General Games Chat; The Chat Thread!

[Herdanos]

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2023/ ... ideo-games

Grim news heralded in a report published this week by the Video Game History Foundation, which claims that 87% of video games released before 2010 are no longer commercially available. This equates to a lacuna of tens of thousands of works, many of which represent key moments in the medium’s evolution. It’s an excruciating loss of source material for the people who worked on these games, as well as for historians and archivists, for gem-hunters and for any younger player who might wish to enjoy interactive works created in different socio-political circumstances, against different technological constraints and fashions or within different market conditions.

The void is not unique to video games – there are books that are no longer published even in digital form, some films can only be watched on defunct formats, others disappear from streaming services mere months after release – but the scale of the video game void is unmatched in other media. According to the report, less than 5% of games from the Commodore 64 are still available today. The 13% availability rate of classic video games is one percentage point less than that of American silent films. As the foundation’s co-director Frank Cifaldi tweeted: “Nine out of 10 classic video games are no longer available to consumers, and that number is unlikely to get any better. It’s practically guaranteed that something you grew up with is gone, for ever.”

The reasons for the vacuum are myriad – and slightly tedious. The technology for distributing books and films is straightforward and mostly unchanging. By contrast, every video game system is different, so bringing, say, a Spectrum game to a PlayStation 5 requires various acts of technological reshaping. There may be question of expired licenses (both the Xbox’s joyous OutRun 2 and the Dreamcast’s solemn Ferrari 355 Challenge were based on expensive and time-limited authorisations from the Italian carmaker). And, while some major game companies like EA have archivists dedicated to collecting their teams’ art materials and source code, the video game industry has always failed to properly recognise and celebrate its past. Sega reportedly lost the source code for one of its most celebrated and difficult-to-find Saturn games, Panzer Dragoon Saga, leaving anyone who wants to play the game to slink off to eBay, where, grief-stricken, they will have to pay a minimum of £500 for the privilege.

Video games are, in part, iterative works of technology and engineering, like toasters, or televisions, so there is an inherent assumption that the new must always surpass the old. A wag might point out that, with a series as iterative as Fifa, who would want to sit down for a match of Fifa 15, 16, 17 or 18 when Fifa 23 exists? Well, even these evolutionary series have enduring vectors of interest: each game offers a snapshot of professional soccer at a particular moment. When so much real-world data is drawn into each game, a Fifa 15 can, surprisingly, offer a tactile, holistic snapshot of the beautiful game at a particular moment in history. And games are simultaneously artistic works; oftentimes the best writing, music, and designs are found not in the great plains of the now, but in the dark forests of the past.

The options for anyone wanting to play older video games are woundingly limited: either find the original hardware, or delve into the perilous terrain of emulation. Neither is straightforward. Cartridges and consoles age like people; yellowing plastic is a cosmetic affliction, but if a capacitor on the chipboard leaks it can cause irreparable damage. Then there are the costs involved: securing a basic Super Nintendo or Sega MegaDrive is relatively affordable; finding a copy of the classic RPG Chrono Trigger or Treasure’s masterpiece Alien Soldier will cost you several hundred pounds on eBay. A conservative estimate puts the value of the entire Neo Geo library of games – all European, US and Japanese variants – at around $250,000.

Emulation is equally fraught terrain: once you’ve downloaded and installed the software to play, say, the Neo Geo library, you have the much trickier task of locating the “Roms” themselves, those files that contain the game’s code, art and music, and which, due to the questionable legality of distribution, can often only be found on virus-riddled, pop-up-laced websites designed to steal bank details from an octogenarian’s laptop. Notably, emulation can only ever offer an approximation of the original hardware’s behaviour, so is never a wholly accurate representation of the original.

I am relatively fortunate. My father was always working on a collection of one kind of another when I was growing up: matchbox cars; gramophone needle tins; first editions of every Booker prize winner. I would accompany him early on a Saturday morning to Portobello Road market, and flick through bootleg cassettes of Nirvana gigs while he ducked and haggled among the stalls. I learned from him the value in spotting a future collectible and was taught to always look after the things I treasured, keeping the packaging safe and ensuring the right CDs and cartridges went back into the right boxes. As such, I still own most of the consoles I’ve bought in my lifetime, as well as many video games that I could not easily afford if I had to repurchase them today.

For those who want to play classic games in accurate ways the rise of field-programmable gate array (FGPA) chips, which allow the creation of wunderkind cartridges that can be loaded with Roms, but which work on the original hardware, provide an elitists’ route into the scene. Hobbyist engineers have created a slew of FGPA cartridges for classic systems, such as the Everdrive series designed and sold by the Ukrainian programmer Igor Golubovskiy, or the Spanish team Terraonion – high-quality ways to play old games in authentic ways, driven by contemporary technologies. But these remain expensive options for wealthy enthusiasts (even then you also need to own a CRT television to run the games in their proper format – a form of technology that is no longer manufactured anywhere).

Emulation, then, seems to be the most democratic, workable way to salvage video game history. There is an appetite for a catch-all solution. In 2021, Microsoft gaming chief Phil Spencer told Axios he hoped for an industry-wide, emulation-based solution to preserving older video games. (Microsoft, it should be noted, has done more work to preserve and promote its back catalogue than its rivals). And while game companies have, in the past, shown themselves to be litigious when it comes to emulation – a close cousin, arguably, to piracy – the hobbyist archivists have sometimes come to the rescue too. Recently I spoke to Kelsey Lewin, co-director of the Video Game Foundation on my podcast My Perfect Console. She revealed that when staff at Disney realised the company had lost the source code for film tie-in game, Aladdin, the foundation was able to provide them with copies of the files – proof, perhaps, that the future of video-gaming’s past may be reliant, not on the publishers, but on the people.

