GR Decides - Tory Leadership

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Denster wrote:Just congratulate yourselves on not having to pick one of them.

I have no idea how the process works but is there no way to spoil your ballet here?

Of course or I could abstain but what would be the point?

I can see yours - vote for neither but I'm a Tory. I'm not going to lose the chance to vote. I'm just not a huge supporter of either candidate.

Who would be your preferred leader if you could choose any of the current Tory MPs?

The only person I can think of worse than Johnson is Rees-Mogg. Surely you wouldn't want him?

At the moment I kind of think that Hunt would do a better job at an election than Boris. I'm actually quite surprised how badly Boris has done at PR, also I would have thought he would relish the change to debate in public. Hunt's come across as a bit boring but competent choice, although judging on his roles in government I really don't like him. I'd probably vote Boris but that's mainly because I think he'd be bad for the Tories.

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Denster wrote:Just congratulate yourselves on not having to pick one of them.

I have no idea how the process works but is there no way to spoil your ballet here?

Of course or I could abstain but what would be the point?

I can see yours - vote for neither but I'm a Tory. I'm not going to lose the chance to vote. I'm just not a huge supporter of either candidate.

Who would be your preferred leader if you could choose any of the current Tory MPs?

The only person I can think of worse than Johnson is Rees-Mogg. Surely you wouldn't want him?

No. He would never go for it either.

I actually like Gove. I know that isn't a popular choice here so didn't want to say. Out of the candidates here.

In an ideal world I'd love Ruth Davidson to be leader but there's a lot of obstacles to that.

Lex-Man wrote:At the moment I kind of think that Hunt would do a better job at an election than Boris. I'm actually quite surprised how badly Boris has done at PR, also I would have thought he would relish the change to debate in public. Hunt's come across as a bit boring but competent choice, although judging on his roles in government I really don't like him. I'd probably vote Boris but that's mainly because I think he'd be bad for the Tories.

I think the public debate issue isnt as relevant now its down to party members.

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Denster wrote:Just congratulate yourselves on not having to pick one of them.

I have no idea how the process works but is there no way to spoil your ballet here?

Of course or I could abstain but what would be the point?

I can see yours - vote for neither but I'm a Tory. I'm not going to lose the chance to vote. I'm just not a huge supporter of either candidate.

Who would be your preferred leader if you could choose any of the current Tory MPs?

The only person I can think of worse than Johnson is Rees-Mogg. Surely you wouldn't want him?

No. He would never go for it either.

I actually like Gove. I know that isn't a popular choice here so didn't want to say. Out of the candidates here.

In an ideal world I'd love Ruth Davidson to be leader but there's a lot of obstacles to that.

Give it 10-15 years and most of those obstacles will be dead.

The main obstacle im referring to is that she isn't a member of Parliament. For me anyway. I don't think she would have won if she was this time around but I'd have loved to see how she came across and what support she got from her peers in the voting.

Rex Kramer wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Denster wrote:Just congratulate yourselves on not having to pick one of them.

I have no idea how the process works but is there no way to spoil your ballet here?

Of course or I could abstain but what would be the point?

I can see yours - vote for neither but I'm a Tory. I'm not going to lose the chance to vote. I'm just not a huge supporter of either candidate.

Who would be your preferred leader if you could choose any of the current Tory MPs?

The only person I can think of worse than Johnson is Rees-Mogg. Surely you wouldn't want him?

No. He would never go for it either.

I actually like Gove. I know that isn't a popular choice here so didn't want to say. Out of the candidates here.

In an ideal world I'd love Ruth Davidson to be leader but there's a lot of obstacles to that.

Give it 10-15 years and most of those obstacles will be dead.

In 10-15 years Ruth Davidson will be the Prime Minister of an independent Scotland.

Don't even joke about it.

Moggy wrote:

Rex Kramer wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Denster wrote:Just congratulate yourselves on not having to pick one of them.

I have no idea how the process works but is there no way to spoil your ballet here?

Of course or I could abstain but what would be the point?

I can see yours - vote for neither but I'm a Tory. I'm not going to lose the chance to vote. I'm just not a huge supporter of either candidate.

Who would be your preferred leader if you could choose any of the current Tory MPs?

The only person I can think of worse than Johnson is Rees-Mogg. Surely you wouldn't want him?

No. He would never go for it either.

I actually like Gove. I know that isn't a popular choice here so didn't want to say. Out of the candidates here.

In an ideal world I'd love Ruth Davidson to be leader but there's a lot of obstacles to that.

Give it 10-15 years and most of those obstacles will be dead.

