Final Fantasy XIII

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **FatDaz** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:14 am

consolegaming wrote:
Photek wrote:
consolegaming wrote:I am over 4000 hp on each member, its not hard, its the dooooom! Is there a way of cancelling it because dispelga does nothing!

Nope, when they cast doom you just have to go all out and kill the bastard! Having said that, I just remembered it took me two goes. I got my Summon in after making it stagger the third time, still had to get it to stagger twice afterwards.

It's unfortunate but sometimes you need a small bit of luck towards the end and pray that it doen'st kill your main character.

I used Lightning as my main char, then Snow as mostly a Synergist until I had him back up Lightning with Ravager. I also had Vanille on hand with Medic, rarely deviating to all out Ravager [x3] other than for a few seconds.

A lot of the time when being attacked I had Lightning and Vanille on Medic while Snow was a Synergist which is the quickest way to regain health to whole party as Snow will usually take 90% of the damage and take the impact while the other two just cure the hell out of all of ya.

Having said all of that, I'm pretty sure all my char where over 5000hp. Equip them all to 'defense' and you should find some accesories increase you hp.

Hope is a demon when it comes to Ravager but his HP is always WAY below the others, until you level him to over 5000, I wouldn't use him, he was only about 3900 when my other char's where over 5500!

Thanks, I will give it another go later on today. If I lose this time I can see myself taking a break from the game!

I was just thinking if I am finding this annoying Demon's Souls will eat me for breakfast!

I had same trouble. I won easily by using Fang as my main and having her and Vanille use double sabateur to instill deprotect. As Soon as that and the magic weaken debuffs are on switch to COM - COM - RAV to inflict massive damage

You'll whittle health off much much faster. Sabateurs are vital in my opinion and Fang is always my main. I managed to beat him before he even cast doom in the end!

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **consolegaming** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:32 am

FatDaz wrote:
consolegaming wrote:
Photek wrote:
consolegaming wrote:I am over 4000 hp on each member, its not hard, its the dooooom! Is there a way of cancelling it because dispelga does nothing!

Nope, when they cast doom you just have to go all out and kill the bastard! Having said that, I just remembered it took me two goes. I got my Summon in after making it stagger the third time, still had to get it to stagger twice afterwards.

It's unfortunate but sometimes you need a small bit of luck towards the end and pray that it doen'st kill your main character.

I used Lightning as my main char, then Snow as mostly a Synergist until I had him back up Lightning with Ravager. I also had Vanille on hand with Medic, rarely deviating to all out Ravager [x3] other than for a few seconds.

A lot of the time when being attacked I had Lightning and Vanille on Medic while Snow was a Synergist which is the quickest way to regain health to whole party as Snow will usually take 90% of the damage and take the impact while the other two just cure the hell out of all of ya.

Having said all of that, I'm pretty sure all my char where over 5000hp. Equip them all to 'defense' and you should find some accesories increase you hp.

Hope is a demon when it comes to Ravager but his HP is always WAY below the others, until you level him to over 5000, I wouldn't use him, he was only about 3900 when my other char's where over 5500!

Thanks, I will give it another go later on today. If I lose this time I can see myself taking a break from the game!

I was just thinking if I am finding this annoying Demon's Souls will eat me for breakfast!

I had same trouble. I won easily by using Fang as my main and having her and Vanille use double sabateur to instill deprotect. As Soon as that and the magic weaken debuffs are on switch to COM - COM - RAV to inflict massive damage

You'll whittle health off much much faster. Sabateurs are vital in my opinion and Fang is always my main. I managed to beat him before he even cast doom in the end!

So the key is beating him quicker and doom is cast after a certain amount of time and not after a certain amount of hp is left. I am using Lightning as my main along with Fang and Vanille, I may swap Fang and Lightning around.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Photek** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:34 am

FatDaz wrote:I had same trouble. I won easily by using Fang as my main and having her and Vanille use double sabateur to instill deprotect. As Soon as that and the magic weaken debuffs are on switch to COM - COM - RAV to inflict massive damage

You'll whittle health off much much faster. Sabateurs are vital in my opinion and Fang is always my main. I managed to beat him before he even cast doom in the end!

I used this too, but far too many times you need to switch back to COM-COM-MED to keep everyone safe. I tend to always have Lightning as a COM in most Paradigms so she's at least keeping the stagger meter up.

edit: When possible use RAV-RAV-RAV or RAV-RAV-MED to get it to stagger faster. You can't do this with Fang however.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **consolegaming** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:27 pm

Finally beat him thanks to your help, it was all down to beating it as fast as I could. Basically doing commando attacks when it was staggered. I got the doom, but it was too little, too late for the boss!

