'Game 1.5'

Man, the following roast my trotters:

'[game X] says hello.': whoever says that better reside in a crystal tower and wear top hat and monocle because it is about as ostentatious as it gets. Otherwise, you're just a banana split.

'Ad-hoc': just a trash buzzword.

And:

chalkitdown wrote:Also, SKU

This.

Also:

chalkitdown wrote:Also, SKU

This.

This.


TIME PARADOX.

"[Game A] has more [quality X] in its [small unit of measurement] than [game B] has in its [large unit of measurement]."

Seven wrote: I mean I was playing Fallout 3 on my mate's PC, and it was more better than my Xbox 360 version,

How much more better is more better than better?

OLIN wrote:

Seven wrote: I mean I was playing Fallout 3 on my mate's PC, and it was more better than my Xbox 360 version,

How much more better is more better than better?

In quite many ways, if you have uber PC that is. It runs smoothly than Xbox 360 version, the control setup is far better, and it does look better/smoother than Xbox 360 version I will have to say. Also, you can also download mods/such, so it makes PC version far superior version over Xbox 360 version.

That's if your PC can handle it that is. My PC won't be able to stand it so I had to settle for Xbox 360 version which is good enough.

My pc shys towards the 'unbetter' end of the market.

Jaxley wrote:

TheTurnipKing wrote:

This is me breathing wrote:Yes, I hate games being called 1.5.

Although its probably more down to it being completely untrue in its use.

There did used to be games that had barely anything changed from the original game. To see such sequels as Fable and Gears get lumbered with this is completely laughable.

Fable 2 isn't EVEN Fable 1.5

Did you play the first? Trust me, it's better not to get into an argument with Hugo.

Almost directly before buying Fable 2. I was skint, wanted to play Fable 2 and had points, so I bought the Xbox Originals version to tide me over.

CrashHornet wrote:

Dear GRcade,

Can you stop using this completely gash term please.

Hugs and kisses,

CrashHornet

To give this topic a point, what gaming mumbo-jumbo can't you stand? I also heartily dislike the term 'Triple A' too, because it just doesn't have any meaning anymore, even if it did in the first place.

Disgust.

To be fair, AAA still means a lot to me. I only buy games I see as triple A because I just don't have the time to play 'other' games much anymore. I've got every console on the market after I bought a PS3 on Sunday and as we speak, I'm browsing the back catalogue to find the AAA games to play. Shouldn't take long.



As for Xbox, I've got Gears, BioShock, Halo3, PGR4. Wii I've got Resi4, Mario Galaxy and a few other non-AAA games. I can't be alone on this one.

While I sometimes slip up in my decision making, I can't exactly afford to buy anything less than the so-called "AAA" either... If it's not considered "great" by the community and press, and if I don't find a great deal of favour with the demo (and I do like a good demo), I'll simply miss the game out, even if it is a good game and would otherwise be purchased post haste.

This is where the community looking at great games already released and having post-mortem discussions comes in very handy.

Alvin Flummux wrote:While I sometimes slip up in my decision making, I can't exactly afford to buy any old guff any more either... If it's not considered "great" by the community and press, and if I don't find a great deal of favour with the demo (and I do like a good demo), I simply miss the game out, even if it is a good game and would otherwise be purchased post haste.

Same. If they can't be arsed to put a good demo together, I'm not buying the game.

IronHide wrote:

MCN wrote:I despise the use of Hardcore and Casual to refer to gamers, as if those are the only two types of gamer, and they should never associate with one another.

This.

Definitely this.

Plus anyone who devotes an argument to an Edge score as if it is the definiteve answer. Or that if edge gives it a bad score then it means you won't play it. Seriously What the strawberry float?

Rik wrote:The keyboard is one of the worst game control devices ever, just look at it. You got used to it, that doesn't make it good, also the Wii has barely registered in the FPS market. Mainly because most of the efforts have been complete rubbish control wise, yes Red Steel.

joke? I mean come on, 1 on 1 PC gamer with keyboard mouse weould probably beat a 360 controller, the keyboard is a fantastic addition for controlling games with the mouse. Without a keyboard alot of games would be completley strawberry floated.

