● The PlayStation 5 Thread - Astro's Playroom sells 10m copies

When games are added to PS+, you keep them for as long as you are subbed, but you only get games as added from when you subbed onwards (and providing you remember to redeem them). GP is different in that games are removed from it, but you get the entire available catalogue as soon as you so subscribe. It's hard to compare the libraries when PS+ so heavily depends on when you have been subscribing and redeeming games.

GP looks really attractive for being able to subscribe for only a short period, play everything that interests you, then drop the subscription. That's just not viable on PS+ in comparison.

OrangeRKN wrote:When games are added to PS+, you keep them for as long as you are subbed, but you only get games as added from when you subbed onwards (and providing you remember to redeem them). GP is different in that games are removed from it, but you get the entire available catalogue as soon as you so subscribe. It's hard to compare the libraries when PS+ so heavily depends on when you have been subscribing and redeeming games.

GP looks really attractive for being able to subscribe for only a short period, play everything that interests you, then drop the subscription. That's just not viable on PS+ in comparison.

I think we all meant Now not +.

FFS

(it's still better than PS Now as some games join day 1 and all games stay longer and first party all join day 1 and stay forever and it has games from last gen that don't have to be streamed. There's a reason it has 4 x PSNow subscribers despite having half the install base but I digress).

Yeah there’s no arguing that Gamespass trounces PSNow

Photek wrote:FFS

(it's still better than PS Now as some games join day 1 and all games stay longer and first party all join day 1 and stay forever and it has games from last gen that don't have to be streamed. There's a reason it has 4 x PSNow subscribers despite having half the install base but I digress).

Well I made my argument against the games that have been added to Now Vs GP. The MS exclusives might arrive day one but that's no good if they're middling to poor.

There are 4x the subscribers because MS have been giving it away for free, if it ever gets to the point that people have to £8-£12 a month you can expect that number to drop considerably.

Captain Kinopio wrote:Yeah there’s no arguing that Gamespass trounces PSNow

Well there is, you just compare the games and I don't see loads more good or big games on Game Pass.

*Edit* also the ability to stream games to try them first is a huge bonus imo.

You're un-ironically arguing that PSnow is better than Gamepass, I'm out.

Let's do a quick list:

Now
Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4


GP
RDR 2
No Man's Sky
Gears 5
Horizon 4
Halo 5
Halo MCC
Sea of Thieves
State of Decay 2
The Witcher 3
Ace Combat 7
Monster Hunter World
The Outer World's
Tekken 7
PES 2020
Devil May Cry 5
Sunset Overdrive
Hellblade
Yakuza 0 and Kiwami

That's not including the massive PS3 library. I'm not seeing a huge jump in quality between the two services there, please prove me wrong.

Photek wrote:You're un-ironically arguing that PSnow is better than Gamepass, I'm out.

Not at all, I've argued that the isn't a huge jump in quality between the two. See above.

My chosen plastic box is better than your chosen plastic box!

Victor Mildew wrote:My chosen plastic box is better than your chosen plastic box!

I've tried to avoid that by repeating that they are both very good, I just want to understand why people think Game Pass is lightyears ahead of PSNow when in my eyes they are both very good services and excellent value for money.

Victor Mildew wrote:My chosen plastic box is better than your chosen plastic box!

Yeah well my cock is 4x as big as yours! What have you got to say about that, then.

Hime wrote:Let's do a quick list:

Now
Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4


GP
RDR 2
No Man's Sky
Gears 5
Horizon 4
Halo 5
Halo MCC
Sea of Thieves
State of Decay 2
The Witcher 3
Ace Combat 7
Monster Hunter World
The Outer World's
Tekken 7
PES 2020
Devil May Cry 5
Sunset Overdrive
Hellblade
Yakuza 0 and Kiwami

That's not including the massive PS3 library. I'm not seeing a huge jump in quality between the two services there, please prove me wrong.

Seeing this list I guess they're closer than I thought. I think I was just ignoring a lot because I've owned 8 of those PS Now games, compared to 4 of the Gamespass ones. There's no denying the bump you have to give GP for getting exclusives on release though. Also it seems like some others Photek mentioned should be on the GP list if they're on there, Ori and Kingdom Hearts 3 at least.

