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Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:36 pm
by kerr9000
My daughter grabbed me Nagano Winter Olympics 98 cart only for n64 so I owe her £1 for it, makes me more happy than anything that she thinks about me enough to grab me a game while shes hanging with her friends :)

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:14 pm
by Gemini73
kerr9000 wrote:My daughter grabbed me Nagano Winter Olympics 98 cart only for n64 so I owe her £1 for it, makes me more happy than anything that she thinks about me enough to grab me a game while shes hanging with her friends :)


That's very sweet of her. :D

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:21 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Lagamorph wrote:Were there any N64 games released exclusively in the USA and never released in Europe?


Yes, there are dozens of games that were only released in the NTSC regions, and a good amount that only saw the light of day in the United States. Few major examples are Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2, Spider-Man(the PS1 version), WCW Backstage Assault and Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. They're all USA only - never Japan or Europe. Dr Mario 64 as well, weirdly.

USA Exclusive Games:

Dark Rift
Wheel of Fortune(famously savaged by N64 magazine)
Jeopardy!
Clayfighter 63 1/3rd: Sculptor's Cut (This was a Blockbuster only release, it's the rarest NTSC N64 game I think, a boxed copy will set you back a four figure sum)
Mike Piazza's Strike Zone
NFL Blitz
Fox Sports College Hoops '99
Nightmare Creatures
Golden Nugget 64 ( :lol: )
Battle Tanx
WCW: Nitro
California Speed
Triple Play 2000
Bottom of the Ninth
Ken Griffey Jr's Slugfest (Ken Griffey Jr's Major League Baseball was also never released in Europe or Japan, but it did get a PAL release in Australia)
NFL Blitz 2000
Madden NFL 2000
WCW Mayhem
NASCAR 2000
Namco Museum 64
NBA Courtside 2: Featuring Kobe Bryant
NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC
Sesame Street: Elmo's Letter Adventure
Sesame Street: Elmo's Number Journey
Space Invaders
Asteroids Hyper 64
Monopoly
Brunswick Circuit Pro Bowling
Bass Masters 2000
All-Star Baseball 2001
Battlezone: Rise of the Black Dogs
Indy Racing 2000
Army Men: Air Combat
NFL QB Club 2001
Madden NFL 2001
NFL Blitz 2001
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes 2
Stunt Racer 64
Cruis'n Exotica
Ms. Pac-Man Maze Madness
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol. 1
Spider-Man
WCW Backstage Assault
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Polaris SnoCross
Dr Mario 64
Madden NFL 2002
The Powerpuff Girls: Chemical X-Traction
Razor Freestyle Scooter
NFL Blitz Special Edition

Europe had four exclusive games:

Premier Manager 64
F-1 World Grand Prix 2
Taz Express
F-1 Racing Championship

Japan had loads but I'm not typing them all out :lol:

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:25 pm
by Lagamorph
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Were there any N64 games released exclusively in the USA and never released in Europe?


Yes, dozens. Few major examples are Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2, Spider-Man(the PS1 version), WCW Backstage Assault and Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. They're all USA only - never Japan or Europe. Dr Mario 64 as well, weirdly.

Interesting. Might have to look up a full list and see if it's worth investing in a cartridge adapter.

The local indie/retro store has at least one but it's £50, which seems a bit excessive, but I've no idea what they should go for.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:34 pm
by kerr9000
Lagamorph wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Were there any N64 games released exclusively in the USA and never released in Europe?


Yes, dozens. Few major examples are Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2, Spider-Man(the PS1 version), WCW Backstage Assault and Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. They're all USA only - never Japan or Europe. Dr Mario 64 as well, weirdly.

Interesting. Might have to look up a full list and see if it's worth investing in a cartridge adapter.

The local indie/retro store has at least one but it's £50, which seems a bit excessive, but I've no idea what they should go for.


I have one but its worth noting that if you use an adaptor you will then be running NTSC games in 50hz and it may cause issues with some of them.