If the combat system was not so good I doubt I would have had the patience to learn another strategy to beat the the thing!

Onwards and upwards in what is my favourite final fantasy game ever.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **SpaceJebus** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:20 pm

consolegaming wrote:If the combat system was not so good I doubt I would have had the patience to learn another strategy to beat the the thing!

Onwards and upwards in what is my favourite final fantasy game ever.

I really do wonder if I'm playing a different game to you all sometimes, onto Chapter 13 and the battle system is really costing me now. Come across a bunch of really powerful guys and I have a strategy that will work to beat them but it doesn't because my team continue to cast on every other strawberry floater first rather than the guy I say to target! Seriously frustrating stuff and it to the false real-time stuff and it is one of the worst battle systems I have played with in an RPG for a very long time.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **consolegaming** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:39 pm

SpaceJebus wrote:
consolegaming wrote:If the combat system was not so good I doubt I would have had the patience to learn another strategy to beat the the thing!

Onwards and upwards in what is my favourite final fantasy game ever.

I really do wonder if I'm playing a different game to you all sometimes, onto Chapter 13 and the battle system is really costing me now. Come across a bunch of really powerful guys and I have a strategy that will work to beat them but it doesn't because my team continue to cast on every other ****** first rather than the guy I say to target! Seriously frustrating stuff and it to the false real-time stuff and it is one of the worst battle systems I have played with in an RPG for a very long time.

From what I have gathered this game is not really for the FF veterans, but more for people coming into the franchise. I found the battle system too complicated in FF7 and FF12, but in this its so simple to learn and understand, but also has added complexity for more seasoned pros.

It is a wonderful game, the cutscenes are pure magic and I actually love the linear nature of the game. Grinding in this game is not really needed, well perhaps a little in Gran Pulse, but not so much that it takes over the experience.

I think what has put many people's noses out of joint is that the game is not what they wanted, very similar to my opinion of Super Mario Galaxy 1/2. Although its a great game, its not exactly the Super Mario 64 Part 2 that I crave.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Fallen Phoenix** » Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:55 pm

SpaceJebus wrote:
consolegaming wrote:If the combat system was not so good I doubt I would have had the patience to learn another strategy to beat the the thing!

Onwards and upwards in what is my favourite final fantasy game ever.

I really do wonder if I'm playing a different game to you all sometimes, onto Chapter 13 and the battle system is really costing me now. Come across a bunch of really powerful guys and I have a strategy that will work to beat them but it doesn't because my team continue to cast on every other ****** first rather than the guy I say to target! Seriously frustrating stuff and it to the false real-time stuff and it is one of the worst battle systems I have played with in an RPG for a very long time.

Are you using a commando to target? Your team will always attack the commandos target whether you're playing them or the AI is. If you're not using one usually they will pick there own targets until you use a paradigm with one in.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **SpaceJebus** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 12:35 am

Fallen Phoenix wrote:Are you using a commando to target? Your team will always attack the commandos target whether you're playing them or the AI is. If you're not using one usually they will pick there own targets until you use a paradigm with one in.

Good to know but that is still a stupid decision.

On the 2nd to last final boss... strawberry floating ridiculous. I honestly don't know if I can be arsed to finish the game at the moment, just gone through 3 long winded attempts to beat it. If I do eventually beat it, it feels like it will owe more to luck than judgement.

I'd quite enjoyed chapter 11 but this last chapter has been nothing but a strawberry floating grind.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Cyburn2** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:41 am

On Cie'th Mission 4 - Probably gonna do a few of these missions before going on with the story.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **CuriousOyster** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 2:41 pm

Cyburn2 wrote:On Cie'th Mission 4 - Probably gonna do a few of these missions before going on with the story.

You must be at the same part as me. Looking forward to beasting the hours away on this after a 3 month break thanks to uni!Forgot how gorgeous this looked.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Fallen Phoenix** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:52 pm

SpaceJebus wrote:
Fallen Phoenix wrote:Are you using a commando to target? Your team will always attack the commandos target whether you're playing them or the AI is. If you're not using one usually they will pick there own targets until you use a paradigm with one in.

Good to know but that is still a stupid decision.

On the 2nd to last final boss... ******* ridiculous. I honestly don't know if I can be arsed to finish the game at the moment, just gone through 3 long winded attempts to beat it. If I do eventually beat it, it feels like it will owe more to luck than judgement.

