Tafdolphin wrote:The problem is not the presentation but the interpretation of said statement by those unwilling to listen.
Absolutely. This isn't helped by those who consider themselves part of a sensible centre-ground who will always criticise the actions and opinions of the left more heavily and readily than those of the right. Especially when they also convince themselves they are holding "both sides" to the same standards despite this rarely being true, nor realising (as an admittedly blunt generalisation) they naturally have much more in common socially with the right than the left.
This has an effect on the social discourse. Like how recently a new Congresswoman in America called Trump a mummy strawberry floater who they're going to impeach. This was met with outrage and much coverage. Steve King's comments regarding white nationalism and white supremacy were not quite.
A centre so much more easily swayed to an oppressive right (that upholds the centre's privileges) because of a minor 'uncivil' comment or action of a body on the left isn't really the centre.
Cutty & Taf I would listen to your podcast
Moggy wrote:
Prototype wrote:
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Prototype wrote: ...How can I hate women? My mother's one. (Brent.jpg)
Just seen this advert now so I'm late to the party. I liked it, well, the majority of it. Knowing gamer bros, right wing plebs and fedora-wearing misogynists will lose their sh*t over it is comforting.
On the nice little clip of dude telling a daughter she "is strong", I tell my daughter that girls are cleverer and better than boys all the time as I feel I have to do that to insulate her from things that may go on later in her life.
I had a 'discussion' about this with my mates sister, who's son, while playing with action figures told her she can't use them cos 'women can't be hero's' which made her very upset understandably. She blamed TV but I think it's parenting. My little one associates hero's with girls and boys, she loves Wonder Woman, Gamora, (from guardians of the galaxy), Mulan and many other strong female protagonists. I think it's just a matter of engaging with your son or daughter and informing them often.
Reading back in this thread, I agree with moggy, lets be honest lads, men are creepy bastards. I mean Taf is a paragon of virtue but he's not the norm.
Just this morning driving in I seen a girl with a massive erm...chest walking down the street and I heard myself saying out loud "f*cking hell". Now I wouldn't say that if she could hear me nor if other women could hear me but yeah, we creepy af.
Photek wrote:Just this morning driving in I seen a girl with a massive erm...chest walking down the street and I heard myself saying out loud "f*cking hell". Now I wouldn't say that if she could hear me nor if other women could hear me but yeah, we creepy af.
Unacceptable behaviour Photek. Have you not seen the advice given by Gillette?
Photek wrote:Reading back in this thread, I agree with moggy, lets be honest lads, men are creepy bastards. I mean Taf is a paragon of virtue but he's not the norm.
Just this morning driving in I seen a girl with a massive erm...chest walking down the street and I heard myself saying out loud "f*cking hell". Now I wouldn't say that if she could hear me nor if other women could hear me but yeah, we creepy af.
I am exactly the same. I can’t stop looking at girls I find attractive or thinking or muttering unacceptable comments.
Men are creepy, I bet even Taf thinks “check out the norks on that bit of stuff!” occasionally.
But I know not to be a dick and actually say those things out loud.
Personally I found the advert a little patronising coming from a company like Gillette and P&C who are well known for exceedingly dodgy business practices. Take one look at their corporate structure and you can see that they are as much to blame for "toxic masculinity" as the people they are aiming this advert at. I'm surprised at just how easily that people who support these causes seem to forget to look into the companies that are pushing these messages and reflect that back on them a little. That would represent real change.
It reminds me of the Carphone Warehouse sketch by Stewart Lee.