● The PlayStation 5 Thread - Astro's Playroom sells 10m copies

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:

more heat than light wrote:

Hime wrote:Control
Metro Exodus
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Wolfenstein 2
MGS 5
Doom
Spiderman
The Evil Within 2
Dishonoured 2
Rainbow Six Seige
Just Cause 4
Bloodborne
Fallout 4.

I've bolded the titles that have previously appeared in Game Pass (Dishonored 2 is still there). Perhaps this goes some way to explaining why Now is seen as inferior.

That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well I didn't think it was complicated, but Game Pass users have already played those games (if they had an interest in them), so they aren't seen as a big selling point.

Gamepass user here. Interested in playing Metro Exodus, SotTR, Dishonoured 2 and Just Cause 4. Don't remember playing them though. Weird.

The funny thing here is that, apart from Doom, I would 100 times out of 100 pick one of the non-bolded games to play there, so making the point that the bolded ones being on the other service could explain why Now is seen as inferior seems backwards.

The forcibly streaming of PS3 games is a shambles, the mental gymnastics at play here to say they are equivalent to a downloaded game is hilarious.

God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn I believe where on PS Now for 3 months each and both came years after release not 'months'. I know you don't care for the franchise but Halo Infinite and MS Flight Simulator are in GP day and date of release, As was Forza Horizon 4, Gears 5, Ori 2, and The Outer worlds and MANY others (Cross Code next week). This day 1 policy is a big deal, AND they stay forever, you brush over these things like they are small but they are the BIG difference between the services. When I get a Series X I log into my account and I've access to my entire Digital library (from 3 generations) and everything on Gamepass.

When will The Last of Us 2 join it? in 2 years? Why aren't Sony Exclusives all in it now? Why do you have to stream TLOU 1's PS3 version instead of downloading the remaster?

Also, if you want to buy a game that's in gamepass you get 10% off. As MHTL said, Sony have gotten most things right but right now, they are behind with PS Now.

Also, Xcloud is coming down the line, added into GP Ultimate for free.

Since PS Now has come down in price, allowed downloads and expanded its library, it has definitely closed the gap somewhat. For me, it is the day one exclusives that puts GP above Now as a proposition. As I've said befire, I do question the sustainability of the service at the current price. It may bring in a lot of revenue for MS, but under this structure, I can't see it making much in profit. That being said, it may well be something I take advantage of, if I can pick up a cheap Series S and a good deal on a subscription. The PS5 would still be my primary console, simply because I prefer Sony IPs, but I'd be excited to play next gen MS exclusives, at the right place.

As a PS4 owner, I can tell you that I'm 100% jealous of Xbone owners and GamePass.
If I'd have known about Gamepass back before these consoles launched, I'd have picked an Xbone.

GP is amazing. PS Now has been as cheap as £30 for a 12 month sub. If you only own a PS4, or own a PC and don't mind playing PS exclusives in 720p, then it's a no brainer at that price.

Photek wrote:The forcibly streaming of PS3 games is a shambles, the mental gymnastics at play here to say they are equivalent to a downloaded game is hilarious.

God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn I believe where on PS Now for 3 months each and both came years after release not 'months'. I know you don't care for the franchise but Halo Infinite and MS Flight Simulator are in GP day and date of release, As was Forza Horizon 4, Gears 5, Ori 2, and The Outer worlds and MANY others (Cross Code next week). This day 1 policy is a big deal, AND they stay forever, you brush over these things like they are small but they are the BIG difference between the services. When I get a Series X I log into my account and I've access to my entire Digital library (from 3 generations) and everything on Gamepass.

When will The Last of Us 2 join it? in 2 years? Why aren't Sony Exclusives all in it now? Why do you have to stream TLOU 1's PS3 version instead of downloading the remaster?

Also, if you want to buy a game that's in gamepass you get 10% off. As MHTL said, Sony have gotten most things right but right now, they are behind with PS Now.

Also, Xcloud is coming down the line, added into GP Ultimate for free.

A giant streaming catalogue of PS3 games Vs a tiny amount of 360 games? I know which I'll pick.

MHTL argued that being on the service first is what counts so GoW , Horizon and Uncharted 4 being on there at all is what matters, no?

Day one is massive if the games are good, so far we've had some absolute stinkers, some good and a couple of very good games but nothing essential (I actually thought Gears 5 was awesome but objectively it's very much more of the same). I honestly have no idea why you think I don't like Halo,(I've finished them all and been active in the communities on here). I hope Infinite is great but a game from a developer who've put out two average to poor games and haven't released a bit of gameplay footage isn't usually a recipe for success. The potential is massive and I hope this results in a constant stream of quality games.

Victor Mildew wrote:My chosen plastic box is better than your chosen plastic box!

Xbox has a nicer new console smell.
PS5 will smell all musty by comparison.

Absolute stinkers you talk about quantity over quality. I'd rather download a game than have streaming access to a thousand. Even when Xcloud drops and I can play all my games on my phone/tablet or work PC ill only ever play strategy turn based games. You can't play any action game with a reasonable amount of control, you certainly can't play ANY game online as it would destroy the streaming speed.

