and yesterday.

Source: The Connexion

Cheers Jawa
That's very disappointing

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:44 am**

twitter.com/gazevans1970/status/1191251162563063809

Halloween is over and so Poppy OURAGE is back.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:48 am**

MY POPPY IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:20 am**

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:26 am**

Kezzer wrote:MY POPPY IS BIGGER THAN YOURS!

twitter.com/giantpoppywatch/status/1190950518794936320

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:27 am**

I love to commemorate the horrors of world war by driving around a lorry that has all military planes dropping paratroopers on it, who are all saluting and waving guns around, and a giant national flag. NEVER FORGET how cool and great the BRITISH (only the BRITISH) army are. Or you'll get shouted at in the street by a sweaty old guy and then quite possibly BOMBED BY OUR BOYS.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:27 am**

A HGV with terrible photoshop? What a brilliant way to support our troops.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:30 am**

the HGV isn't even British. DISRESPECT!

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:30 am**

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/gazevans1970/status/1191251162563063809

Halloween is over and so Poppy OURAGE is back.

Like Christmas, the date you HAVE to be wearing your poppy by seems to get earlier and earlier.

Posted: **Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:34 am**

I can't wait for the 2030s when English fascism really gets into full swing and by mandate of Prime Minister Tommy Robinson you have to wear a poppy every day all year round, or else be summarily executed in the street.

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