ELSPA are acting like damn kids...

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PostELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by KK » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:07 pm

gi.biz wrote:ELSPA tells Labour: BBFC is not fit for purpose

ELSPA's Paul Jackson has told the Labour Party that the BBFC is not fit for purpose as a ratings system for videogames in the UK.

The latest in ELSPA's efforts to rubbish the BBFC as a credible ratings board came at a Labour Party Conference fringe event, where Jackson once again claimed the Pan-European Game Information system is better suited to rating games.

"A linear ratings system like the one the BBFC uses is designed for films with a beginning, middle and end where the outcome is always the same," said Jackson.

"It just can't cope with the infinite variety and complexity of modern videogames, and the interaction between players."

Jackson claimed the BBFC is too lenient when it comes to rating games, and that PEGI better understands the growing games business as it incorporates online play and downloadable content.

"The film ratings board continually downgrades games classified 18 by PEGI. They go to BBFC 15 or even BBFC 12. History shows us that BBFC ratings – and the UK – would regularly be out of step with our European neighbours," he said.

The BBFC and ELSPA have been engaged in a war of words since Dr Tanya Byron's report on videogames and interactive media suggested the two outfits should work together to rate videogame releases.

ELSPA has been aggressive in its efforts to push out the BBFC, with members such as Electronic Arts and Microsoft attacking the two-tier proposal.

EA's Keith Ramsdale has claimed that a joint ratings system would delay the release of games in the UK, while Microsoft's Neil Thompson believes that such a move could make games more expensive.

In response, the BBFCs David Cooke has labelled claims the organisation could not cope with the demand of rating games as "absurd".

This is absolutely pathetic. Sour grapes? Much? So now, after years of being "too strict", the BBFC are apparently "too lenient". Get knotted.

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PostRe: ELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by Exxy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:14 pm

Out of interest, since when has PEGI became a legal enforcement? I was told I legally couldn't buy Crysis Warhead on Saturday which is PEGI 16+

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PostRe: ELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by more heat than light » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:20 pm

Dodems wrote:Out of interest, since when has PEGI became a legal enforcement? I was told I legally couldn't buy Crysis Warhead on Saturday which is PEGI 16+


That's incorrect. PEGI ratings are enforced at the store's discretion.

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PostRe: ELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by JiggerJay » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:33 pm

more heat than light wrote:
Dodems wrote:Out of interest, since when has PEGI became a legal enforcement? I was told I legally couldn't buy Crysis Warhead on Saturday which is PEGI 16+


That's incorrect. PEGI ratings are enforced at the store's discretion.


A lot of stores act it out as law because they are scared of procecution.

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PostRe: ELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by Mogster » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:03 pm

JiggerJay wrote:
more heat than light wrote:
Dodems wrote:Out of interest, since when has PEGI became a legal enforcement? I was told I legally couldn't buy Crysis Warhead on Saturday which is PEGI 16+


That's incorrect. PEGI ratings are enforced at the store's discretion.


A lot of stores act it out as law because they are scared of procecution.

No they're not, and they don't "act it out like law". It's a store's right to refuse to sell anything they please to whoever they want, even if there's no legal obligation to do so. PEGI is supposed to be just as valid an age restriction as a BBFC certificate, so many stores choose to treat it as such.

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PostRe: ELSPA are acting like damn kids...
by Exxy » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:16 pm

Meh, I wasn't bothered just never knew it was legal, thought something had changed. The guy who served me is known for being overly strict on sales, turned me and my friends down loads.

Cheaper online anyway.


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