The games MHTL bolded were on GP for a year at least like, if you didn't play them you didn't want to. No game has been on GP for only 3 months, no game has launched Day 1 into PS Now. Xcloud will allow you to stream every game in GP as an option, the vast majority of PSNow games don't allow you the option at all.

Games get a new lease of life on GP, DayZ had to double their servers after it joined, No Mans Sky is now top and I guarantee it's numbers increased and Fallout 76's number will soar. Wether you enjoy these games or not, the communities on each one benefits massively. Sea of Thieves has hit 12m players now and is absolutely brilliant.

Talk to any Xbox Owner and you can guarantee that most of them have GP and their game purchases have dropped dramatically. You talk of Sustainability and other ethereal gubbins like Arnie was saying 2 weeks in Total Recall. In the here an Now (pun intended) it's miles ahead. It's not even close imo.

Photek wrote:Absolute stinkers you talk about quantity over quality. I'd rather download a game than have streaming access to a thousand. Even when Xcloud drops and I can play all my games on my phone/tablet or work PC ill only ever play strategy turn based games. You can't play any action game with a reasonable amount of control, you certainly can't play ANY game online as it would destroy the streaming speed.

The games MHTL bolded were on GP for a year at least like, if you didn't play them you didn't want to. No game has been on GP for only 3 months, no game has launched Day 1 into PS Now. Xcloud will allow you to stream every game in GP as an option, the vast majority of PSNow games don't allow you the option at all.

Games get a new lease of life on GP, DayZ had to double their servers after it joined, No Mans Sky is now top and I guarantee it's numbers increased and Fallout 76's number will soar. Wether you enjoy these games or not, the communities on each one benefits massively. Sea of Thieves has hit 12m players now and is absolutely brilliant.

Talk to any Xbox Owner and you can guarantee that most of them have GP and their game purchases have dropped dramatically. You talk of Sustainability and other ethereal gubbins like Arnie was saying 2 weeks in Total Recall. In the here an Now (pun intended) it's miles ahead. It's not even close imo.

Crackdown 3 and State of Decay are considered bad. I think Crackdown is alright to be honest but it's not worth more than a couple of quid.

I streamed Control with absolutely no issues.

Losing those games to Now still isn't a positive for the service, what if I only picked up Game Pass today? Every game on PS Now can be streamed can't it?

That's great that games get a new lease of life but Sea of Thrives launched in such a state that it would have been sent out to die if it had be sold at fill price. Fallout 76 won't suddenly becomes good just because more people are playing it.

You might not think discussing the devaluing of games is important but many people disagree. There's also the very real possibility that if MS get on top again all these extremely cheap Game Pass deals suddenly disappear.

I guess there's nothing more to discuss a 10% discount, MS exclusives day one and average online games getting popular is not a gulf in quality in my opinion.

Photek wrote:You can't play any action game with a reasonable amount of control, you certainly can't play ANY game online as it would destroy the streaming speed.

What the heck

All it took was a little push

I just thought of a reason to get a PS5 on launch So the launch games, if they stay as they are, aren't that tantalising to me. So, instead, I'll get a PS5 and play Ghost of Tsushima, Days Gone and anything else I missed out on PS4 for one reason or another. (I gave up on XCOM 2 and Just Cause 3 because of the slow reload times.)

If the Yakuza games don’t work on PS5, I riot. Bought the whole RGG collection to play across the next few years.

Saint of Killers wrote:I just thought of a reason to get a PS5 on launch So the launch games, if they stay as they are, aren't that tantalising to me. So, instead, I'll get a PS5 and play Ghost of Tsushima, Days Gone and anything else I missed out on PS4 for one reason or another. (I gave up on XCOM 2 and Just Cause 3 because of the slow reload times.)

This is probably what I'll be doing with God of War and Ghosts of Tsushima (if I don't get it at launch)

Mafro wrote:This is probably what I'll be doing with God of War and Ghosts of Tsushima (if I don't get it at launch)

I'll only play Ghost on launch if it reviews really strongly.

jiggles wrote:If the Yakuza games don’t work on PS5, I riot. Bought the whole RGG collection to play across the next few years.

Judgment is another! And obviously the new Yakuza.

And if I do get a PS5 on launch, then obviously I'll be getting the new Spidey game with it.

jiggles wrote:

Photek wrote:You can't play any action game with a reasonable amount of control, you certainly can't play ANY game online as it would destroy the streaming speed.

What the heck

I happily play Destiny 2 on Stadia (don't laugh) with no drop in speed for any mode.

Engaging with the forum village idiot was a great use of 3 pages, nice one guys. What a waste.

Buffalo wrote:Engaging with the forum village idiot was a great use of 3 pages, nice one guys. What a waste.

Who's that?

It's that trouble maker Peter Crisp.

Saint of Killers wrote:It's that trouble maker Peter Crisp.

I'm the ultimate bad boy .