GR Decides - Tory Leadership

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Who should be the new Tory leader?

Michael Gove
1
2%
Matt Hancock
3
7%
Mark Harper
0
No votes
Jeremy Hunt
6
13%
Sajid Javid
4
9%
Boris Johnson
10
22%
Andrea Leadsom
0
No votes
Esther McVey
1
2%
Dominic Raab
1
2%
Rory Stewart
20
43%
 
Total votes: 46
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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Lex-Man » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:25 am

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KK wrote:Boris still hasn’t committed to these TV debates. How utterly stupid and pointless will it look when the front runner and most likely winner isn’t even there. As for the channels that have banked on the 2 semi finalists going head-to-head, what are they going to do?


Other than his leadership bid launch he’s been very quietly avoiding the press and interviews. Obviously it’s part of a strategy to avoid him strawberry floating up and TV debates would risk that.


I thought he was doing the BBC one just not C4.

I honestly don't think there's anything no separate them by, I can't chose.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Monkey Man » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:25 pm

Leadership debate starting on Ch4 in 5 minutes.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by KK » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:43 pm

Raab dressed like he’s auditioning for the next Hitman movie.

Lots of blue on blue action between him and Stewart.

Gove with the line of the night though: ‘Corbyn is scared of me’

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Rex Kramer » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:04 pm

To be fair though, Gove's face is enough to put the fear of god in anyone. He looks like a puppet that's been brought to life with Satanism.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by KK » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:07 pm

BELIEVE IN THE BIN.

I liked how at various points people in the audience have laughed at Gove.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by KK » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:15 pm

Rory Stewart may not look like PM material whatsoever, but he’s spoken the most sense this evening. I’d put Hunt second. Javid has unfortunately looked rather weak.

Gove and Raab are just atrocious. Gove needs to stick to the Environment.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Corazon de Leon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:35 pm

Krishnan Guru-Murthy hasn't been a fantastic moderator to be completely fair, but all the candidates come across like slippery banana splits.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Rex Kramer » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:00 pm

Imagine being a fully paid up, card carrying member of the Tory party and all your hard earned cash goes towards supporting this bunch of utter mediocrity.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by KK » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:21 pm

I thought Rory Stewart came off well, was the only one to really answer the question recognising weaknesses, and were this a debate the public had any involvement in he would have shot right up the league tables, but I can’t see anywhere enough Tories voting for him, let alone reaching the last 2.

Biggest disappointment was Sajid Javid, who made almost no impression at all. Biggest moment involving him was the question about why Donald Trump wasn’t interested in meeting.

Hunt has a poor track record in the NHS and is hated by most people working in it, there’s an undercurrent of unsympathetic thuggishness to Raab that isn’t endearing, nobody was taking Gove seriously, and obviously Boris didn’t turn up.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Curls » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:43 pm

I despise our country right now, absolutely despise it.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Ecno » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:51 pm

KK wrote:Rory Stewart may not look like PM material whatsoever, but he’s spoken the most sense this evening. I’d put Hunt second. Javid has unfortunately looked rather weak.

Gove and Raab are just atrocious. Gove needs to stick to the Environment.


I was speaking to a contractor yesterday who was doing work on the replacement for CAP and he said that as much as he hates to admit it, Gove was a fairly good environment secretary.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Ironhide » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:07 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:Krishnan Guru-Murthy hasn't been a fantastic moderator to be completely fair, but all the candidates come across like slippery banana splits.


Because they are.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Moggy » Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:11 pm

Ecno wrote:
KK wrote:Rory Stewart may not look like PM material whatsoever, but he’s spoken the most sense this evening. I’d put Hunt second. Javid has unfortunately looked rather weak.

Gove and Raab are just atrocious. Gove needs to stick to the Environment.


I was speaking to a contractor yesterday who was doing work on the replacement for CAP and he said that as much as he hates to admit it, Gove was a fairly good environment secretary.


Piss poor Education Secretary though.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Rex Kramer » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:55 am

So who do we lose today? I think Raab is done and maybe one of Javid or Gove. Stewart seems to be getting more support after the debate.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Squinty » Tue Jun 18, 2019 7:52 am

Curls wrote:I despise our country right now, absolutely despise it.


Yup. I really don't like what the United Kingdom is becoming.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Vermilion » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:04 am

Rory Stewart seems popular here, though i'd personally prefer Rory the Tiger.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Moggy » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:26 am

Vermilion wrote:Rory Stewart seems popular here, though i'd personally prefer Rory the Tiger.


He’s not popular, he’s just the least worst option.

It’s like a poll of Hitler, Stalin, Mao and the bloke that stole one of your chips. The chip thief is a banana split, but at least he is a Brit and not a stinking German/Russian/Chinese.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by KK » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:21 pm

Amazing how Boris (and a few of the newspapers today) are shitting themselves over Rory Stewart, and therefore now want him gone.

Here’s what The Sun has to say today, specifically targeting Rory Stewart:

TORY MPs voting for Rory Stewart today are GUILTY of the same self-indulgence as the nitwits who wrecked Labour by giving Corbyn his undeserved chance in 2015.

The difference being that unless Boris implodes, Stewart won’t win when members have their say. All he might do is deprive the party and country of a more credible challenger.

Jeremy Hunt, maybe. Or Sajid Javid, who rightly says: “Rory is spending too much time appealing to Labour voters, not the Conservative membership.”

Stewart is the candidate for Lib Dem or Labour Remoaners. For supercilious Westminster bubble inhabitants who love to declare Brexit “undeliverable” and the choice of fools. Who believe only they are intellectually equipped to grasp its complexities.

They recognise Stewart, from his ­pitying smiles and exasperated head-shaking, as one of theirs.

Would they ever vote for his party? Er, no.

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by satriales » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:32 pm

I hope Rory Stewart at least gets through this round. He's the only one who isn't bum-licking Boris Johnson in the hope of a cabinet job. Need him to say it how it is in the BBC debate tonight.

Instead, Boris will probably use his extra votes to ensure Rory is knocked out today..

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PostRe: GR Decides - Tory Leadership
by Rex Kramer » Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:35 pm

If they want a Tory party in 10 years time then Stewart is someone they have to seriously consider. Problem is, they may not make it 5 years unless they kowtow to the ERG. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.


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