RTS's do not play as well on a console as they do with a keyboard FACT the keyboard is a massive part of gaming and is an essential and very good gaming controller.

JNR wrote:

CrashHornet wrote:

Dear GRcade,

Can you stop using this completely gash term please.

Hugs and kisses,

CrashHornet

To give this topic a point, what gaming mumbo-jumbo can't you stand? I also heartily dislike the term 'Triple A' too, because it just doesn't have any meaning anymore, even if it did in the first place.

Disgust.

To be fair, AAA still means a lot to me. I only buy games I see as triple A because I just don't have the time to play 'other' games much anymore. I've got every console on the market after I bought a PS3 on Sunday and as we speak, I'm browsing the back catalogue to find the AAA games to play. Shouldn't take long.



As for Xbox, I've got Gears, BioShock, Halo3, PGR4. Wii I've got Resi4, Mario Galaxy and a few other non-AAA games. I can't be alone on this one.

I think the issue with 'AAA' is when people use it erroneously in an argument to back up some meaningless point. The example above is how the term is meant to be used.

Raze wrote:

JNR wrote:

CrashHornet wrote:

Dear GRcade,

Can you stop using this completely gash term please.

Hugs and kisses,

CrashHornet

To give this topic a point, what gaming mumbo-jumbo can't you stand? I also heartily dislike the term 'Triple A' too, because it just doesn't have any meaning anymore, even if it did in the first place.

Disgust.

To be fair, AAA still means a lot to me. I only buy games I see as triple A because I just don't have the time to play 'other' games much anymore. I've got every console on the market after I bought a PS3 on Sunday and as we speak, I'm browsing the back catalogue to find the AAA games to play. Shouldn't take long.



As for Xbox, I've got Gears, BioShock, Halo3, PGR4. Wii I've got Resi4, Mario Galaxy and a few other non-AAA games. I can't be alone on this one.

I think the issue with 'AAA' is when people use it erroneously in an argument to back up some meaningless point. The example above is how the term is meant to be used.

You noes it. My problem with AAA is the erroneous and over use of it. It's become a meaningless term, not neccessarily a meaningless concept.

Neph wrote:

IronHide wrote:

MCN wrote:I despise the use of Hardcore and Casual to refer to gamers, as if those are the only two types of gamer, and they should never associate with one another.

This.

Definitely this.

Plus anyone who devotes an argument to an Edge score as if it is the definiteve answer. Or that if edge gives it a bad score then it means you won't play it. Seriously What the strawberry float?

Rik wrote:The keyboard is one of the worst game control devices ever, just look at it. You got used to it, that doesn't make it good, also the Wii has barely registered in the FPS market. Mainly because most of the efforts have been complete rubbish control wise, yes Red Steel.

joke? I mean come on, 1 on 1 PC gamer with keyboard mouse weould probably beat a 360 controller, the keyboard is a fantastic addition for controlling games with the mouse. Without a keyboard alot of games would be completley strawberry floated.

RTS's do not play as well on a console as they do with a keyboard FACT the keyboard is a massive part of gaming and is an essential and very good gaming controller.

I don't like playing games with a keyboard and mouse. It reminds me of work.

The mouse is good - the keyboard kinda sucks. It's just a bunch of buttons - something more ergonomic would be better. Also there's no analogue movement with keyboard and mouse. It's either run full pelt or creep. It's like playing Turok on the N64 in terms of movement.

But it's not surprising the FPSs and RTS work better with a mouse, the entire gameplay is based around fast, accurate pointing and clicking, which is what a mouse was invented for.

However the mouse and keyboard is not very versatile. You wouldn't play a fighting game, platform game, driving game etc with that set up. Also it's an RSI inducing nightmare. It's not as good an all round gaming controller as a dedicated pad (unsurprisingly).

mokeyjoe wrote:

Neph wrote:

IronHide wrote:

MCN wrote:I despise the use of Hardcore and Casual to refer to gamers, as if those are the only two types of gamer, and they should never associate with one another.

This.

Definitely this.