I think it would be cheaper to grab something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-64-N64-Base-Unit-Console-Only-NTSC-USA-Region/223713618632?hash=item34165eeac8:g:VJYAAOSw-R9drEHA

If you grab a Jap or USA N64 they can essentially play each others games but you have to go inside and break a little tab off so that both areas games fit, they cant play Euro games though.... you only need the base console though as your UK TV wire, power rupply, pads , expansion pass etc will all work and can be moved from your PAL to Import unit as and when you need, and youll also be playing import games in there proper 60hz. I dont have many NTSC N64 games maybe like 10 but some titles are a lot cheaper to grab jap versions of etc

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:36 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Lagamorph wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:Were there any N64 games released exclusively in the USA and never released in Europe?


Yes, dozens. Few major examples are Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2, Spider-Man(the PS1 version), WCW Backstage Assault and Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine. They're all USA only - never Japan or Europe. Dr Mario 64 as well, weirdly.

Interesting. Might have to look up a full list and see if it's worth investing in a cartridge adapter.

The local indie/retro store has at least one but it's £50, which seems a bit excessive, but I've no idea what they should go for.


Here you go (as edited in above in case you miss it)

USA Exclusive Games:

Dark Rift
Wheel of Fortune(famously savaged by N64 magazine)
Jeopardy!
Clayfighter 63 1/3rd: Sculptor's Cut (This was a Blockbuster only release, it's the rarest NTSC N64 game I think, a boxed copy will set you back a four figure sum)
Mike Piazza's Strike Zone
NFL Blitz
Fox Sports College Hoops '99
Nightmare Creatures
Golden Nugget 64 ( :lol: )
Battle Tanx
WCW: Nitro
California Speed
Triple Play 2000
Bottom of the Ninth
Ken Griffey Jr's Slugfest (Ken Griffey Jr's Major League Baseball was also never released in Europe or Japan, but it did get a PAL release in Australia)
NFL Blitz 2000
Madden NFL 2000
WCW Mayhem
NASCAR 2000
Namco Museum 64
NBA Courtside 2: Featuring Kobe Bryant
NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC
Sesame Street: Elmo's Letter Adventure
Sesame Street: Elmo's Number Journey
Space Invaders
Asteroids Hyper 64
Monopoly
Brunswick Circuit Pro Bowling
Bass Masters 2000
All-Star Baseball 2001
Battlezone: Rise of the Black Dogs
Indy Racing 2000
Army Men: Air Combat
NFL QB Club 2001
Madden NFL 2001
NFL Blitz 2001
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes 2
Stunt Racer 64
Cruis'n Exotica
Ms. Pac-Man Maze Madness
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Vol. 1
Spider-Man
WCW Backstage Assault
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Polaris SnoCross
Dr Mario 64
Madden NFL 2002
The Powerpuff Girls: Chemical X-Traction
Razor Freestyle Scooter
NFL Blitz Special Edition

Europe had four exclusive games:

Premier Manager 64
F-1 World Grand Prix 2
Taz Express
F-1 Racing Championship

Japan had loads but I'm not typing them all out :lol:

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:25 pm
by Lagamorph
Cheers guys! It looks like a USA Imported N64 is actually cheaper than a converter anyway :lol:
Infact there's one listed here that's already been pre-modded for playing both US and Japanese games - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-N64 ... 3944713713

And I'll need to go through that list, thanks Cora!
I figured Japan would have a literal ton of exclusive games, but I'm a bit less interested in games I can't understand :slol:

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:34 pm
by kerr9000
Lagamorph wrote:Cheers guys! It looks like a USA Imported N64 is actually cheaper than a converter anyway :lol:
Infact there's one listed here that's already been pre-modded for playing both US and Japanese games - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nintendo-N64 ... 3944713713

And I'll need to go through that list, thanks Cora!
I figured Japan would have a literal ton of exclusive games, but I'm a bit less interested in games I can't understand :slol:


The mods basically breaking a few tiny bits of plasic off inside the cart slot, but if you can have it where someone has done it for you like this and theres no real added cost then id say go for it because even with little mods like that theres the chance you could slip with a tool and do some damage to the unit etc

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:10 pm
by Drumstick
Dr. Cora, have you completed any publisher sets yet?