In 10-15 years Ruth Davidson will be the Prime Minister of an independent Scotland.

Only if she jumps ship to a party with an actual chance in Scotland.

Denster wrote:

Lex-Man wrote:At the moment I kind of think that Hunt would do a better job at an election than Boris. I'm actually quite surprised how badly Boris has done at PR, also I would have thought he would relish the change to debate in public. Hunt's come across as a bit boring but competent choice, although judging on his roles in government I really don't like him. I'd probably vote Boris but that's mainly because I think he'd be bad for the Tories.

I think the public debate issue isnt as relevant now its down to party members.

It should be as at some point who ever wins will have to fight an election. If Johnson wins it might be a very quick turn around.

Denster wrote:Don't even joke about it.

The only joke was that Scotland would elect a Tory as leader. The Tory party members are happy for Scotland to leave as long as they get Brexit.

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:Don't even joke about it.

The only joke was that Scotland would elect a Tory as leader. The Tory party members are happy for Scotland to leave as long as they get Brexit.

The Tories could block a second Scottish ref to stop it although that probably wouldn't be very good for the Tories north of the boarder.

Ruth Davidson lost all of the respect I had for her dealing with the calls for the second referendum stuff. She just refused to even talk about how the Brexit result has changed anything. Then her response to most Tory members saying they don't mind Scotland leaving if they get Brexit was just to say "I'm sure they don't really mean that."

twitter.com/ricgalbraith/status/1143502452668452865

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the very best of British and the man deemed fit to lead us in these dark times.

Lex-Man wrote:

Moggy wrote:

Denster wrote:Don't even joke about it.

The only joke was that Scotland would elect a Tory as leader. The Tory party members are happy for Scotland to leave as long as they get Brexit.

The Tories could block a second Scottish ref to stop it although that probably wouldn't be very good for the Tories north of the boarder.

Ruth Davidson lost all of the respect I had for her dealing with the calls for the second referendum stuff. She just refused to even talk about how the Brexit result has changed anything. Then her response to most Tory members saying they don't mind Scotland leaving if they get Brexit was just to say "I'm sure they don't really mean that."

They have, I think, thirteen MPs here, which is a high for them since 1983. They routinely get, maybe 25% of the popular vote up here, so I doubt they'd lose too much sleep over denying a second referendum.

Rex Kramer wrote:

twitter.com/ricgalbraith/status/1143502452668452865

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the very best of British and the man deemed fit to lead us in these dark times.

As a character and personality, he's brilliant. He is undoubtedly thoroughly entertaining in the public eye, and as shown countless times as Mayor has an ability to be quite an uplifting figure when he wants to be, but you just can't vote for this as PM. It turns the position into a Ben Miller or Rowan Atkinson sitcom.

Donald Trump hates to look buffoonish (though he always inevitably does), whereas Boris revels in it. He'll quite happily use it as a distraction so as not to answer the question (as he attempted to do multiple times in today's LBC interview, and quite frankly backfired on him right at the end as because of his stupidity the interview continued on for another 5 minutes).

There's an article in the telegraph today. It's headline is 'Boris is our Trump candidate - choosing him is a risk but it's one we have to take.'

KK wrote:As a character and personality, he's brilliant.

Brilliant in the same way that stepping in dog gooseberry fool is brilliant?

Denster wrote:There's an article in the telegraph today. It's headline is 'Boris is our Trump candidate - choosing him is a risk but it's one we have to take.'

What is wrong with these people? How do they make it into the office each day without dying on our roads through sheer stupidity? If their brains are literally so inept that they can't compute Boris = bad, how do they survive roundabouts?

THE ONLY TRUE GAMER wrote:

Denster wrote:There's an article in the telegraph today. It's headline is 'Boris is our Trump candidate - choosing him is a risk but it's one we have to take.'

What is wrong with these people? How do they make it into the office each day without dying on our roads through sheer stupidity? If their brains are literally so inept that they can't compute Boris = bad, how do they survive roundabouts?

The Telegraph pay Johnson £275,000p.a., it’s not a shock that they support him.

Moggy wrote:

THE ONLY TRUE GAMER wrote:

Denster wrote:There's an article in the telegraph today. It's headline is 'Boris is our Trump candidate - choosing him is a risk but it's one we have to take.'

What is wrong with these people? How do they make it into the office each day without dying on our roads through sheer stupidity? If their brains are literally so inept that they can't compute Boris = bad, how do they survive roundabouts?

The Telegraph pay Johnson £275,000p.a., it’s not a shock that they support him.

Forcing him on to us as PM seems an extreme way to get him off the payroll.