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by jawa4 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:46 pm

Just watched "Can You Hear Me?".

It went along just fine; kept me interested. The villains and fingers were pretty spooky. I can imagine that youngsters would have been bloomin' terrified.

Then the final ten-or-so minutes kicked in and and suddenly there were - for maybe the first time this series, in my opinion - some genuine conversations based upon real-life challenges... and it worked. It really worked! It didn't feel forced or trite; I believed their issues and I felt a bit emotional. I have griped about real-world issues being presented with all the subtlety of a hammer these past few episodes but I have to say this was decent.

For me, by far the best episode in this series so far.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- "Can You Hear Me?" imbusydoctorwho says "Wet Willie's"
by The Watching Artist » Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:19 pm

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Hexx wrote:Why was it called can you hear me?

Because it was about people needing to talk about their fears.


Bollocks. :lol:

No one in there was talking but going unheard. Then the title would make sense

It's not a great title but I don't think it is meant to be taken as the literal act of talking and hearing. :lol: I suspect "Can you find me a specialist support network?" might have been a little unwieldy even for this era.

It's clear that young Yaz isn't feeling listened to at home. Ryans friend hasn't had him about to turn to or found anyone else. The Syrian girl isn't being believed that the monsters are real. Graham bottles up his fear of his cancer returning, I thought it was quite notable that his visions start just after his friend asks him about this btw. He needs someone to share this with and would probably have been Grace.

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by shy guy 64 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:59 pm

theres a certain degree of irony of listen to an audio story called "the great white hurricane" while going home in a snow storm

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by Garth » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:15 pm

BBC responded to complaints regarding the scene between the Doctor and Graham about his cancer fears:
“Thank you for contacting us about Doctor Who: Can you Hear Me? with your feedback that it was insensitive for the Doctor to dismiss Graham’s cancer concerns,” the BBC Complaints response (which RadioTimes.com has independently verified) said.

“We never set out to upset our viewers with what we show and this episode tackled some sensitive themes. The episode used dreams and nightmares to explore the inner lives of the companions. Thanks to Zellin’s nightmare powers, Ryan, Yaz, and Graham were forced to confront their worst fears, many of which relate to the way traveling with the Doctor has changed their lives.

“When Graham opened up to the Doctor about his fear of his cancer returning her response was never meant to be dismissive. The Doctor’s friend was scared, and we see her struggling to deal with the severity of the situation.

“The intention of the scene was to acknowledge how hard it can be to deal with conversations on this subject matter. When faced with these situations, people don’t always have the right words to say at the right time, and this can often lead to feelings of guilt. By showing the Doctor struggling to find the right words, the intention was to sympathise with all those who may have found themselves in a similar position.”

The message concluded: “We hope this has helped to address your concerns, but please be assured your feedback has been raised with the programme’s Executive Producer.”

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2020 ... or-graham/

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by Pedz » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:05 pm

I liked it. Was a really good episode IMO.

thought I'd post a positive post before the pages of people saying it was gooseberry fool ;)

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by Garth » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:43 pm

Definitely one of the better episodes this series for me. I liked the perception filterish house idea and it was pretty creepy. Enjoyed seeing the Doctor getting frustrated and angry, shitting on the 'flat team structure', plus the bit about not wanting to lose anyone else to the Cybermen (poor Bill). The Cyberman itself was pretty gruesome too, when it snapped that woman's neck :dread:

Chibnall not given a writing credit on this one? :P

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by shy guy 64 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:52 pm

good episode i thought, liked the guest characters and thought the lone cyberman was a good villain

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by Moggy » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:14 pm

Great episode. Mrs Doctor should have shown Byron a good time though. ;)

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by imbusydoctorwho » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:17 pm

Easily the best episode of the Whittaker era for me, creepy, funny, edge of your seat stuff. The lone Cyberman was a rather terrifying sight and was quite brutal with his killings. Randy Byron and the Doctor had some great chemistry too.

