Gillette - is this the best a man can get?

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PostGillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Hexx » Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:55 am

I couldn't find a specific thread this seemed to fit in - but this happened this week.



The reaction from "menists" has been something to behold.

Timely and bold social statement?
Exploitative Ccorpreteering?
A slanderous attack on all men. LET BOYS BE BOYS?!?!?!

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Prototype » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:01 pm

Do they talk about any of their products in this advert?

I used to treat people badly but now I don't because GilletteⓇ has taught me to be a good man.

EDIT: Probably more appropriate for the politics thread unless you want to discuss the benefits of 4 blade razors over 3?

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Preezy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:07 pm

Can someone explain the video and furore for those of us at work?

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Hexx » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:08 pm

Preezy wrote:Can someone explain the video and furore for those of us at work?


Gillette basically spends 2 minutes slamming ‘toxic masculinity’

‘Broflakes’ and other stereotypes lose their shite


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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Prototype » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:10 pm

Hexx wrote:
Preezy wrote:Can someone explain the video and furore for those of us at work?


Gillette basically spends 2 minutes slamming ‘toxic masculinity’


To the detriment of their future sales figures.

Clowns. :slol:

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Hexx » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:12 pm

I wouldn’t worry - most of them probably can’t grow facial hair

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by OrangeRKN » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:12 pm

Preezy wrote:Can someone explain the video and furore for those of us at work?


Two boys are fighting as a gang of BBQ men watch on, ignoring it as they think they should "let boys be boys". One man breaks ranks and pulls the top kid to the side.

"You need to learn to be a man, son," he says, handing the child a GiletteⓇ razor. A close up shows off all the great new technology Gilette has innovated into this shard of steel.

The boy nods in understanding, taking the offering. With grim determination he stands over his conquest, holding him still with one hand as he brings the razor down and across with the other.

GILETTE. THE BEST A MAN CAN GET appears emblazoned across the screen.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Moggy » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:15 pm

Menanists crying over a razor advert while simultaneously pretending that they are “manly”.

Snowflakes :lol:

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Prototype » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:20 pm

So far Hexx and Moggy are the only people to call people names. Have you even watched the GiletteⓇ advert.

It's time to do better men.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by KK » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:25 pm

I knew this commercial was coming a while ago, though I'm sure it had a different voice-over. UK-based ad agency put it together, though I can't remember who. Female directed, though again who escapes me. Anyhow it was a unanimous thumbs down from focus groups and market research. They didn't take a blind bit of notice (they never do; it may as well be an elaborate tax write-off).

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by NickSCFC » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:26 pm

Preezy wrote:Can someone explain the video and furore for those of us at work?


The video tells twats to stop being twats.

Twats are offended

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:31 pm

Shocking millions, I like it. It's still Gilette using a manufactured idea of manhood to sell razors, but at least that manufactured manhood strives for compassion rather than lantern jawlines and a sixpack.

And yes, the worst of twitter are out in a rage about it. I genuinely thought the below was from some alt-right sperglord before I looked at the profile image


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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Dig Dug » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:31 pm

Is there any truth to this youtube comment?
So just to clarify, the company (Procter and Gamble, Gillette's owner) pumping out this garbage:

- tests products on live animals
- exploits child labour (male and female) in developing countries
- sold toxic tampons to women (it's OK to kill them, just don't ask them out...)
- abused the female environmentalist who tried to expose them dumping toxic chemicals into a river
- kept working with Burma even as they actively suppressed democracy (including the then female democratically elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest)
- pollutes the environment with endocrine disruptors and dioxins
- uses palm oil (destroying the environment through deforestation and destruction of animal habitats)
- has released products to market prior to obtaining FDA approvals; and
- sold/sells cancer causing shampoos without appropriate labelling

The question better asked is this: Is Procter and Gamble really the best a man (or woman) can get?


The message of the ad is fine but if this stuff is true then Gillette can go strawberry float themselves either way.

EDIT: Google searches has so-far told me that Gillette still test on animals. The child labour I can't find much concrete on that. Not having much luck finding sources for the other claims.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by KK » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:34 pm

Didn't last year start off with some woman walking through a protest and pulled out a Pepsi, I don't think that went down very well either.

