Gillette - is this the best a man can get?

It's very American and possibly quite patronising in places but there's absolutely nothing wrong with the message. More to the point, the absolutely bizarre outcry that's been happening against it on Twitter has actually justified its existence.

Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Moggy wrote:

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Nope, its time to make a stand. I'm not going to stop acting like a dick until Saudi Arabia sort out their human rights abuses. That'll learn 'em.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Nope, its time to make a stand. I'm not going to stop acting like a dick until Saudi Arabia sort out their human rights abuses. That'll learn 'em.

That’s a good point. I’m going out tonight to pinch the arse of some sexy bitches.

moggy wrote:but we are all creepy bastards.

Then how do we do better than we already are? You cannot eradicate dickheads from society.

Prototype wrote:I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

This is an extension of the Not All Men argument, commonly interjected into online conversations by women about men.

Before its meteoric rise as an object of mockery in the early parts of 2014, “not all men” had a past life as an object of frustration. For feminist bloggers it was a classic derail, a bad-faith argument used to shift the focus of a discussion instead of engaging with it.

http://time.com/79357/not-all-men-a-bri ... -argument/

The willful misunderstanding of generalised terminology ("men" here) to mean "each and every example falling under this classification" is used as a way of shifting focus. Conversations about the rise of toxic masculinity, rape culture and misogyny become conversations about how offended some men get when someone, anyone, dares attest there are negative aspects of our society's handle on the meaning of maleness.

At no point does the advert insist or even infer that every single man is evil and should be taught a lesson, but it is something easily retrofitted into the message by those with pre-existing insecurities. Although the negative reactions to the advert in here are pleasantly presented niceties compared to the vitriol online, they're still a little sad to see.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Nope, its time to make a stand. I'm not going to stop acting like a dick until Saudi Arabia sort out their human rights abuses. That'll learn 'em.

Again, you're working from the standpoint that all men "act like dicks" by default and only adverts from multinational companies like Gillette can teach us the error of our ways.

Which just isn't true.

Prototype wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Nope, its time to make a stand. I'm not going to stop acting like a dick until Saudi Arabia sort out their human rights abuses. That'll learn 'em.

Again, you're working from the standpoint that all men "act like dicks" by default and only adverts from multinational companies like Gillette can teach us the error of our ways.

Which just isn't true.

I don’t think anybody has come from that standpoint.

The simple rule is just don’t be a dick. And if a woman says you are acting like a creep, stop acting like a creep.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Prototype wrote:Agree with your top 2 paragraphs moggy.

I think the reason people are offended by it as it's yet another attack on the perception that all men are creeps by default.

I get more offended by the way women are treated in places like Saudi Arabia than I do about a women being called a girl for example, yes.

And racism absolutely offends me.

Men are creeps. Most of us manage to control ourselves but we are all creepy bastards.

It’s not an attack on men. It’s basic message is “BUY RAZORS!!!” with an added subtext of “don’t be a dick”. There’s nothing offensive there.

I’m glad you are more offended by female rights in Saudi, but it’s not an either/or choice. We can stop acting like dicks AND condemn Saudi Arabia at the same time.

Nope, its time to make a stand. I'm not going to stop acting like a dick until Saudi Arabia sort out their human rights abuses. That'll learn 'em.

Yeah! Do you know China produces so much more waste than I do - yet I'm the one that gets leaflets from the council through! I'm not going to bother sorting my recyling into the green/blue boxes until China sorts out it's environmental problems.That'll learn 'em.

Pleasantly presented niceties taf. Thanks :lol

I'm sorry it's sad for you to see taf but it's my opinion. I respect the fact yours differs for mine and that I'm clearly in the minority when compared to the rest of the contributors in this thread. The vitriol online is a consequence of men with a similar view point to mine being unable to express themselves coherently and thus, being described as bellends. And rightly so.

How can I hate women? My mother's one. (Brent.jpg)

Prototype wrote:

SugarDave wrote:Anyone who got their back up over this needs to get a strawberry floating grip.

So it's alright for Gillette to get their back up about an issue but no one else?

Gillette have their back up? They're just co-opting a progressive movement to hopefully see the same kind of financial gain as Nike did with their Kaepernick advert.

I agree with Moggy that the actual video has a bit too much of a wanky American vibe going on for my tastes, but people trying to frame it as some war on men is laughable, especially when these are undoubtedly the same people decrying supposed snowflakes at every other opportunity.

EDIT: Somehow missed that the thread had moved onto page 3, and it's pretty much moved beyond your initial reply already.

Tafdolphin wrote:every single man is evil and should be taught a lesson

Harsh but fair.

Karl wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:every single man is evil and should be taught a lesson

Harsh but fair.

Taf there hating on homosexual men and trans-men.

In effort to self regulate myself how are my views on a scale of 1-Cal?

Prototype wrote:In effort to self regulate myself how are my views on a scale of 1-Cal?

Oh honey, you try your best but you’re no Cal.

does he still post here?

He is blocked from using the Stuff subforum because his trolling caused too much drama, but he still posts in Games occasionally.

Prototype wrote::lol: does he still post here?

He's not allowed to post in Stuff anymore because he was too toxically masculine for us to handle.

twitter.com/paulsinha/status/1085207086856835072

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_C._Gillette