Epic vs Apple

Knoyleo wrote:
Jordan UK wrote:Also, the Epic Store is the biggest data farming exercise I’ve ever seen, dressed-up in generous give aways. Nothing is ever free.

Really? I mean, I understand that the point of all those free games is to get people onto the store and to get their contact details, but I'm not sure what other data they're harvesting beyond that. It's not exactly Facebook, is it?

Back in March 2019 there was talk of the launcher mining data from other storefronts including games, expenditure, friends lists, playing habits, etc.

Knoyleo wrote:
Jordan UK wrote:Also, the Epic Store is the biggest data farming exercise I’ve ever seen, dressed-up in generous give aways. Nothing is ever free.

Really? I mean, I understand that the point of all those free games is to get people onto the store and to get their contact details, but I'm not sure what other data they're harvesting beyond that. It's not exactly Facebook, is it?

Back in March 2019 there was talk of the launcher mining data from other storefronts including games, expenditure, friends lists, playing habits, etc.

strawberry floating hell, I’ve only just seen that Free Fortnite 1984 bollocks.

I mean strawberry float Apple, obviously. But that is some unbelievable gooseberry fool :lol:

Jordan UK wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:
Jordan UK wrote:Also, the Epic Store is the biggest data farming exercise I’ve ever seen, dressed-up in generous give aways. Nothing is ever free.

Really? I mean, I understand that the point of all those free games is to get people onto the store and to get their contact details, but I'm not sure what other data they're harvesting beyond that. It's not exactly Facebook, is it?

Back in March 2019 there was talk of the launcher mining data from other storefronts including games, expenditure, friends lists, playing habits, etc.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/03/ ... ng-on-you/

According to that article, it was creating a hashed file of your Steam data without permission, which is bad, but as data infringement of apps go, there are plenty out there that connect way more. It doesn't even appear to send that data to Epic either, unless you then authorise it.

Can't set anything more recent than that, either.

twitter.com/EpicNewsroom/status/1295430127455596544

twitter.com/Slasher/status/1295434558112960519

This whole thing is priceless :lol:

Quoted from Resetera

Maybe Tim should’ve read to the end of 1984 to see how this was going to go.

This is very entertaining to watch

I didn't like Epic's tactics in trying to weaponize their fans, but my preferred outcome would be to see Apple forced to change their policies TBH.

Epic announces #FreeFortnite tournament, and an evil apple skin

So there's a tournament, in game skins and free merchandise promoting Epic's lawsuit now. Nothing surprises me anymore.

twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1294076353965428736

twitter.com/nickstatt/status/1296901447821463554

Which shitty big corporation do we want to win here?

Epic winning is the outcome that has the biggest net good for everyone I'd say

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Epic seeking their own special deal would somewhat undermine their whole ‘fighting the evil overlord for the good of everyone’ rhetoric.

twitter.com/xboxp3/status/1297577235939856385

Tomous wrote:Which shitty big corporation do we want to win here?

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It's not so much that I want Epic to win, as that I want Apple to lose so that they are forced to open up iOS to allow sideloading of applications.

Apple will never open up iOS to allow applications to be installed from other sources. Ever. Their infrastructure and approach is now too privacy and security orientated to ever allow that.

The best you can hope for in this situation is that the developer tax will be reduced, but even that is unlikely. Certainly Epic won't impact that. It would be a goodwill gesture to developers from Apple if it came to that. Alternatively, the second best result from this situation (though indirectly) is that Apple allows game streaming applications.

Given all the information that has come out, Epic doesn't really have a leg to stand on in this lawsuit. They broke the terms of the agreement with Apple which is the basis for the suit.

You can already install applications from other sources on iOS

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