I don't know why companies feel the incessant need to do these things. Here's a radical idea: tell me why your shoes are any good and pay the people making them a decent wage.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by OrangeRKN » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:43 pm

Dig Dug wrote:Is there any truth to this youtube comment?

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The message of the ad is fine but if this stuff is true then Gillette can go strawberry float themselves either way.


Some truth, mostly par for the course stuff with multinational conglomerates, and that comment is pretty unbalanced. A very quick follow of wikipedia references finds that they stopped most animal testing in 1999 for example.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Prototype » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:45 pm

Dig Dug wrote:Is there any truth to this youtube comment?
So just to clarify, the company (Procter and Gamble, Gillette's owner) pumping out this garbage:

- tests products on live animals
- exploits child labour (male and female) in developing countries
- sold toxic tampons to women (it's OK to kill them, just don't ask them out...)
- abused the female environmentalist who tried to expose them dumping toxic chemicals into a river
- kept working with Burma even as they actively suppressed democracy (including the then female democratically elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest)
- pollutes the environment with endocrine disruptors and dioxins
- uses palm oil (destroying the environment through deforestation and destruction of animal habitats)
- has released products to market prior to obtaining FDA approvals; and
- sold/sells cancer causing shampoos without appropriate labelling

The question better asked is this: Is Procter and Gamble really the best a man (or woman) can get?


The message of the ad is fine but if this stuff is true then Gillette can go strawberry float themselves either way.

EDIT: Google searches has so-far told me that Gillette still test on animals. The child labour I can't find much concrete on that. Not having much luck finding sources for the other claims.


Who cares about any of that when men are still attempting to chat to women in public?

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:50 pm

Dig Dug wrote:Is there any truth to this youtube comment?
So just to clarify, the company (Procter and Gamble, Gillette's owner) pumping out this garbage:

- tests products on live animals
- exploits child labour (male and female) in developing countries
- sold toxic tampons to women (it's OK to kill them, just don't ask them out...)
- abused the female environmentalist who tried to expose them dumping toxic chemicals into a river
- kept working with Burma even as they actively suppressed democracy (including the then female democratically elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi under house arrest)
- pollutes the environment with endocrine disruptors and dioxins
- uses palm oil (destroying the environment through deforestation and destruction of animal habitats)
- has released products to market prior to obtaining FDA approvals; and
- sold/sells cancer causing shampoos without appropriate labelling

The question better asked is this: Is Procter and Gamble really the best a man (or woman) can get?


The message of the ad is fine but if this stuff is true then Gillette can go strawberry float themselves either way.

EDIT: Google searches has so-far told me that Gillette still test on animals. The child labour I can't find much concrete on that. Not having much luck finding sources for the other claims.



Corporations are bad. I mean, every corporation is bad. If you drill down and state that every company owned or funded by every corporation is bad then nothing means anything because everything is strawberry floated (which coincidentally, is my philosophy in a nutshell). That comment above though is whataboutism at its finest.

Prototype wrote:Who cares about any of that when men are still attempting to chat to women in public?


And I mean...I hope this a self-deprecating joke? I've credentials at misreading this gooseberry fool but yeah. I hope it's a joke.

Let's say it's a joke.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Parksey » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:52 pm

I mean, that's not what it's about, is it? Men attempting to chat to women in public.

I don't just mean the Gillette as either, I mean the whole movement from a section of society towards this sort of stance. It's not about "men attempting to chat to women in public" at all.

There's an argument to be made against the advert, but I don't think we need to be reactionary and reductive and say that men can't even talk to a woman nowadays. Besides, that part of the ad (i.e. the catcalling part, not the attempt to strike up a conversation with a woman, which I didn't see in the advert myself) is actually only about 5% of the entire thing. There's arguably more stuff about how men treat other men, but that's probably going to get lost among the furore and tremendously hurt feelings.

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by OrangeRKN » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:55 pm

These days, you talk to a woman, you get arrested and thrown in jail

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PostRe: Gillette - is this the best a man can get?
by Tafdolphin » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:55 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:These days, you talk to a woman, you get arrested and thrown in jail


Are you sure? Just for talking to a woman, you get arrested and thrown in jail? Are you...are you sure?

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