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:32 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Drumstick wrote:Dr. Cora, have you completed any publisher sets yet?


Good question actually. Here's my current list, which isn't too far off being right:

3DO - 1/2
Acclaim - 14/19
Acclaim Sports - 6/10
Activision - 4/8
ASCII Entertainment - 0/1
ATLUS - 1/2
Capcom - 1/2
Crave - 2/5
EA Games - 1/1
EA Sports - 7/10
Electro Brain - 0/1
Electronic Arts - 3/6
Gremlin Interactive - 1/1 (Premier Manager 64)
GT Interactive - 3/3
Hasbro Interactive - 1/1
Hudson - 0/1
Human Entertainment - 2/2
Infogrames - 4/7
Interplay/Rockstar - 2/2
Kemco - 3/8
Koei - 1/1
Konami - 7/17
Lego Media - 0/1
LucasArts - 3/4
Midway - 13/28
Mindscape - 0/1
Natsume - 0/1
NewKidCo - 0/2
Nintendo - 27/43*
Ocean - 4/5
Paradigm - 1/1
Piko Interactive* - 0/1
Rare - 2/3*
Red Storm Entertainment - 1/1
Rockstar Entertainment - 0/1
SCi - 1/1
Southpeak - 1/2
SunSoft - 1/2
Take Two Interactive - 1/2
THQ - 7/14
Titus Interactive - 2/7
Ubisoft - 5/10
Video System - 1/2

So to answer your question - err, not yet. There are a couple of issues with the publisher format - Nintendo published a lot of Rare's games, they only published three themselves. They also published a lot of other people's guff - Bomberman 64, Command and Conquer 64, Waialae Country Club 64 among others. Piko Interactive's only published N64 game came out in April 2019, and I didn't back the kickstarter so will need to get that on eBay sadly.

Another interesting thing to look at is games owned by release year from 1997 to 2001.

1997 - 29/35
1998 - 42/64
1999 - 36/75
2000 - 20/48
2001 - 5/17

The numbers that I own should add up to 134 for both sets. There may be a difference of one or two overall owing to the existence of 40 winks and the Australian games which aren't always noted in PAL release lists.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:32 pm
by Corazon de Leon
Found a £10 voucher on my Amazon account, picked up Magical Tetris Challenge and Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey for the cost of delivery. Happy with that, and it means I'm getting closer to completing the puzzle genre on N64 - only missing Virtual Chess 64, Charlie Blast's Territory and Tetrisphere from the genre.

I had a thought about what I can do with the collection once I've got a decent proportion of games for the console - YouTube videos. My idea is to split the console's games into genres, and make video series' based on me playing the games, my thoughts and observations, a bit of history of the genre and how it evolved both prior to the N64 years and during the N64 years, how the games in the genre were received at the time and what they look like retrospectively, etc etc.

So far, I've got the following in my head at the moment and would love suggestions on how to structure these:

3D Platformers/Adventure games
FPS
Arcade Fighters (e.g. Killer Instinct Gold)
Sport based fighting (e.g. Knockout Kings)
Other fighting games (Rakuga Kids, GASP, Super Smash Bros)
Wrestling
Puzzlers
Football games
Golf games
Hockey games (there are LOADS of these)
Basketball games
Sport based racers (NASCAR, F1, Jeremy McGrath's Supercross etc)
Arcade racers (Carmageddon, Cruis'n, Rush, F-Zero X)
Kart Racers
Other (Pokemon Snap, Mario Party, etc)

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:50 pm
by kerr9000
Went in an Indy game shop after work today and got Adventures of lolo 2 for the NES cart only for £5. , I'd never heard of it but it said it was by Hal on the label so figured I'd give it a punt.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:05 am
by Drumstick
Cross posting from the Weekender thread:

Drumstick wrote:So this happened:

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And the answer to the obvious question...