I don't know why Ad is trying to shut down this conversation as fanboyism. It's interesting comparing the services.

Hime wrote:

Victor Mildew wrote:My chosen plastic box is better than your chosen plastic box!

I've tried to avoid that by repeating that they are both very good, I just want to understand why people think Game Pass is lightyears ahead of PSNow when in my eyes they are both very good services and excellent value for money.

Can't say I've tried PS Now ever and that's likely down to buying all PS exclusives anyway, but with Gamepass I've had it since around the start of the service then switched over to Ultimate for PC (Runs out December I think) and I've actually only ever played the minuscule amount of exclusives Xbox has to offer (State of Decay 2, Halo MCC and Gears 4/5 Ultimate - Both of which I own anyway) and I haven't even played them (Bar Gears 4) on my Xbox One X but rather my PC

What that's got to do with anything strawberry float knows, but if the PS Now sub has access to PlayStation's exclusives (Again, unsure due to never using it) then there's no doubt it takes a massive smelly turd all over Gamepass in the quality of titles on offer as Xbox's first party offerings have been utter strawberry floating garbage in all seriousness and that comes from someone who's enjoyed playing that strawberry floating garbage

Those who stick to 1 console will always do their utmost to defend anything negative said about it, even coming into a PS5 thread to do so

Carry on

Captain Kinopio wrote:

Hime wrote:Let's do a quick list:

Now
Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4


GP
RDR 2
No Man's Sky
Gears 5
Horizon 4
Halo 5
Halo MCC
Sea of Thieves
State of Decay 2
The Witcher 3
Ace Combat 7
Monster Hunter World
The Outer World's
Tekken 7
PES 2020
Devil May Cry 5
Sunset Overdrive
Hellblade
Yakuza 0 and Kiwami

That's not including the massive PS3 library. I'm not seeing a huge jump in quality between the two services there, please prove me wrong.

Seeing this list I guess they're closer than I thought. I think I was just ignoring a lot because I've owned 8 of those PS Now games, compared to 4 of the Gamespass ones. There's no denying the bump you have to give GP for getting exclusives on release though. Also it seems like some others Photek mentioned should be on the GP list if they're on there, Ori and Kingdom Hearts 3 at least.

I don't know why Ad is trying to shut down this conversation as fanboyism. It's interesting comparing the services.

It's not a definitive list by any means, just a cursory glance at both. I'm sure I've missed games off the Now list too.

I agree the day one addition is great but it's only any good if the games are good, Gears 5, Horizon 4 and The Outer World's were massive games to get as part of the service and MS are clearly 100% behind the service (at least while they're clearly in second place) but I'd argue from a qualitative perspective that getting this gens PS4 exclusives months after release and in a limited time period is still objectively better.

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well I didn't think it was complicated, but Game Pass users have already played those games (if they had an interest in them), so they aren't seen as a big selling point.

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well I didn't think it was complicated, but Game Pass users have already played those games (if they had an interest in them), so they aren't seen as a big selling point.

So getting games first is why you consider there the gulf in quality between the two services?

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well I didn't think it was complicated, but Game Pass users have already played those games (if they had an interest in them), so they aren't seen as a big selling point.

So getting games first is why you consider there the gulf in quality between the two services?

Amongst other things, yes. I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it, it's pretty widely regarded that Game Pass is a better service. Sony excel in plenty of other areas, but this is one they've so far fallen short in.

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well I didn't think it was complicated, but Game Pass users have already played those games (if they had an interest in them), so they aren't seen as a big selling point.

So getting games first is why you consider there the gulf in quality between the two services?

Amongst other things, yes. I don't know why you're getting so defensive about it, it's pretty widely regarded that Game Pass is a better service. Sony excel in plenty of other areas, but this is one they've so far fallen short in.

I'm not getting defensive at all, I'm trying to understand why it's Game Pass is considered so much better when I don't see it from the games available on both services.