[Cheeky Devlin]

It's such a depressing state of affairs that so much stuff is essentially just gone forever now.

It's also a slap in the face for the idea that digital information is forever. It can just as easily be lost if it's not properly archived.

[site23]

People who make emulators and/or keep public archives of ROMs are heroes who are single-handedly preserving our history and culture for future generations.

[jawa_]

Much of the gaming industry does not really want games to be preserved or even to remain accessible; they are focused entirely on selling you new games.

Digital should have been a mechanism for enabling a delightful world where older games were available pretty much forever; instead that mechanism is used to stop and delete.

Dang, that's way too much of a downer thought for a Friday morning!

[Super Dragon 64]

People who make emulators and/or keep public archives of ROMs are heroes who are single-handedly preserving our history and culture for future generations.

Based Devlin

[OrangeRKN]

Thanks for the reminder that I really need to properly play Panzer Dragoon Saga!

[Cheeky Devlin]

People who make emulators and/or keep public archives of ROMs are heroes who are single-handedly preserving our history and culture for future generations.

Based Devlin

Not all heroes wear capes.

[Knoyleo]

[<]:^D]

very good

[jawa_]

Sega has cancelled the Hyenas game being developed by Creative Assembly; layoffs are expected.

Today, Sega announced it had cancelled Hyenas in a financial update. It blamed the decision on "lower profitability of the European region" which had caused it to review its project portfolio. "The resulting action will be to cancel Hyenas and some unannounced titles under development," Sega wrote.

Source: Eurogamer

[Victor Mildew]

Who's laughing now?

[site23]

Who's laughing now?

Clever!

[Preezy]

I see that Aliens: Fireteam Elite is on sale on the PS5 (£16.49 for the Standard + DLC edition) - anyone played it that would give it a recommend? I don't intend on playing it online or anything so would be strictly single player, I know that probably counts against it but I loves me some Aliens even if the gameplay is less than stellar

[sawyerpip]

I see that Aliens: Fireteam Elite is on sale on the PS5 (£16.49 for the Standard + DLC edition) - anyone played it that would give it a recommend? I don't intend on playing it online or anything so would be strictly single player, I know that probably counts against it but I loves me some Aliens even if the gameplay is less than stellar

I enjoyed the base game well enough, haven't played the DLC. It's certainly nothing special, but if you're looking to just play through a game in the Aliens world and blast Xenomorphs with pulse rifles I think it's fun enough and probably worth it at less than £20.

Keep in mind though that if you are playing offline, the teammate bots can do a job on the lower difficulties but you won't be able to play through on the higher ones as they will be too difficult with the AI.

[Preezy]

I see that Aliens: Fireteam Elite is on sale on the PS5 (£16.49 for the Standard + DLC edition) - anyone played it that would give it a recommend? I don't intend on playing it online or anything so would be strictly single player, I know that probably counts against it but I loves me some Aliens even if the gameplay is less than stellar

I enjoyed the base game well enough, haven't played the DLC. It's certainly nothing special, but if you're looking to just play through a game in the Aliens world and blast Xenomorphs with pulse rifles I think it's fun enough and probably worth it at less than £20.

Keep in mind though that if you are playing offline, the teammate bots can do a job on the lower difficulties but you won't be able to play through on the higher ones as they will be too difficult with the AI.

Cheers for that dude, I might give it a chance.

[ITSMILNER]

Anyone go to EGX this weekend? Forgot it was on until I see the posts on Twitter/X

[jawa_]

twitter.com/bethesda/status/1713917988963795369

Pete Hines is retiring from Bethesda, leaving his Senior Vice President (Head of Publishing) role. Seems to be a bit of a surprise.

[jawa_]

I am envious.

Envious of folk playing Mario Wonder and Spider-Man 2 this weekend!

But, hey, I hope that you enjoy 'em and I still have F76 to get stuck into tonight :-).

[sawyerpip]

I see that Aliens: Fireteam Elite is on sale on the PS5 (£16.49 for the Standard + DLC edition) - anyone played it that would give it a recommend? I don't intend on playing it online or anything so would be strictly single player, I know that probably counts against it but I loves me some Aliens even if the gameplay is less than stellar

I enjoyed the base game well enough, haven't played the DLC. It's certainly nothing special, but if you're looking to just play through a game in the Aliens world and blast Xenomorphs with pulse rifles I think it's fun enough and probably worth it at less than £20.

Keep in mind though that if you are playing offline, the teammate bots can do a job on the lower difficulties but you won't be able to play through on the higher ones as they will be too difficult with the AI.

Cheers for that dude, I might give it a chance.

If you've got PS+ then Fireteam Elite is one of the free games this month.

EDIT: Just seen you've already posted about this in the PS+ thread

[Preezy]

I see that Aliens: Fireteam Elite is on sale on the PS5 (£16.49 for the Standard + DLC edition) - anyone played it that would give it a recommend? I don't intend on playing it online or anything so would be strictly single player, I know that probably counts against it but I loves me some Aliens even if the gameplay is less than stellar

I enjoyed the base game well enough, haven't played the DLC. It's certainly nothing special, but if you're looking to just play through a game in the Aliens world and blast Xenomorphs with pulse rifles I think it's fun enough and probably worth it at less than £20.

Keep in mind though that if you are playing offline, the teammate bots can do a job on the lower difficulties but you won't be able to play through on the higher ones as they will be too difficult with the AI.

Cheers for that dude, I might give it a chance.

If you've got PS+ then Fireteam Elite is one of the free games this month.

EDIT: Just seen you've already posted about this in the PS+ thread

Yeah cheers for thinking of me dude