Seriously a move that takes all of you down to under 100HP unless you are a sentinal which has no build up to warn you it's coming. Oh which is then followed up by another quick attack that will take off the remaining HPs and which instant KO's summons in case you thought that wasn't **** enough.

Then on the 3rd attempt I finally survive that just to get KO'd when I think I've nearly won by an un-avoidable instant KO attack kills Lightning and it is game over because of the shitty if the leader dies that is it.

I'd quite enjoyed chapter 11 but this last chapter has been nothing but a ******* grind.

I was the same, there was a battle just before you get to the boss where you fight 2 enemies on the stairs, and I just couldnt do it. Had to use both Aegisol and Deceptisol in the end which I found stupid considering all my characters were fully maxed in there 3 main areas.

The boss I assume your on Ophan Phase 1 was for me the hardest in the game upto that point.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Roonmastor** » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:40 pm

CuriousOyster wrote:
Cyburn2 wrote:On Cie'th Mission 4 - Probably gonna do a few of these missions before going on with the story.

You must be at the same part as me. Looking forward to beasting the hours away on this after a 3 month break thanks to uni!Forgot how gorgeous this looked.

And me. I've spent the last ten days trying to do Chapter 11. This chapter is huuuuge. Done about 15 missions now, found the chocobos but don't know how to use them. I reckon I'll have to go further in the story before I'm allowed.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Meep** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:30 pm

Sorry about bumping this, but I just wanted to vent my ire about this game. I'm really disapointed in XIII, in fact it's probably the worst recent FF game. 80% of the gameplay is just pushing forward and pressing x, the story has absolutely no direction (seriously, I've been playing for over eight hours now and none of the main characters seem certain about what they should do - even the character themselves are totally lost :lol:

). To top it all off the whole thing is just one continues run down one corridor after another without break, there isn't a single down where you can hang around and talk to npcs and buy things.

Seriously, Sqaure, what is up? Did they blow all their money on FMV or something?

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Cyburn2** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:29 pm

On Cieth Mission 7, trying to grind my stats especially in Strength.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Cyburn2** » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:29 pm

Cyburn2 wrote:On Cieth Mission 7, trying to grind my stats especially in Strength.

Finally beat it, and to think it was a C-ranked mission, imagine on how hard the B/A ranked missions will be :shock:

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Pez** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:36 pm

I wasn't sure about this game going in to it due to the negative press it got but I'm on chapter 7 at the moment and loving it. :wub:

It started off a little slow but by about chapter 4 I was involved in the story and the battles got more deep and complex which led to a more enjoyable experience.

The characters are all pretty good apart from Snow.

He can be pretty awesome at times (such as the battle with his bike and the cutscene before it in chapter 7

) but his whole hero bullshit started to grate after the first half hour.

It's a fantastic looking game as well. Easily one of the best in that respect.

I'm looking forward to carrying on with it.

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Photek** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:39 pm

I didn't like 'hope', little fecker! Snow gets a bit funnier later on, Lightning is full of pure win though. :wub:

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Meep** » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:55 pm

Lightening - Cool, but not much personality for a lead character.
Snow - Annoying, his whole 'being the hero' routine gets old.
Hope - Comes across as whiney gooseberry fool to begin with but gradually becomes more tolerably as his character developes. (his medic and synergy roles making him pretty versatile in actual gameplay so he gets used a lot)
Vanielle - Her perky, happy-go-lucky thing is irritating at times but mostly she is actually pretty likeable.
Fang - She is pretty much functioning as the voice of dissent in the group, so she's sort of predictable.
Sahz - Actually, probably my most liked character. He seems like the most 'normal' out of all them and you could sort of relate to him as a regular guy thrown into wild curumstances and trying to do the right thing.

A few random questions. I just reached Pulse and did my first hunt mission.

Where do the disc changes happen in the X360 version? Also, am I right in assuming that the bit I'm on now is basically a bunch of optional side-quests and grinding chances, with not much story left to go?

PostRe: Final Fantasy XIII by **Photek** » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:05 pm

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:A few random questions. I just reached Pulse and did my first hunt mission.

Where do the disc changes happen in the X360 version? Also, am I right in assuming that the bit I'm on now is basically a bunch of optional side-quests and grinding chances, with not much story left to go?

Theres a fair bit of story left but yeah, you're on the last run in. The disc change to disc 3 [the final disc] happens before gran pulse, a good bit before actually. Can't remember exactly though.

You get a chance to come back to gran pulse a little later if you want to advance the story btw. I'd grind for a bit though cos it gets tough.

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