Plus anyone who devotes an argument to an Edge score as if it is the definiteve answer. Or that if edge gives it a bad score then it means you won't play it. Seriously What the strawberry float?

Rik wrote:The keyboard is one of the worst game control devices ever, just look at it. You got used to it, that doesn't make it good, also the Wii has barely registered in the FPS market. Mainly because most of the efforts have been complete rubbish control wise, yes Red Steel.

joke? I mean come on, 1 on 1 PC gamer with keyboard mouse weould probably beat a 360 controller, the keyboard is a fantastic addition for controlling games with the mouse. Without a keyboard alot of games would be completley strawberry floated.

RTS's do not play as well on a console as they do with a keyboard FACT the keyboard is a massive part of gaming and is an essential and very good gaming controller.

I don't like playing games with a keyboard and mouse. It reminds me of work.

The mouse is good - the keyboard kinda sucks. It's just a bunch of buttons - something more ergonomic would be better. Also there's no analogue movement with keyboard and mouse. It's either run full pelt or creep. It's like playing Turok on the N64 in terms of movement.

But it's not surprising the FPSs and RTS work better with a mouse, the entire gameplay is based around fast, accurate pointing and clicking, which is what a mouse was invented for.

However the mouse and keyboard is not very versatile. You wouldn't play a fighting game, platform game, driving game etc with that set up. Also it's an RSI inducing nightmare. It's not as good an all round gaming controller as a dedicated pad (unsurprisingly).

On the contrary, the keyboard is INCREDIBLY versatile. All of the games you mentioned CAN be played with a keyboard, even if you'd never choose it over anything else. It's a general purpose device. However, it's very rarely the best device for any given situation.

Also, analogue movement is rarely essential and is usually more than compensated for by the significantly increased accuracy in aiming.

'I'm getting it on [console X] because the AA is so much better than [console Y].'

Fan-bloody-tastic. We must ensure we point out the one we're getting looks slightly better than the one the other mugs are going to buy. Forget the fact that both games look draw-droppingly amazing!

'Indie' and 'Homebrew' are ones I don't like, as they apparently just give the developer license to create gooseberry fool, but because it's 'indie' it must be okay.

Agent47 wrote:'Indie' and 'Homebrew' are ones I don't like, as they apparently just give the developer license to create gooseberry fool, but because it's 'indie' it must be okay.

I think it's more of a case of saying "we have no budget", which basically means you should expect rough edges, little polish, unusual gameplay mechanics and in the case of homebrew, esoteric work-arounds to even get the code to run.

Naturally, these things are likely to divide opinion.

TheTurnipKing wrote:On the contrary, the keyboard is INCREDIBLY versatile. All of the games you mentioned CAN be played with a keyboard, even if you'd never choose it over anything else. It's a general purpose device. However, it's very rarely the best device for any given situation.

Also, analogue movement is rarely essential and is usually more than compensated for by the significantly increased accuracy in aiming.

You think? When I used to bother with PC gaming all those genre's seemed horrible with a keyboard. Streetfighter 2 on MAME with a keyboard is horrible. So I bought a pad, no big deal. And digital control in a driving game? Maybe if we were stuck in 1995.

To be honest though games are designed around the peripherals they are meant to be played with. FPSs evolved on the PC so it stands to reason that they're the best peripheral for the job. Fighters evolved in the arcade so if you're serious about the genre then you play with a stick.

3rd person action adventures for instance are a console staple so pads really are the best thing for the job. I couldn't even fathom trying to play Ninja Gaiden with a keyboard.

Agent47 wrote:'Indie' and 'Homebrew' are ones I don't like, as they apparently just give the developer license to create gooseberry fool, but because it's 'indie' it must be okay.

Indie means 'small independent' in general business terms (which offers the simplest definition). Therefore it is the developer that is indie, not the game.

Again, erroneous usage. But it is jargon to an extent.

Also, chalk one up for pointless tech talk. I'm talking about people referring to the game engine in criticism or praise of their game, and things like that. "Oh, the Gamebryo engine is a little out of date but Fallout 3 is still good," or, "it must be good, it runs on U3." It's meaningless and dull to read.