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Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:11 pm
by Wedgie
jiggles wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I wonder how many of the people who dismissed Astrobot on PSVR as gimmicky and perfectly achievable on a flat screen with no impact on playability (it would simply reveal what an "average game" it was) are now the same people who are going wild over the PS5 Dual Sense?


I mean, were there a lot of people saying that?

I bemoaned Astro Bot Rescue Mission being PSVR exclusive, but only because it looked brilliant and I really, really don’t want a PSVR.

I’d rather be able to play that on a screen, and I’m sure many others are on the same boat, but I don’t think anyone would rather play Astro’s Playroom without the cool controller stuff


Astrobot on the VR is superb. One of the best platformers games and the VR added to the charm. If it isn’t VR, it wouldn’t be the same. In some instances there are some sections that you have to lean forward to see better, look above you as you direct your Astro Bot pal to rescue another Astrobot.

It’s magnificent.

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:12 pm
by Jenuall
To be fair it's perfectly possible to be a fan of DualSense innovations and still not like VR games, it's not like some kind of "gotcha" against someone if they hold those two opinions!

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:12 pm
by Wedgie
Mafro wrote:
Wedgie wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:Just remembered something and saved myself £30 :fp: :lol: I was all set to pay full price for Miles Morales and Demon's Souls if it'd mean I could just pop down to Asda, buy 'em and play 'em asap, as opposed to waiting in for them to be delivered. And then I remembered they're releasing the games before the consoles :fp: So yeah, just bought 'em off thegamecollectionoutlet on eBay, with the POPUPOCT20 code :phew: :idiot:


They’re releasing the PS5 games early?

Games and accessories are coming out here a week earlier than the console.


Hmm staring at the ps5 controller and games for a week would be torture. :lol:

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:02 pm
by Songwriter
Why aren’t we talking about BUGSNAX BEING FREE AT LAUNCH!!?

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:10 pm
by Dual
Songwriter wrote:Why aren’t we talking about BUGSNAX BEING FREE AT LAUNCH!!?


"free"

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:17 pm
by Mafro
Songwriter wrote:Why aren’t we talking about BUGSNAX BEING FREE AT LAUNCH!!?

cos it looks like a meme game.

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:06 pm
by Abacus
jiggles wrote:
Abacus wrote:
jiggles wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:I wonder how many of the people who dismissed Astrobot on PSVR as gimmicky and perfectly achievable on a flat screen with no impact on playability (it would simply reveal what an "average game" it was) are now the same people who are going wild over the PS5 Dual Sense?


I mean, were there a lot of people saying that?

I bemoaned Astro Bot Rescue Mission being PSVR exclusive, but only because it looked brilliant and I really, really don’t want a PSVR.

I’d rather be able to play that on a screen, and I’m sure many others are on the same boat, but I don’t think anyone would rather play Astro’s Playroom without the cool controller stuff


My take on this is that you could do it, but it would be so far from the real experience that there would be no point.

It would be like trying to play Super Mario Galaxy with a NES pad.

If you don't mind me asking, how come you don't want PSVR so much?

I did worry it would be a gimmick, but there are now certain games I just would not want to play in any other way. Not trying to convince you by the way, fine it's not your thing, was just curious as to why.


I’ve owned 2 Oculus Rifts (Dev Mk II and CV1, which I still have) and VR has never been more than a short-lived novelty for me, and I’d rather just play on a screen 100% of the time. The idea of connecting so much gooseberry fool up around my TV, for an experience that tracks worse, looks worse and runs worse than something I already dislike is about as appealing to me as a kick in the dick.


Cheers, never tried Oculus Rift, and admittedly only tried half a dozen PSVR games, but didn't notice that problem. But maybe its a software problem with whatever you've tried?

I tend to leave mine connected up, with wires cunningly concealed. I'm honestly keeping my PS4 primarily for VR stuff whilst mainly jumping to the next xbox for more standard experiences. Hey, whatever, it doesn't suit everyone, and I barely played it through summer when it was sweltering hot to be fair. Except when I tried Ace Combat 7 for an hour, nearly lost my lunch and had to hold onto the ground, sweating. Traded that in straight away.

But as for astrobot, I do think it is one of those things so specifically built around the tech that if a non VR version was made, you'd just wonder what the fuss was about. A bit like playing a light gun game with analogue sticks - you really wouldn't be missing out.