A very reasonable (in comparison for what a near mint copy would normally go for) £108.

So for me, that's everything I want on the GC. I'll try and get a full collection picture sometime.

N64 collecting is on the back burner until the wife calms down a bit.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:05 am
by kerr9000
Drumstick wrote:Cross posting from the Weekender thread:

Drumstick wrote:So this happened:

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And the answer to the obvious question...

A very reasonable (in comparison for what a near mint copy would normally go for) £108.

So for me, that's everything I want on the GC. I'll try and get a full collection picture sometime.

N64 collecting is on the back burner until the wife calms down a bit.



Congratulations, its an amazing game, its my second fave fire emblem and maybe my fave cube game, hope you have loads of fun with it

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:43 pm
by kerr9000
I got a few bits today an American cartridge only copy of The Simpsons Bart's Nightmare for the SNES £5

Fifa 95 complete for the Megadrive £1
Fifa 97 complete for the Megadrive £1
Mega games 1 complete for the Megadrive £1

Kingdom hearts 2 for ps2 for 25p the discs good but the manual and cover have some water damage.

Final fantasy x2 disc only for ps2 for 25p

Monopoly party complete for Xbox for 50p

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:50 pm
by Corazon de Leon
That’s a good price for what it is because it’s in brilliant condition but it’s still absolutely made my eyes water. The top, boxed N64 games in good nick go for about that though.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:35 pm
by kerr9000
My daughter called me today to tell me I owe her a little bit of cash because shes been picking me up stuff again

Devil may cry 1, 2 and 3 for PS2 for 50p each complete
Devil may cry 4 in a steel case complete for ps3 for £1
uncharted 2 in a steel casecomplete for ps3 for £1
Heavenly Sword for ps3 complete for £1

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:11 am
by Dig Dug
Planning to buy an elgato game capture hd as my pc lacks the specs for the HD60.
Just wondering if anyone has ever tried recording retro games on one and if so how did it go? What converters did you use?

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:36 am
by Drumstick
Dig Dug wrote:Planning to buy an elgato game capture hd as my pc lacks the specs for the HD60.
Just wondering if anyone has ever tried recording retro games on one and if so how did it go? What converters did you use?

Devlin knows about Elgato.

Re: GRcade Retro Gaming Chat

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:36 pm
by Cheeky Devlin
Dig Dug wrote:Planning to buy an elgato game capture hd as my pc lacks the specs for the HD60.
Just wondering if anyone has ever tried recording retro games on one and if so how did it go? What converters did you use?

The version I use came with a couple of cables that let you use it on systems that output through Component or Composite cables.

I don't believe they sell that specific version anymore though and as far as I can tell every one after that took away the other AV Input, meaning you only have the HDMI input. In which case you would have to get a converter to change it to HDMI as well.

You can still get the model I have on Amazon, from third party sellers.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elgato-Game-Ca ... 641&sr=8-6

A bit of googling doesn't seem to reveal any alternatives to this version that don't involve getting converters.

EDIT: I will add that if you go with the Game Capture HD, while it will accept the signal for those systems don't expect them to look particularly good. Composite especially looks awful on anything other than a CRT. I also had some issues with my TV not accepting the low-res signal through the HDMI port and had to split it off before it hit the elgato so it would go in through the SCART socket that I had on that TV as well as into the Elgato. This assumes your TV has a SCART socket these days.

Simply put it's getting harder and harder to run old systems through modern TV without spending a lot of money for upscalers, converters and cables.

I'm genuinely starting to look at putting the cash together so I can get a framemeister.