Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Cheeky Devlin » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:19 am

That's exactly why I love it. It's a proper old school, turn based RPG with a modern sheen and high production values. We rarely get them anymore and it seems every other RPG has those awful real-time systems that I just don't get on with. Those types of RPG are fairly common these days.

It's why the news of FFVII remake having a "classic" mode has made me far more interested in it.

So Dragon Quest is fine just as it is and thankfully hasn't gone down the real-time route. :toot:

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by OrangeRKN » Mon Oct 07, 2019 9:59 am

Balladeer wrote:Sorry, yes, I’m playing it! I’m not too far in because time and other games: I’ve only just left the camp outside Cobblestone.

I’m not too keen on how it all feels like an old-school Dragon Quest with a modern veneer. Perhaps it’s silly of me to expect anything else, but after the glorious cut-scenes of the opening and seeing the environment I thought we’d be in for more of a Xenobladey affair. Instead we have a very standard turn-based game. Moving characters in battle is pointless and the glorious lush world feels like window-dressing.

It’s early days, but I can’t deny a smidgeon of disappointment.


Maybe try switching to the top-down sprite mode? ;)

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Balladeer » Mon Oct 07, 2019 10:03 am

It’s tempting, that mode seems more honest.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:That's exactly why I love it. It's a proper old school, turn based RPG with a modern sheen and high production values. We rarely get them anymore and it seems every other RPG has those awful real-time systems that I just don't get on with. Those types of RPG are fairly common these days.

We had one last year in Octopath and while that game had its flaws, I preferred its battles. It didn’t feel like it was pretending to be more than it was. I’m hopeful that the turn-based system will open up as I have really enjoyed TBSes in the recent past (Octopath, Pokémon, Bravelies), but at this stage it seems not only dull and unimaginative but misleadingly so.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by <]:^D » Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:46 am

i found the tbs really opens up very quickly once you grab some more characters and i actually found it overwhelming by the end because i had so many options (x number of characters with 20+ spells and abilities = paralysing choice in battles!)

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:46 pm

Think I've just finished the first act? (the big bad guy has just turned up and ruined everything)

Is the second part really going to start with you playing as each character individually for a bit? Just done Sylvando's Smile Squad and now I'm playing as Jade (with another bunny girl suit? :dread: ). Kind of stalls the progression a little bit!

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by Frank » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:06 pm

On my way to getting Jade back, but I've stumbled at the Jade/Booga boss fight :x

How do I check what resistance I've got to certain statuses? I seem to spend the entire fight either getting charmed (puff-puff) or dancing :fp:

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by Choclet-Milk » Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:43 am

Frank wrote:On my way to getting Jade back, but I've stumbled at the Jade/Booga boss fight :x

How do I check what resistance I've got to certain statuses? I seem to spend the entire fight either getting charmed (puff-puff) or dancing :fp:

Item descriptions will mention if they have a status resistance, but I think you can press a button on the equipment menu- I think Square/Y- to scroll through an item's stats, resistances, and crafting bonus charts.

If you're not already using Sylvando, I strongly recommend him. I found his Sobering Slap crucial to this fight.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Balladeer » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:35 am

Y'all are so far ahead of me. :( I got it at presumably the same time and, due to mixing with other games, have only just got Erik's treasure.

As an aside, no save points in dungeons is a DQ staple they really should have nixed by now.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by <]:^D » Sat Oct 26, 2019 1:13 pm

They do have save points between 'floors' in some of tge later longer ones.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:50 pm

Chocolate-Milk wrote:
Frank wrote:On my way to getting Jade back, but I've stumbled at the Jade/Booga boss fight :x

How do I check what resistance I've got to certain statuses? I seem to spend the entire fight either getting charmed (puff-puff) or dancing :fp:

Item descriptions will mention if they have a status resistance, but I think you can press a button on the equipment menu- I think Square/Y- to scroll through an item's stats, resistances, and crafting bonus charts.

