Forza Horizon 5 (Xbox/PC/Cloud/Game Pass) Let’s ¡Go! Over 37m players.

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rinks wrote:If anyone is searching, I’ve found some snowmen in Mulege. They don’t always register as hits, so you might need to smash a few extra.

There are also 4 on top of the mountain near the "lava" pool. But the trick is to switch to solo, smash a snowman, rewind, repeat.

Ah, good tip. I found plenty, but about half didn’t register. Got enough for the festival playlist objective, but not quite for the Accolade. I expect/hope they’ll have respawned when I boot up this evening.

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A thing with this season is that you get 2pts for photographing the peel trident which goes towards unlocking the peel trident for this season. PG really has some completely moronic quality control checking in FH5.

I’m more bothered about the season 2 accolade that requires you to own both Peels, but one of them doesn’t seem to be obtainable anywhere (unless it’s the car that will be given away if the community sends enough gifts).

How does everyone find the handling in this game compared to Horizon 4? I have only played a few hours of this (I played 4 to death) and my initial impressions are that handling overall is definitely a bit more unforgiving on the whole.

I’m also finding it much more difficult to get very grippy tunes. My BAC Mono in Horizon 4 cornered like it was on rails - I haven’t been able to achieve anywhere near the same in 5 though. Ditto for a couple of other cars. Several high-end track/hyper cars also seem to have had their default handling rating downgraded compared to the equivalent car in 4.

Is it just my imagination, or has anyone else noticed the same thing?

It is definitely more slidy, especially on loose stuff. The koniseggs are crazy to control at speed.

Best handling car I’ve tried is the lambo sensa Forza elementa, that thing is on rails.

I do like a bit of sliding though, makes it more challenging and fun.

In terms of grip, yeah the surface/tyre type makes a big difference compared to FH4. Tarmac/dirt/offroad surfaces and slick/semi slick/rally/offroad tyres make an appreciable differnce when on the many transitions between these surfaces. Also some stock tyres appear to be hybrids / better than theses "premium tyre" choices - sometimes.

My BAC S1 semi slick tune is quite good, but its not as good as a slick tune if you stay 100% on tarmac. and its not as good as a raly tune if mainly going on rally tracks. This also seems to be reacted in the suspension set up with alot more variations than FH4. Having said all this - whilst its probably a good physics achievement, its probably to the detriment of fun / playing the game. For example - I have a good rally tune on my car and the rally track might be 50% on tarmac, the car is slower than the others over the tarmac, but then i really catch up to the others once we get on the dirt - This is alot more apparent to me in FH5 than FH4.

JT986M2 wrote:How does everyone find the handling in this game compared to Horizon 4? I have only played a few hours of this (I played 4 to death) and my initial impressions are that handling overall is definitely a bit more unforgiving on the whole.

I’m also finding it much more difficult to get very grippy tunes. My BAC Mono in Horizon 4 cornered like it was on rails - I haven’t been able to achieve anywhere near the same in 5 though. Ditto for a couple of other cars. Several high-end track/hyper cars also seem to have had their default handling rating downgraded compared to the equivalent car in 4.

Is it just my imagination, or has anyone else noticed the same thing?

Honestly I find it really easy to just drift into corners on the most part, preferably using the AI as a cushion. For all the 'realism' posts it really is closer to an arcade racer than the subtleties of Gran Turismo.

The trial this week, and last week is a joke. Whoever thought these were a good idea needs shooting. You get put with randoms, the ai are glued to the road, and unless you have a team of 6 decent and committed drivers is impossible. Invariably, you get a couple of people just hoping to do nothing and win the trial, so unless you have a couple of blinding racers, it’s a tedious and frustrating exercise.

It’s a joke. Might delete it to stop me trying to get the rewards each season.

I'm not sure if people want to work out the treasure challenge for themselves, so I'll put a spoiler in place

Bertie wrote:The trial this week, and last week is a joke. Whoever thought these were a good idea needs shooting. You get put with randoms, the ai are glued to the road, and unless you have a team of 6 decent and committed drivers is impossible. Invariably, you get a couple of people just hoping to do nothing and win the trial, so unless you have a couple of blinding racers, it’s a tedious and frustrating exercise.

It’s a joke. Might delete it to stop me trying to get the rewards each season.

I usually enjoy The Trial, but so far in 4 attempts this week I seem to be encountering a huge number of pricks that are purposefully taking out their own team mates.

GrinWithoutaKat wrote:

Bertie wrote:The trial this week, and last week is a joke. Whoever thought these were a good idea needs shooting. You get put with randoms, the ai are glued to the road, and unless you have a team of 6 decent and committed drivers is impossible. Invariably, you get a couple of people just hoping to do nothing and win the trial, so unless you have a couple of blinding racers, it’s a tedious and frustrating exercise.