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by The Watching Artist » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:38 pm

I honestly thought it was strawberry floating dreadful. Whats the bloody point of bringing back the Cybermen only to have it pushing stuff off tables. :lol: :fp: Apparently the CyberAquarium can make skeletons do things for no reason. Anyone vaguely interested in a Shelly/Cyberman story should give this listen.

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Gone from World Enough and Time to this :cry:

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by Jenuall » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:17 pm

Way behind on this now, I can't put my finger on any specific reason but this is the least engaged I've been with Who since it came back. I like Jodie's take on the character but she really hasn't been dealt a good hand with the stories so far.

Either way just finished the Tesla episode which was okay I guess and started the Judoon one - plus points for being set in Gloucester, always nice to see stuff from your hometown but bloody hell some of these accents! :lol:

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by shy guy 64 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:17 pm

so come across a couple rumours for the next series, bradley walsh is supposedly returning, the writer of today's episode will be a "core" writer, the timeless child story arch will continue and chibnall apparently has a five year plan

no idea of any of that is true

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by imbusydoctorwho » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:22 pm

Don't think I could put with Chibnall's writing for another five years.

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by Jenuall » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:32 pm

I know I'm way behind but one thing I do quite like is the obvious "strawberry float you" that this series seems to have been to a lot of the idiot haters out there.

"What's that? You can't handle the Doctor being a woman? Well guess what now there are two of them - they're both women and one of them is black as well! Didn't like the episode about Rosa Parks because it featured a prominent female historical character woven into the narrative? strawberry float you have an Ada Lovelace and Noor Inayat Khan double-whammy!"


Whilst it was brief I also liked the return of Captain Jack in the last episode. Although it did kind of throw a light on just how strawberry floating gooseberry fool the current companions are.

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PostRe: Doctor Who- "The Haunting of Villa Diodati" Tonight BBC1 @ 7.10pm
by Dual » Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:34 pm

Love the idea Mary Shelley got inspiration for Frankenstines monster from a half built Cyberman

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by The Watching Artist » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:48 pm

Jenuall wrote:I know I'm way behind but one thing I do quite like is the obvious "strawberry float you" that this series seems to have been to a lot of the idiot haters out there.

"What's that? You can't handle the Doctor being a woman? Well guess what now there are two of them - they're both women and one of them is black as well! Didn't like the episode about Rosa Parks because it featured a prominent female historical character woven into the narrative? strawberry float you have an Ada Lovelace and Noor Inayat Khan double-whammy!"


Whilst it was brief I also liked the return of Captain Jack in the last episode. Although it did kind of throw a light on just how strawberry floating gooseberry fool the current companions are.

Ruth Doctor kind of did the same tbh :shifty:

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PostRe: Doctor Who- "The Haunting of Villa Diodati" Tonight BBC1 @ 7.10pm
by shy guy 64 » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:59 pm

imbusydoctorwho wrote:Don't think I could put with Chibnall's writing for another five years.


well i think it was including the years weve had so itd only be three more

unless he counted the gap year for some reason

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by The Watching Artist » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:07 pm

shy guy 64 wrote:
imbusydoctorwho wrote:Don't think I could put with Chibnall's writing for another five years.


well i think it was including the years weve had so itd only be three more

unless he counted the gap year for some reason

The five year plan has been kicking around since before his run was broadcast. It's never really been clear if its actually 5 years or 5 series as I don't think anyone really expected the gaps in between to be as long as they have. He might well have a 5 year plan and then decides he has another too. ;)

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PostRe: Doctor Who- "The Haunting of Villa Diodati" Pedz says "good episode"
by Pedz » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:27 pm

I made the title :D

*Awaits Garth posting the Graham Gif*

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PostRe: Doctor Who- "The Haunting of Villa Diodati" Pedz says "good episode"
by Garth » Mon Feb 17, 2020 5:19 pm

Pedz wrote:I made the title :D

*Awaits Garth posting the Graham Gif*

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