●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - PS5 Share Factory already available to add to PS5 library - Now includes HDR support

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Which confirmed feature interests you the most?

8K graphics
8
6%
Virtual Reality (PSVR 2)
40
28%
Backwards Compatibility
58
41%
Ray Tracing
9
6%
3D Audio
6
4%
SSD (solid state drive)
20
14%
 
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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by Photek » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:14 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Can you share play online multiplayer? If so that picture-in-picture could be plenty abusable in e.g. R6 Siege for having a live feed from your friend's screen.

There's no way it'll be up to date at all. I reckon it'd me several seconds (at least) behind.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by jawa » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 pm

KK wrote:Those top and bottom icons are going to be a bit small for those playing on a smaller TV, I'd imagine - sometimes forget not everyone is rocking 55" or more.

Yeah, I'm kinda getting the impression that a large 4K screen could be a must for the PS5 and Xbox X consoles. I have to factor a TV upgrade cost into the overall bill... it'll be some time before I go next gen!

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by Mafro » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:18 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Can you share play online multiplayer? If so that picture-in-picture could be plenty abusable in e.g. R6 Siege for having a live feed from your friend's screen.

Sounds like something developers might be able to block when they need to like they could with some of the share functions on PS4.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by MrKirov » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:23 pm

Mafro wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:Can you share play online multiplayer? If so that picture-in-picture could be plenty abusable in e.g. R6 Siege for having a live feed from your friend's screen.

Sounds like something developers might be able to block when they need to like they could with some of the share functions on PS4.


I like the idea of joining a friends party on Apex or something, and while waiting for them to finish their match, being able to watch their game on screen while I wait.

Also, Eurogamer/Digital Foundry had a hands on last night, with an interview:
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digi ... -interface

"Ultimately, everything we've seen so far of the new user interface suggests a degree of innovation that may well border on outright revolution"

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:29 pm

If Sony really push with the whole "We believe your play time is precious" I can see them gently leaning on devs to include cards for the majority of games.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:31 pm

Oh look: (From DF interview)

"So, Activities is the way the inside of the game context is exposed - we are asking developers to expose this data so it can be integrated with the system UI and that can be shown as a card, so that's one thing," he says. "The other one is Official Game Help - so we can show the Official Game Help video when you are stuck in the game, you can bring up the cards, and you can watch it... So these are all from metadata coming out from the games and linking back to the associated data. So you're right, we are asking publisher and developer to provide us the best insight information to the system. But without having the user going into the game deeply, the user can see it and the user can jump back into the game quickly."

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by Photek » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:31 pm

Saint of Killers wrote:If Sony really push with the whole "We believe your play time is precious" I can see them gently leaning on devs to include cards for the majority of games.

They should gently lean on them to provide cross saves also then. ;)

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by MrKirov » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:46 pm

Saint of Killers wrote:Oh look: (From DF interview)

"So, Activities is the way the inside of the game context is exposed - we are asking developers to expose this data so it can be integrated with the system UI and that can be shown as a card, so that's one thing," he says. "The other one is Official Game Help - so we can show the Official Game Help video when you are stuck in the game, you can bring up the cards, and you can watch it... So these are all from metadata coming out from the games and linking back to the associated data. So you're right, we are asking publisher and developer to provide us the best insight information to the system. But without having the user going into the game deeply, the user can see it and the user can jump back into the game quickly."


Interesting, if its coming directly from metadata its really no extra work to assign these any differently to say, trophy support.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:48 pm

Sod cross saves! They should include an index! With the speed of the SSDs and I/O we should now be able to scrub through the timeline of a game and jump into the action at any point. "But what about my experience points and loots?!" I'm sure the devs/pubs could figure something out. But yeah, cross saves would be nice.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by Photek » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:50 pm

TBH these 'community' features never pan out with devs. I mean every single game on Xbox has a 'club' but devs rarely support them, only first party devs do and only cos they're probably told to.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by MrKirov » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:55 pm

Saint of Killers wrote:Sod cross saves! They should include an index! With the speed of the SSDs and I/O we should now be able to scrub through the timeline of a game and jump into the action at any point. "But what about my experience points and loots?!" I'm sure the devs/pubs could figure something out. But yeah, cross saves would be nice.