It’s a joke. Might delete it to stop me trying to get the rewards each season.

I usually enjoy The Trial, but so far in 4 attempts this week I seem to be encountering a huge number of pricks that are purposefully taking out their own team mates.

Yep, same. It’s as if they don’t understand it’s a team red vs blue. There is no point or value to taking your team out.

This trial is BS. night street races are bad anyway, but to limit it to S1 hoonigons that cant corner is idiocy on the part of the game designers.

Also the Siesto FE is in the forza shop for 24hrs only. 600FP. Good car to get.

mcjihge2 wrote:This trial is BS. night street races are bad anyway, but to limit it to S1 hoonigons that cant corner is idiocy on the part of the game designers.

Also the Siesto FE is in the forza shop for 24hrs only. 600FP. Good car to get.

I just realised they did the same '24 hours only' thing last week and I missed out on the 16 million credits Testa Rossa. Doh!

I got the trial - the first race i was 3rd with another player in 2nd - the three bottom players quit, so we got the win. Second race that othe player came 2nd again, i hit a tree early on, but the other player missed a check point late then quit - so we got the win for that too.

If we do form a GR group to tackle the trial - our best strategy is for one of us to bring in a S1-900 tuned car and 5 others to bring S1 - 801 car then the five park up and quit straight away. That way i think the remaining player only needs to get 4th (?) in a field of mainly remaining underpowered cpu cars. - Repeat 6 times, however i think the party/convoy system is still rubbish.

mcjihge2 wrote:I got the trial - the first race i was 3rd with another player in 2nd - the three bottom players quit, so we got the win. Second race that othe player came 2nd again, i hit a tree early on, but the other player missed a check point late then quit - so we got the win for that too.

If we do form a GR group to tackle the trial - our best strategy is for one of us to bring in a S1-900 tuned car and 5 others to bring S1 - 801 car then the five park up and quit straight away. That way i think the remaining player only needs to get 4th (?) in a field of mainly remaining underpowered cpu cars. - Repeat 6 times, however i think the party/convoy system is still rubbish.

This is why the trials are gooseberry fool. Shouldn’t require this.

I just can’t be arsed with it anymore. Lots of other games that I should play instead.

mcjihge2 wrote:In terms of grip, yeah the surface/tyre type makes a big difference compared to FH4. Tarmac/dirt/offroad surfaces and slick/semi slick/rally/offroad tyres make an appreciable differnce when on the many transitions between these surfaces. Also some stock tyres appear to be hybrids / better than theses "premium tyre" choices - sometimes.

My BAC S1 semi slick tune is quite good, but its not as good as a slick tune if you stay 100% on tarmac. and its not as good as a raly tune if mainly going on rally tracks. This also seems to be reacted in the suspension set up with alot more variations than FH4. Having said all this - whilst its probably a good physics achievement, its probably to the detriment of fun / playing the game.

I agree with this - especially the part in bold. Although it does make the cars 'feel' more real, it does make it quite annoying when you are charging towards a road/street race in a slick-wheeled sports car, and then the GPS decides that the only way to it is via a random dirt road. Whereas it would have been annoying in FH4, it is far more annoying in FH5 given just how much more responsive tyres are to surfaces. As a result I just end up using my Ford Bronco - for which I've created a good ~A740 tune - for everything that isn't races. Bit annoying given there are some sportier cars in my garage that I wouldn't mind seeing the sights with.

So far my favourite cars are:

- DeBerti Ford F-150 (A735 - cross-country)
- Ford Bronco (A745 - cross-country / general off road / travel)
- #2069 Ford Performance Bronco (A7XX - for ripping round the landscape like a loon)
- 2011 Subaru WRX STI (A7 - rally)

I haven't found a 'Rally Monster' that I get on with yet. My favourite in FH4 was a Honda Civic Coupe GRC, but that isn't in FH5. My favourite prior to finding that Honda that was a Ford Fiesta #14 Rahal Letterman, but it is far too slippy in FH5.

I haven't found many non off-road cars that I've clicked with yet. I have a Porsche 918 Spyder which is very grippy - and fast - that is tuned as a S2. A Ferrari 458 which looks promising as an S1. Also a Lamborghini something which is very grippy, but it is in the same car class as the Porsche 918 Spyder, and since it is slower, it loses out to the Porsche overall. My go-to all around sports car in FH4 was an Audi R8, but it handles nowhere near as well in FH5 (to me at least). Ditto for the BAC Mono on the track side of things. Not quite as drastic as the Audi, but nowhere near as grippy as FH4.

I'm working through the off-road events at the minute (as an aside - man, The Gauntlet was an epic) before moving onto tarmac.

I just need the seasonal destruction challenges to appear now and then I won’t bother touching the game outside of that

Worst game in the series with all the problems it’s had and still has. Gutted that I spent money on the ultimate edition