Re: ●PS5 - 19/11 - PSVR adapter now available for PS5 owners, see bottom of p215 ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualSense

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:32 pm
by Saint of Killers
Digital Foundry have put a PS5/SX video out. There's yet more DualSense gushing but this time from Richard Leadbetter.


Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:38 pm
by ITSMILNER
The hype around the dualsense really has me excited to try it out for myself

Only a few short weeks away :toot:

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:42 pm
by Saint of Killers
Imagine having the DS already, reading and hearing how good it is and not being able to use it :slol:

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:55 am
by Venom
I watched that Digital Foundry vid last night and was surprised to see even Richard Leadbetter gushing over the DualSense and how it is next-generational. I want to feel raindrops on the controller too! But more intriguing is at the end when he said "Without giving anything away and not talking about platform comparisons I think people are going to be surprised... there are surprises here." What could this possibly mean, that the PS5 grossly underperforms and people should stay away?

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:03 am
by ITSMILNER
Venom wrote:I watched that Digital Foundry vid last night and was surprised to see even Richard Leadbetter gushing over the DualSense and how it is next-generational. I want to feel raindrops on the controller too! But more intriguing is at the end when he said "Without giving anything away and not talking about platform comparisons I think people are going to be surprised... there are surprises here." What could this possibly mean, that the PS5 grossly underperforms and people should stay away?


Is it not referring to just how much of a difference the features of the new controller bring to games on PS5?

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:44 am
by Saint of Killers
No. They started teasing that line after they were done talking about the pads. If it's not console comparison related then what else is there?

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:07 pm
by ITSMILNER
Saint of Killers wrote:No. They started teasing that line after they were done talking about the pads. If it's not console comparison related then what else is there?


Ahh right, I think you guys might be spot on then. Assassins Creed Valhalla appears to not be running native 4k on PS5, maybe this is related?

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:19 pm
by Venom
ITSMILNER wrote:
Saint of Killers wrote:No. They started teasing that line after they were done talking about the pads. If it's not console comparison related then what else is there?


Ahh right, I think you guys might be spot on then. Assassins Creed Valhalla appears to not be running native 4k on PS5, maybe this is related?


Ubisoft said it runs at 4k 60fps on PS5 and Series X.

Don't be concerned about my above comment on the 'surprise' as I suspect it will actually be something good!

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:03 pm
by Yoshimi
I was really curious about Digital Foundry's 'surprise' tease too. And Giant Bomb where being equally mysterious in their video too.

It crossed my mind that each level of Astrobot could unlock backwards compatibility with the corresponding Playstation generation. But that would be a pretty mad, even for Sony!

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:16 pm
by Mafro
I bet it's a whole load of wow it's strawberry floating nothing.

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 3:55 pm
by Yoshimi


Very much 'Shadow of the Colossus' meets 'Breath of the Wild', but looks very promising. Unbelievably it's created by a team of 3 people.

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:56 pm
by Venom
Jim Ryan indirectly confirms a new VR product will be part of the future of VR and PlayStation 5 but says it won't release this year or in 2021.

Though immersion appears to be the focal point of Sony’s PS5 push, Ryan says there won’t be any immediate leaps forward from Sony in the most immersive gaming experience, virtual reality (VR). PlayStation was at the forefront of the virtual reality market for consoles, having launched a PSVR headset in 2016. While 5 million headsets were sold by January this year, sales were slowing in 2020. There are currently no public plans for a PS5-specific headset. Instead, Sony is offering adapters to use the PS4′s PSVR headset with the new console.

“I think we’re more than a few minutes from the future of VR,” Ryan said. “PlayStation believes in VR. Sony believes in VR, and we definitely believe at some point in the future, VR will represent a meaningful component of interactive entertainment. Will it be this year? No. Will it be next year? No. But will it come at some stage? We believe that. And we’re very pleased with all the experience that we’ve gained with PlayStation VR, and we look forwarding to seeing where that takes us in the future.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-ga ... interview/

Re: ●PS5 19/11 - Digital Foundry on DualSense: Actual next gen moment; revolutionary ●Raindrops keep fallin' on my DualS

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:31 pm
by ITSMILNER
a number of Ubisoft PS4 games are not compatible with PS5 including PSVR games like Star Trek Bridge Crew
https://www.ign.com/articles/ubisoft-ps5-xbox-series-x-upgrade-backward-compatible-assassins-creed

Guessing maybe PS5 BC might have more incompatible titles than we first thought?