I'm a bit confused by this cross save negativity though tbh, cross saves are there in the majority, its just dev dependent. And there's relatively few cases of cross saves not in the works from what ive seen.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by MrKirov » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:59 pm

Photek wrote:TBH these 'community' features never pan out with devs. I mean every single game on Xbox has a 'club' but devs rarely support them, only first party devs do and only cos they're probably told to.


Arent he game clubs on xbox are a different thing though? Theyre meeting places/online communities related to a game, and arent they all community related, and almost used for LFG kind of stuff? Custom backgrounds and people join and message and all that jazz?

These activities are completely different from that judging by the video.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - 10 games known to be not BC on PS5 - Non BC games marked 'playable on PS4 only' on PS Store
by Venom » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:05 pm

jiggles wrote:It’s just a PS5 giveaway they’re doing. I wouldn’t read into it too much.

The startup sound was already revealed back when they first showed a glimpse of the UI in the presentation that revealed how the console looks


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Saint of Killers wrote:The PS5 front end looks like a evolution of the PS4 one, but that SSD and how speedy it makes everything... bloody hell, I think I'm looking as forward to testing that out as I am about actually playing a game :lol: :x



Same! It looks sumptuous. Some features may be useful, some might not. I need more time to process, I'm going to lie down.


Sackboy looks great doesn't it?!!!

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by Preezy » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:07 pm

Looks nice and slick, but I have zero interest in the social aspect of it.

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by Saint of Killers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:18 pm


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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:37 pm

Photek wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:Can you share play online multiplayer? If so that picture-in-picture could be plenty abusable in e.g. R6 Siege for having a live feed from your friend's screen.

There's no way it'll be up to date at all. I reckon it'd me several seconds (at least) behind.


Share play has impressively low input lag on PS4. You can use it to play local co-op with a friend online (or to just hand over control entirely for your friend to play), so it's certainly not several seconds behind.

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PostRe: ●PlayStation 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of PS UI revealed
by Mafro » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:53 pm

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Photek wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:Can you share play online multiplayer? If so that picture-in-picture could be plenty abusable in e.g. R6 Siege for having a live feed from your friend's screen.

There's no way it'll be up to date at all. I reckon it'd me several seconds (at least) behind.


Share play has impressively low input lag on PS4. You can use it to play local co-op with a friend online (or to just hand over control entirely for your friend to play), so it's certainly not several seconds behind.

Peter Crisp shareplayed Bloodborne with me ages ago when I was on worse internet and I played up till after beating the Cleric Beast (without dying). It was pretty impressive, the input lag was definitely noticeable but still manageable.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by jiggles » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:31 pm

If it ends up being reliable and accurate, that “time remaining” feature is going to be brilliant.

I assume they just collect data on how long most people take, then compare how you typically trend against those times. It’s like a built-in HLTB, but more granular. Hope they have a similar count for whole games/campaigns.

The time left in chapter/book feature in Kindles, basically. I find that invaluable for identifying when I should stop.

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by OrangeRKN » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:38 pm

What would be really nice is if they actually let you see your playtimes

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PostRe: ●PS 5 - 19/11 - Evolution of UI revealed - Digital Foundry says: 'Revolution' (if tools are used to fullest by dev/p
by Tomous » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:40 pm

jiggles wrote:If it ends up being reliable and accurate, that “time remaining” feature is going to be brilliant.

I assume they just collect data on how long most people take, then compare how you typically trend against those times. It’s like a built-in HLTB, but more granular. Hope they have a similar count for whole games/campaigns.

The time left in chapter/book feature in Kindles, basically. I find that invaluable for identifying when I should stop.



Yep+"how long have I got left" and "how do i beat xyz" are 2 things I often pause a game and pull out my phone to check. Having both those built in is a brilliant feature.

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