●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Pre-orders: Limited stock may become available at Currys very soon

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Which confirmed feature interests you the most?

8K graphics
8
6%
Virtual Reality (PSVR 2)
40
29%
Backwards Compatibility
56
41%
Ray Tracing
10
7%
3D Audio
4
3%
SSD (solid state drive)
19
14%
 
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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Damian » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:19 pm

$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Damian » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:19 pm

$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Rex Kramer » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:22 pm

Jenuall wrote:I think it's more likely issues to do with production which are pretty common - failure rates in chip production, particular anything using a new process or unique design, are relatively high. Combine that with the fact that manufacturing in general is down at the moment you are going to end up with a situation where they are just able to produce far fewer chips than expected.

Or could it be a ploy to reduce availability and therefore increase demand? Having that hard to get item for Christmas always generates a few extra sales when stock mysteriously becomes available 2 weeks before.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by OrangeRKN » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:31 pm

You can guarantee every new console launch will "sell out", that's for sure

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by BID0 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:48 pm

Damian wrote:$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

I can't see how this is going to be so cheap if they are having to throw away around 50% of the SOC's that they are manufacturing, that's a lot of wasted money. I guess we will find out tomorrow!!

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by imbusydoctorwho » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:20 pm

Still say it's going to match the Xbox Series X pricing of £450 or probably knock £20 by charging £430

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Robbo-92 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:28 pm

Isn’t the ultra fast SSD setup they have really expensive too?

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Damian » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:37 pm

imbusydoctorwho wrote:Still say it's going to match the Xbox Series X pricing of £450 or probably knock £20 by charging £430

Despite what I wrote above, that would be my best guess too.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by Victor Mildew » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:39 pm

This is all part of Sony's strategy to outsell Xbox one x by 5 to 1

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by BID0 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:06 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:Isn’t the ultra fast SSD setup they have really expensive too?

Yeh and the controller is quite costly too. If they've cut the number of units being made they also don't get the discount for the numbers they originally increased the manufacturing run by (which was one of the reasons people had thought the increased production run was for when it was announced)

If they're manufacturing less units now over the period to get the yield numbers in a better place, they probably don't need to match the Xbox price, they can sell it for whatever, get the fans to buy at the launch price and then match the Xbox price when they have bigger quantities being made. There's not much business sense sell a product at a loss when you can't fill customer demand.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by The Alchemist Penguin » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:31 pm

BID0 wrote:
Damian wrote:$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

I can't see how this is going to be so cheap if they are having to throw away around 50% of the SOC's that they are manufacturing, that's a lot of wasted money. I guess we will find out tomorrow!!


I'll be the first to admit I know very little about hardware manufacturing but, naively, I would have thought that Sony would only really care about "delivered SOCs" and any that had to be thrown away would be written off by the manufacturer. If I ordered a cake, then I wouldn't expect to pay for any failed attempts the bakery had along the way. :slol:

So hopefully it doesn't impact the price, but will likely impact the availability.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by BID0 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:42 pm

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Damian wrote:$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

I can't see how this is going to be so cheap if they are having to throw away around 50% of the SOC's that they are manufacturing, that's a lot of wasted money. I guess we will find out tomorrow!!


I'll be the first to admit I know very little about hardware manufacturing but, naively, I would have thought that Sony would only really care about "delivered SOCs" and any that had to be thrown away would be written off by the manufacturer. If I ordered a cake, then I wouldn't expect to pay for any failed attempts the bakery had along the way. :slol:

So hopefully it doesn't impact the price, but will likely impact the availability.

If you're ordering something off the shelf that's the case, when you are manufacturing custom orders to your customers specification then it's the customer paying.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by The Alchemist Penguin » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:01 pm

BID0 wrote:
The Alchemist Penguin wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Damian wrote:$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

I can't see how this is going to be so cheap if they are having to throw away around 50% of the SOC's that they are manufacturing, that's a lot of wasted money. I guess we will find out tomorrow!!


I'll be the first to admit I know very little about hardware manufacturing but, naively, I would have thought that Sony would only really care about "delivered SOCs" and any that had to be thrown away would be written off by the manufacturer. If I ordered a cake, then I wouldn't expect to pay for any failed attempts the bakery had along the way. :slol:

So hopefully it doesn't impact the price, but will likely impact the availability.

If you're ordering something off the shelf that's the case, when you are manufacturing custom orders to your customers specification then it's the customer paying.


Oh no. I'm more worried about the price now. :dread:

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by Yubel » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Almost want Sony to kick us in the balls with a whopping £899. :datass: That's a good price to play without limits, without limits.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by BID0 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:40 pm

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:
BID0 wrote:
The Alchemist Penguin wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Damian wrote:$449, says one analyst. That'd probably be £399. I think this to be optimistic.

I can't see how this is going to be so cheap if they are having to throw away around 50% of the SOC's that they are manufacturing, that's a lot of wasted money. I guess we will find out tomorrow!!


I'll be the first to admit I know very little about hardware manufacturing but, naively, I would have thought that Sony would only really care about "delivered SOCs" and any that had to be thrown away would be written off by the manufacturer. If I ordered a cake, then I wouldn't expect to pay for any failed attempts the bakery had along the way. :slol:

So hopefully it doesn't impact the price, but will likely impact the availability.

If you're ordering something off the shelf that's the case, when you are manufacturing custom orders to your customers specification then it's the customer paying.


Oh no. I'm more worried about the price now. :dread:

Well it's all rumour right now. 50% does sound excessively high especially as they increased volume of the first run only a few months ago, so I can't believe they would have done that without being confident of the initial prototypes coming through. It's probably BS to generate headline clicks/Sony putting out false info to surprise with a price.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by Saint of Killers » Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:51 pm

Update 09/15/20 at 2:45 p.m.: Sony Interactive Entertainment has denied reports that it has cut Playstation 5 production by four million units.

“While we do not release details related to manufacturing, the information provided by Bloomberg is false,” a statement to GamesIndustry.biz reads. “We have not changed the production number for PlayStation 5 since the start of mass production.”

https://www.gematsu.com/2020/09/bloombe ... lion-units

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/ ... y-4m-units

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5
by Robbo-92 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:15 pm

BID0 wrote:
Robbo-92 wrote:Isn’t the ultra fast SSD setup they have really expensive too?

Yeh and the controller is quite costly too. If they've cut the number of units being made they also don't get the discount for the numbers they originally increased the manufacturing run by (which was one of the reasons people had thought the increased production run was for when it was announced)

If they're manufacturing less units now over the period to get the yield numbers in a better place, they probably don't need to match the Xbox price, they can sell it for whatever, get the fans to buy at the launch price and then match the Xbox price when they have bigger quantities being made. There's not much business sense sell a product at a loss when you can't fill customer demand.


Didn’t know the controller was proving costly as well, I’m thinking £450 is the absolute minimum they’ll be selling the disc version for then, sounds more like a £400/£500 split to me.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by Songwriter » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:24 pm

This time tomorrow we’re most likely going to know everything....Which brings another generation post release guessing games to a close.

It’s been fun.

£399
£449

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by Peter Crisp » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:40 pm

Songwriter wrote:This time tomorrow we’re most likely going to know everything....Which brings another generation post release guessing games to a close.

It’s been fun.

£399
£449

Btw.


It's also almost time for a new Next Gen when? topic :toot: .

PS5 is yesterdays news :shifty: .

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - Live PS5 event, 16/9 @ 9PM
by KK » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:56 am

The PS5 console and accessories pages have been removed from Amazon UK when you search for them. The game is afoot.

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