Doctor Who- Moggy says Rogue was "decent"

Hexx wrote:
shy guy 64 wrote:didn't think the call back to fish custard would please me so much

See oddly enough I hated that. That was 11's thing. 12/13/14 didn't call back to it. It just felt like a memberberry

Well David already nicked his theme tune so I guess it’s open season

Memento Mori wrote:
Cheeky Devlin wrote:It's a minefield trying to keep up with my rewatch and avoiding spoilers for the new stuff.

Ironic.

Genuine lol

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Smith was excellent. Really loved him by the end. He had a really fantastic way of going from his slightly wacky persona to his more serious moments where he genuinely feels like an ancient being. He really manages to capture that world weary oldness at time. Like he looks young, but you can tell he's been around for a very long time. Wonderful actor.

Think you're gonna enjoy getting to see Troughton.... one day. Smith at points (like when his time line is unravelling in the Pandorica) is the most Doctor that the Doctor has ever been.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Still think Season 7 would have been better with Amy and Rory all the way through but Clara has grown on me a bit more this time around.

I was pretty gutted when the Ponds left but I think they had basically ran their course by that point. I'm not really sure what else you could do with them and having them leave at the end of 7 would mean a lot of change around the 50th. Did you know at one point only JLC was actually under contract for the special?

Cheeky Devlin wrote:Thought it was one of the most bullshit, pulled out of nowhere dumb solutions I've ever seen.

Yeah the end really sucks. When I did my scores recently it made sure I knocked it down a point. Sherwood got a bad rap originally (I think Into the Dalek did too) some of which was to do with people thinking Capaldi couldnt do comedy, which is absolute bollocks. Its a nice light hearted story and I quite like the Doctor finding out a fictional character was actually real. :lol:

Plus

You have a proper belter up next. :datass:

The Watching Artist wrote:Plus

It's such a shame we didn't get a special Torchwood episode where Capaldi's Doctor could turn up and let rip like Malcolm Tucker.

they are hyping up the next episode quite a bit

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Lovely atomosphere, creepy and well acted.

Then it falls apart in a nonsense, none explained ending that. RTDs inability to do endings rears it's head again in the worst way and undermines a brilliant episode. Ruby's realisations come out of no where too. Unresolved endings can be fine, but not like that. Going more Paranormal (which they hang a lantern on this episode) just appears to be "stuff happens and we don't have to explain"

Plus there's only episodes did we really need a

YouTube

Yeah! I didn't really like that. Spooky atmosphere but there is actually no real sense in the story and it leaves so much things unanswered. It's nonsense really.

Not sure I like the direction Doctor Who is going in with the magical/supernatural aspect. I mean the science behind Doctor Who has always been spotty at best, but now it's like - …."weird space God/wizard did it...…something....something....salt at the end of the universe.."
"Don't think about it...."
:fp:

Yeah I’m getting tired of RTD’s non explanations as well

really spooky at the start. Looses it when it gears up for the alternate timeline and becomes about some prat who we largely have to take the episodes word for that he’s a prat. Have it clear that he’s done something evil not just he’s going to. And don’t resolve the alternate timeline without explaining everything

Bit of a waste of time really

i'm actually kinda of mad about it now

I thought that was absolutely brilliant until the last 5 minutes or so.

At the finally got an acknowledgment of susan twist

another great episode, been a very fun series so far

shy guy 64 wrote:Yeah I’m getting tired of RTD’s non explanations as well

really spooky at the start. Looses it when it gears up for the alternate timeline and becomes about some prat who we largely have to take the episodes word for that he’s a prat. Have it clear that he’s done something evil not just he’s going to. And don’t resolve the alternate timeline without explaining everything

Bit of a waste of time really

I mean it's pretty heavily implied he raped the campaign worker.

Memento Mori wrote:
shy guy 64 wrote:Yeah I’m getting tired of RTD’s non explanations as well

really spooky at the start. Looses it when it gears up for the alternate timeline and becomes about some prat who we largely have to take the episodes word for that he’s a prat. Have it clear that he’s done something evil not just he’s going to. And don’t resolve the alternate timeline without explaining everything

Bit of a waste of time really

I mean it's pretty heavily implied he raped the campaign worker.

Other than the ending, that was the biggest misstep in the episode. I completely understand why they couldn't go into detail in an episode of Dr Who.

So why imply it at all? Especially as Ruby did strawberry float all about it and there appeared to be no comeuppance for the PM, other than resigning, but that was far more about averting a nuclear strike than the evil banana split being brought to justice.

I agree. I think the rape subplot was to make it more obvious Roger was a Trump analogue but it was misjudged.

Until the (lack of an) ending, I did really like the episode though. In the end, it's kind of a mess but it's an interesting mess.

Memento Mori wrote:I agree. I think the rape subplot was to make it more obvious Roger was a Trump analogue but it was misjudged.

Until the (lack of an) ending, I did really like the episode though. In the end, it's kind of a mess but it's an interesting mess.

Yeah I agree with all of that.

The Roger subplot would also have been better if all of the campaign staff were white. While people like Trump or parties like Reform ensure they have black/Asian people around them, it would have made the Albion Party look much more menacing if everyone around him was white, blonde, blue eyed people like Ruby.

Moggy wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
shy guy 64 wrote:Yeah I’m getting tired of RTD’s non explanations as well

really spooky at the start. Looses it when it gears up for the alternate timeline and becomes about some prat who we largely have to take the episodes word for that he’s a prat. Have it clear that he’s done something evil not just he’s going to. And don’t resolve the alternate timeline without explaining everything

Bit of a waste of time really

I mean it's pretty heavily implied he raped the campaign worker.

Other than the ending, that was the biggest misstep in the episode. I completely understand why they couldn't go into detail in an episode of Dr Who.

So why imply it at all? Especially as Ruby did strawberry float all about it and there appeared to be no comeuppance for the PM, other than resigning, but that was far more about averting a nuclear strike than the evil banana split being brought to justice.

i thought the implication was abuse something they were a bit clearer with in series 3

Think that might be the best RTD story since Midnight/Turn Left. That is until you get to the end and the whole thing feels like it was a waste of time. Just not really sure what the point of it was other then something stalking you is creepy.

I'm playing catch up on this.

Thought Devils Chord was good - for the most part this was the right kind of RTD excess, although like many recent stories it got less interesting as it went on. The opening with the "WTF, why are The Beatles gooseberry fool?" moment and seeing The Doctor and Ruby trying to work out what had gone wrong was a lot better than the eventual hokey "music battle" sequence. I did quite enjoy the musical number at the end though!

Boom was very good for the most part, nowhere near peak Moffat but still a nice return for him. A good central premise and the balls to write an episode where your lead spends 90% of it stood still is to be commended! It was kind of like a grab bag of already used Moffat themes and ideas though, still satisfying but lacking the punch of originality

so that's two episodes in a row where the problem has been cause by the doctor not watching where he steps

I enjoyed it until the end which then spoiled it for me. I don't mind unexplained mystery endings when handled well but this just didn't make sense. I didn't see last weeks episode but between this one and the first two my enthusiasm is starting to drop off a bit.

Doctor Who- Moggy says Rogue was "decent"

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