Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by Jenuall » Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:41 pm

Love it! :lol:

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by SEP » Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:28 am

Tomous wrote:Social media sites should be forced to only allow one account per user and on the point of registration, the account should be verified by acceptable forms of ID. Anyone engaging in racism gets a lifetime ban from the site.

It's ridiculous social media sites are allowed to take so little responsibility on this issue.


That would be absolutely gooseberry fool for LGBTQ+ people who aren't out to their friends/family, especially those who would likely be abused by their family if they did come out.

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by Prototype » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:19 am

Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Tomous wrote:Social media sites should be forced to only allow one account per user and on the point of registration, the account should be verified by acceptable forms of ID. Anyone engaging in racism gets a lifetime ban from the site.

It's ridiculous social media sites are allowed to take so little responsibility on this issue.


That would be absolutely gooseberry fool for LGBTQ+ people who aren't out to their friends/family, especially those who would likely be abused by their family if they did come out.


Not to mention victims of domestic abuse etc.

Social media platforms are worth billions and they should be able to efficiently moderate their content swiftly but they really don’t.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Oblomov Boblomov » Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:43 am

Twitter should IP ban racists so they are forced to communicate through MSN Messenger forevermore.

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by Memento Mori » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:35 am

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1415041432289779712



Heroes :wub:

Is there a better source for this story than "The Skwawkbox"?

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by Moggy » Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:45 am

Memento Mori wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/skwawkbox/status/1415041432289779712



Heroes :wub:

Is there a better source for this story than "The Skwawkbox"?


No idea.

It's pretty clear that Johnson wanted them to go to Number 10 and that those plans were then scrapped. There's only one real reason why that would be.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Tomous » Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:01 am

Johnson would definitely have wanted the photo op with them at Number 10, the only question is whether the request was made and rejected or if the Government read the room and didn't bother asking.

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by SEP » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:28 pm

Tomous wrote:Johnson would definitely have wanted the photo op with them at Number 10, the only question is whether the request was made and rejected or if the Government read the room and didn't bother asking.


When has this government ever read the room?

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Moggy » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:29 pm

Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
Tomous wrote:Johnson would definitely have wanted the photo op with them at Number 10, the only question is whether the request was made and rejected or if the Government read the room and didn't bother asking.


When has this government ever read the room?


When they spotted a rich donor they'd like to cuddle up to?

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by captain red dog » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:46 pm

I do think social media should have some form of ID varification. I suppose I'd equate it to something like having a phone line installed in your house, it would be very difficult to make completely untraced racist phone calls in the UK for example as it is all traceable.

It doesn't need to spell the end for Internet anonymity, just for the major sites like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram etc. The ones that have a real monopoly on the market.

I think that would stop a lot of racist abuse, and any that persist would be traceable.

The players unions should really organise a proper boycott and threaten to set up their own FA/UEFA/FIFA site/app for players to speak directly to fans. Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by SEP » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:48 pm

captain red dog wrote:Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.


Every account I've ever reported on Twitter has been banned.

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PostRe: Euro 2020
by Qikz » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:52 pm

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1414933999835877389



"Who's to blame for racism?"

"Black people!"

Interesting strategy there.


This is certainly a bold gambit lmao

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Victor Mildew » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:53 pm

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captain red dog wrote:Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.


Every account I've ever reported on Twitter has been banned.


Same here. I've not done it that often, but I always report racists and get a summary of the action taken when they get banned.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Photek » Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:57 pm

I've gotten 'actions been taken' from Twitter but not what exact action.

Someone typed the N word (with gaps cos it's blocked) in Rocket League and I reported it and the next day when I booted up the game it said the account was banned (from RL) which was pretty cool.

I used to love those threads in the Xbox forums from parents and owners complaining that MS IP banned their consoles (effectivley bricking them from ever using online) cos of racist remarks! :lol:

It's be like "my timmy can't go online anymore" Dry response:"he used a racist slur several times over chat" but given exact times and dates. :lol:

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Rubix » Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:55 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
Somebody Else's Presents wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.


Every account I've ever reported on Twitter has been banned.


Same here. I've not done it that often, but I always report racists and get a summary of the action taken when they get banned.


They just go and create another account, it doesn't stop the problem unfortunately.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Rocsteady » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:10 pm

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Moggy » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:13 pm

captain red dog wrote:I do think social media should have some form of ID varification. I suppose I'd equate it to something like having a phone line installed in your house, it would be very difficult to make completely untraced racist phone calls in the UK for example as it is all traceable.

It doesn't need to spell the end for Internet anonymity, just for the major sites like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram etc. The ones that have a real monopoly on the market.

I think that would stop a lot of racist abuse, and any that persist would be traceable.

The players unions should really organise a proper boycott and threaten to set up their own FA/UEFA/FIFA site/app for players to speak directly to fans. Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.


We should destroy the right of anonymity for gay, trans, victims of domestic abuse and those living under tyrannical regimes, plus all the people that don't have/can't afford ID to catch a few racists?

Billions of people left without a voice, just to catch people that (as we've seen) use their real names and put their employer in their bio?

Great plan.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by Knoyleo » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:20 pm

I've reported open neo nazis on twitter before, and they've often at most had a temporary account lock out. A few actual bands, but typically for tweets that were garnering a lot of attention and getting mass reported.

The most ridiculous thing about twitter moderation is there are a while host of accounts that are blocked in Germany, where they are legally required to remove nazi gooseberry fool, but they must have made an active choice to leave all that content available to the rest of the world. Twitter are capable of moderating their platform without mandating ID, but they choose not to.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by captain red dog » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:24 pm

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:I do think social media should have some form of ID varification. I suppose I'd equate it to something like having a phone line installed in your house, it would be very difficult to make completely untraced racist phone calls in the UK for example as it is all traceable.

It doesn't need to spell the end for Internet anonymity, just for the major sites like Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Instagram etc. The ones that have a real monopoly on the market.

I think that would stop a lot of racist abuse, and any that persist would be traceable.

The players unions should really organise a proper boycott and threaten to set up their own FA/UEFA/FIFA site/app for players to speak directly to fans. Twitter in particular fail to act over and over and it seems to be getting worse and not better.


We should destroy the right of anonymity for gay, trans, victims of domestic abuse and those living under tyrannical regimes, plus all the people that don't have/can't afford ID to catch a few racists?

Billions of people left without a voice, just to catch people that (as we've seen) use their real names and put their employer in their bio?

Great plan.

Twitter and social media is currently a very unsafe place for black, trans, gay, domestic abuse victims and those under tyrannical regimes. This isn't about getting rid of a safe space, that safe space does not exist at present at all.

But sure, let's all let twitter get away with allowing racist, homophobic and mysogynist content. Them big corpos need all the protection.

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PostRe: Euro 2020: Italy win it; morons, encouraged by UK govt., racially abuse England's greatest team since '66.
by OrangeRKN » Wed Jul 14, 2021 2:25 pm

I never report people on PSN because I remember reading about people having their own account banned for "false reports" and just the idea that PSN not agreeing with your report can lead to your own account being banned is mad.

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