If you're not already using Sylvando, I strongly recommend him. I found his Sobering Slap crucial to this fight.


Thanks. I've only got like four people at the moment ( :x ), so Sylvando's always up. I don't understand why the bosses seem so difficult at this point in the game. I'm strolling around the map wiping out normal enemies in a turn or two, and then I stumble into a boss fight and I'm absolutely flattened in one turn (well, I have one turn, the boss takes three in a row :x )

Went exploring the rest of the map because I couldn't get past Booga, and discovered Tatsunaga in Hotto. Breezed the first stage, and then in the second I'm dead in a turn or two :fp:

Is it just a case of grinding another few levels, or am I doing something drastically wrong with my equipment? This second act has properly killed my enthusiasm. All the worst RPG tropes :(

EDIT: Have attempted to forge a bunch of fire resistant stuff and a few new weapons. Will give it another go in a bit! Cross everything.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Balladeer » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:18 pm

The traditional DQ whimsy is out in force, I see: just come across the village where everyone speaks in haiku. Because of course.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Tue Oct 29, 2019 6:38 pm

Balladeer is slow
But still having fun, I hope?
(Haikus are quite hard)

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:24 pm

Act 2 spoilers here:
Vewonica wins no more : (
Serena's hair? Ew

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Balladeer » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:45 am

Frank wrote:Balladeer is slow
But still having fun, I hope?
(Haikus are quite hard)

Slow and tortoise-like
Can appreciate a game
More than faster hares.

I’m alternating
Dragon Quest with Ori and
Link’s Awakening

So it takes longer.
Also there’s the small matter
Of a social life...

But yes, it’s still fun.
I like the red-hooded mage.
Battles still dull though.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:27 pm

:lol:

That was a lot better than I managed. Finished Act 2 now, and so I've gone back and beaten Mordegon, but right this time (get kinda Endgame vibes from the whole thing :shifty: )

Now I'm grinding at the casino :x That jackpot quest will be the death of me.

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by Choclet-Milk » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:31 pm

Frank wrote:Now I'm grinding at the casino :x That jackpot quest will be the death of me.

It takes a while, but you can cheese it. In the 2nd casino, there's a bunny girl by the roulette table who tells you if you're likely to win the jackpot. You're looking for her to say something along the lines of "Somebody's gonna win soon! I can feel it!"

Keep resting at the inn until you get that line from her, then just keep putting minimum bets on one number at the roulette table.

It's tedious, but it works!

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Frank » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:42 pm

Yeah, that's what I'm trying at the moment. Spent about half an hour sleeping and checking so far :slol:

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Cheeky Devlin wrote:That's exactly why I love it. It's a proper old school, turn based RPG with a modern sheen and high production values. We rarely get them anymore and it seems every other RPG has those awful real-time systems that I just don't get on with. Those types of RPG are fairly common these days.

It's why the news of FFVII remake having a "classic" mode has made me far more interested in it.

So Dragon Quest is fine just as it is and thankfully hasn't gone down the real-time route. :toot:


If you haven't already check out Persona 5 or the previous games (inc the SMT series)

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by NBK » Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:20 pm

Just got to Yggdrasil and strawberry floating HELL.

I've been playing through the main story with the kids, so they were watching it too..."This is very terrifying" "This is like nightmares" etc.

It was a brilliant cutscene, and they were totally enthralled, but I was sitting thinking similar thoughts from a gaming point of view, because I realised that it'll no doubt be a good while before I get to go back and do the side quests and Tockle stuff that I've missed.


Hopefully there's still a good chunk of game after this latest development as I've only been playing it for about 60 hours and don't really want it to end. Absolutely loving it.

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PostRe: Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age - PC, PS4, Switch - Out now on Switch!
by Choclet-Milk » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:12 pm

NBK wrote:Hopefully there's still a good chunk of game after this latest development as I've only been playing it for about 60 hours and don't really want it to end. Absolutely loving it.

If you've only just reached that place, you've just hit the end of Act I. You've got half a game left, at least. ;)

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